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Phaelax
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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 04:06 Edited at: 31st Oct 2013 04:19
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During gameplay, temp gets up to as high as 70C. I don't know about gfx temps, but that doesn't sound unreasonable. Idle, it sits around 36c.

Playing COD4, game froze for a few seconds, displaying a hue of rainbow colors. This happened about 3 times in the past hour. Occasionally, my monitor kinda goes all wonky for a second then back to normal. That's been going on for months and I thought my monitor was going bad since I've had it 6 years now. But maybe not.

I have a 2GB GTX 560 I bought last summer, so it's barely a year old. I keep my drivers up to date, so that can't be an issue if this has been going on for months now. (assuming the monitor issue is related)

I just did a driver update, new one just release this past week it appears. Oddly, the gpu temp jumped up from 40 to 55 during the install. Likely unrelated, but I don't know.

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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 06:00
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Call up the manufacturer it's probably got a warranty on it.

If it's not under warranty, remove and clean the heatsink, reapply the heatsink with some decent thermal paste. Make sure the heatsink fan is functioning properly.

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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 10:02
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The artefacts sound pretty bad, but I don't think its because of heat. Most cars work fine as long as they are below 85C I think, they also have a temperature limit set up which the card will stabelise at when under load which is probably 70C in your case...

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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 10:13
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Make sure your graphics card driver fan is actually revving to 100%.

I used to have a GTS 250 which was completely fine until I installed a driver update, then it had problems like you're having right now.

I discovered that my fan speed for my graphics card was never adjusting to load, and was always idling at 30%. There is a program (which I have forgotten the name of) that allowed me to set the fan speed to 100% and after that point I stopped having problems.

To this day I am sort of convinced it was sabotage on Nvidia's end, as a ploy to have people with older graphics update. It happened after a driver update! So you never know.

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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 14:33
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Quote: "There is a program (which I have forgotten the name of) that allowed me to set the fan speed to 100% and after that point I stopped having problems."



http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm



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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 15:56 Edited at: 31st Oct 2013 19:24
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I remembered what it was called:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RivaTuner

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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 17:33
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I never knew Riva Tuner had an actual website... always got mine from Guru3D...

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Posted: 31st Oct 2013 23:08
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Maybe I was using this too much as an excuse to look at new gfx cards, cause the thought of a warranty never crossed my mind.

I actually ordered this GTX 660 OC this morning. Which for $170 isn't bad at all. It should also support the new ShadowPlay that's recently peaked my interest.

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I just noticed a silly move by NVidia, my GTX 480 dwarfs many 600 series cards and features the same architecture, yet they want to sell more cards so no longer bothered with users of such beastly cards... sad that... I might just go all out Intel, not only do I get a new CPU, but I get a decent GPU as well, looking at that XEON with a built in GPU...
[Xeon - Socket 1150]

Just another option

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How do you figure your 480 uses the same architecture? It doesn't support all the newest technologies, requires a lot more power thus running much hotter. The 600 uses the Kepler, the 480 uses Fermi.

Are you comparing it to entry-level 600 cards? Because a fair comparison would be to put it with it's real successor, the 680, which kinda kills the 480 with much less power consumption.

The 480 is still a good card, but it's outdated and won't support the latest techs. And integrated gpu? I hope that was sarcasm. I have the HD4000 on my CPU, so if someone is interested in a benchmark comparison I'll do one.

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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 02:39
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Ah I stand corrected, cheers, forgot about Keplar...

Have you played games like BF3 on that yet? My measly HD2000 can run it if I remember, at good frame rates, provided I can cope with the extreme low detail lol

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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 07:20 Edited at: 1st Nov 2013 07:28
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Quote: "can cope with the extreme low detail"

I won't play games in low detail. 'nuf said!

I play cod4 at 1920x1200 at high settings. But the card I just ordered gives a free copy of Assassin's Creed IV, so I might play that. Until a new Thief game is released, I don't see any newer titles that I'm willing to buy.

I like Kepler because it seems to be a lot more power efficient. My build is all about lower power consumption with higher efficiency. Despite the fact I use an i7-3770k, the ivy bridge has much lower power consumption over the equivalent sandy bridge cpu (77w vs 95w). Oddly, the latest Haswell architecture uses 84w on the 4770k, kind of a step in the wrong direction.


Btw, since when did Newegg get rid of their free 3 day shipping? Now it's 4-7 days if you want free delivery.

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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 16:39
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Totally Agree, I keep my system below 100W/Hour as much as possible, it casually runs around 45-65W/Hour

Good to see other power conscious users on here

I am keen to get onto Haswell across all my devices in my home/office...

Anybody got a GTX 770? Any recommendations?

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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 16:52
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Quote: " I keep my system below 100W/Hour as much as possible"


Watts are joules per second, Watts per hour doesn't make any sense - unless you're looking for the rate of change of joules or something.


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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 17:09
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Quote: "Watts per hour doesn't make any sense"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt_hour

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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 17:12
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Nope. That's Kilowatts multiplied by hours, an is a unit of energy.


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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 17:29 Edited at: 1st Nov 2013 17:30
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Yeah I missed out the K...

EDIT

Well I mean the active current...

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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 21:26
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Quote: "Anybody got a GTX 770? Any recommendations?"


I got an ASUS GTX 770 and it works really well. I can max out any game I want without the GPU bottlenecking it. Its really quiet even under load and the only time I can hear it is when running shader mods on minecraft and ENBs on skyrim. I have no idea about power consumption though....

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Posted: 1st Nov 2013 22:05
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Thank you The Zoq2 I can see the power spec on the NVidia website

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2013 19:24
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The 770 is about twice the price of the 660. A bit too much to spend for someone who just moved into their first house this week.

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So I was just comparing the specs of my current 560 to the 660 I ordered. My 560 has a 256-bit memory GDDR5 while the newer 660 is only 192-bit GDDR5. However, Nvidia's page claims the 560's memory bandwidth is only 128GB/s to 660's 144GB/s.

The 660 has a slower clock speed and requires just slightly less power (10w difference), but the texture fill rate is nearly twice as high over the 560. I guess it's one of those cases where less is more? The power of more efficient technology I suppose.

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Posted: 4th Nov 2013 15:23
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With Graphics cards you cant really look at the clock speed between cards, for example the GTX titan has a base clock of 837 MHz which is pretty low compared to other cards yet it outperforms most of them. You just have to look at actual performance instead of frequency

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Quote: "With Graphics cards you cant really look at the clock speed between cards"


With the exception of cards that use the same GPU, of course.


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Yep, forgot to mention that

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Well I got my new card today and installed. Played around with ShadowPlay. It's a neat concept, and while playing the COD there was no performance hit while recording. The downside is that it only appears to record your video at 1920x1080 at 60fps. So stuff is scaled down (well down in my case). The video quality is great and 5min of 1080 video less than 2GB. But playback is choppy unless you lock the game's frame rates at 60 also.

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Quote: " 1920x1080 at 60fps"


The horror.


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There is a downside to that, such as people playing games at a lower resolution will have their video upscaled.

It was just released this past week, so there's not a lot of detailed info yet. I tried to use it to record my AppGameKit project but it wouldn't do anything, so I don't know what the game requirements are for it to register.

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