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Geek Culture / What most schools don't teach

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Chris Tate
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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 09:32


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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 12:31
Yeah, but of course they don't talk about all of the WTFs that occur when writing code, the very reason why this exists.

It's true, anyone can code, but not everyone has the dedication to stick to a single project for more than a week.

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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 13:26 Edited at: 29th Aug 2013 13:28
If I wasn't already interested in programming, I could imagine this video might inspire me to start learning. I have never felt that way about any campaign video before, think about that horrendous "Science: it's a girl thing" for example. They really hit the nail on the head; apart from the part about how much fresh fruit and comfy chairs to expect, lol.

Quote: "Yeah, but of course they don't talk about all of the WTFs that occur when writing code"

What? Did you make that comment just to slip in a link to that site? I'm not looking at it right now.



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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 13:32
Quote: "What? Did you make that comment just to slip in a link to that site? I'm not looking at it right now."


No, my point is that not everyone can code cleanly (I'm probably included in that group). While typing that, it made me think of the site. It's like saying everyone can hold a guitar and pluck the strings, but not everyone can play the guitar well.

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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 13:46
Very odd video. At first, it looks inspiring for those who probably want to learn to code. But then I just see "hey, indie-bedroom small devs, look at our cool office! and you can't afford such, haha! you suck!"

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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 13:53 Edited at: 29th Aug 2013 13:54
@Comet — That's true, as with anything that requires brain power, but I don't think we are anywhere near approaching critical mass on coders just yet.

Quote: "But then I just see "hey, indie-bedroom small devs, look at our cool office! and you can't afford such, haha! you suck!""

Yeah, I think that part let it down. Why try to entice people to programming through free food and dry cleaning?



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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 20:07
Well like maths, science and english; teaching it is what reduces the WTFs; and most surely teaching it well.

10-20 years from now computers will advance and be used as part of day to day living in all sorts of lands; it gets ever more crucial to develop the skills necessary to play a part in the media home and workforce-automation era we will be approaching.

It will be quite a difficult time for those who haven't yet learned a digital language to compete in a digital world; unless you are in some sort of engineering, construction or health related profession, the unemployment rate is increasing; it's increasing in many countries.

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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 20:33 Edited at: 29th Aug 2013 21:03
Quote: "It will be quite a difficult time for those who haven't yet learned a digital language to compete in a digital world; unless you are in some sort of engineering, construction or health related profession, the unemployment rate is increasing; it's increasing in many countries."

I perceive a technical literacy revolution on the horizon. Automation has put many people out of work and will continue to do so as technology advances. This means wages will drop and the majority will get poorer, and as a result they will not be able to afford the luxuries they enjoyed before.

So what are the options? Opt-out of using this technology; steal it; or mend and make do.
If a poor person's kettle breaks, they are more inclined to try and fix it themselves to save money. They don't have the luxury of throwing money at a new one; and it certainly isn't worth paying an electrician to fix a kettle!

I think the same will happen/is happening with software. It's less and less viable to opt-out of computing in developed and developing economies. Luckily, low-end computers are fairly inexpensive, but software is still a major cost — one could purchase 57 Raspberry Pis for the cost of one copy of Adobe Photoshop! — and so more people are abandoning expensive proprietary software in favour of open source and software libre.

Once you start using Open-Source/Free-Software, you are soon exposed to the world of the hackers; the people who are fixing bugs and implementing new plug-ins. It doesn't take much to realise that if other people are making and modifying this software for their needs then you could do the same. If you need your software to perform a specific task that your current version is incapable of, and you cannot afford to pay for software that can, then you are more likely to look into ways of implementing the features yourself.

I think we are headed for a world split into two categories: consumers and hackers. You could say this is already the case, but as long as the internet remains free and open, the hacker community will grow rapidly through the sharing of knowledge and ideas. Of course this is terrible for the economy: corporations want you to throw your kettle in landfill and buy a new one, not be resourceful and responsible.



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Posted: 29th Aug 2013 20:37 Edited at: 29th Aug 2013 20:40
Quote: ""hey, indie-bedroom small devs, look at our cool office! and you can't afford such, haha! you suck!""


I assume they wanted to have that in to show kids "look! Dont you wanna work there? I bet you do!! " but it also put me off. I wouldnt want to work in an office where people play games or roll around with a skateboard. It seems a little decadent and childish to have this attitude as an adult at the job.

I dont want to seem anhedonic here, I'm just a little bit tired of all these 30 something year old or people in their late 20's wearing "ironic" T-Shirts and being in the mindset of teenagers.

Quote: "It will be quite a difficult time for those who haven't yet learned a digital language to compete in a digital world; unless you are in some sort of engineering, construction or health related profession, the unemployment rate is increasing; it's increasing in many countries."


Honestly, I dont think that the people are simply going to tolerate it that easy if it turns out that way. If machines are doing most of our non-technical jobs in the future, we do need some kind of new economic system that does not require everyone to work to live. That way we would have an utopian future where everyone can focus on more scientific/intellectual or plain fun things with machines doing the "dirty work". If we neglect to adress that and have machines take over most "grunt" work... we'll probably have a revolution building up or at least pit after pit of unemployment slums.



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