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Geek Culture / I'm doing my national service in the Greek army/some questions about what to do with my projects

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Zotoaster
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Posted: 8th Nov 2013 10:56 Edited at: 8th Nov 2013 11:03
Howdy folks. Haven't been posting much around here recently but I've been lurking. I've pretty much stopped using TGC products because I've been moving on to other things, not necessarily game related, but I won't forget that TGC gave me a start in programming so I still frequent here to hear the news.

I recently moved to Greece to stay with my dad after things started to go downhill in Scotland (reminds me, I should change my location in my profile). Having been born here, I am legally required to do 9 months national service in the Greek army, starting on the 13th of this month. I could just go back to the UK and avoid it altogether, but I feel it's too soon to return, so I am pretty much forced to go. I believe it's worth it, despite what you hear about a lot on the news regarding this country, things aren't actually so bad, at least, not in Corfu, the island I'm staying on. I've discovered that as much as politics and economics can screw with the world, people will always find the time to go out for a coffee with their friends and enjoy the weather. Incidentally, it's early November and the sky is completely clear, it's still like summer.

I had taken a break from programming to explore other interests. At first I started getting involved in boat-y things. I was crewing on a small tourist boat which was a lot of fun, but didn't pay much. I then started cleaning charter yachts which paid fairly substantially. I've also been getting into motorcycle culture. My dad owns a well-known bike parts/repair shop and he has a reputation on the island as a biker, and is part of a local club that meets every Monday and Thursday, and often goes on road trips through the mainland. I got my first bike, a small Honda CY50, to practice on, and I've taken to it like a duck to water. My hope is that I can make enough month by month in the army to buy a Honda CBR125 that my dad has in his shop.

That's my rant about life in Greece and going to the army. Now my other rant.

As work started to dry up for the winter, I got back into programming and revisited some of my old projects. Some of you may know I have an interest in programming language development and GUI development, so I decided I'd do something about those, and I believe I have a couple of well-made systems.

Here is an example of a Unity-inspired game editor I've been working on using my GUI and programming language.



Notice the 'ControllerComponent' on the bottom-right. This is the script for that, in my language:



Now, I'm fairly proud of all this work. But some things are starting to occur to me. I'm solving problems that nobody needs solved. The world has enough GUI-systems and programming languages. I've only been developing them because I find it interesting. My talents are good enough to find a good job in the industry, but unfortunately, with every job I've had, I've been extremely bored solving problems that people need solving, but that I find too boring. This dilemma that given me a bit of an existential crisis, to be frank. Do I continue doing that I find interesting at the risk of not making a living wage out of it, or do I sacrifice a bit of my passion in exchange for a bit more wealth and comfort? On a related note, what shall I do with these projects I've been working on? I don't think anybody wants or needs them, and as I grow older, I feel the need to take care of my responsibilities before indulging in wasting time on things I happen to find interesting.

Part of the reason I'm going to the army is to have the time to think about these questions, but I'd be interested in hearing everyone else's take on this. Thanks!

"everyone forgets a semi-colon sometimes." - Phaelax
Michael P
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Posted: 10th Nov 2013 13:13 Edited at: 10th Nov 2013 13:14
Hmm I know how you feel.

If you are solving other people's problems you do find some pretty dull development work that needs doing, but there should still be some interesting stuff e.g. building systems from scratch, solving some challenging problem.

It depends what you want out of life. The balance between happiness and money is a tough one, it seems quite rare to be able to have both.

My advice is try to find a coding job for a company which is doing cool things which you find interesting. Then you can get the best of both worlds

[edit] What to do with your projects - open source them, and document it - maybe someone will pick it up and carry on your work

Van B
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Posted: 11th Nov 2013 15:39
To be completely honest - I think 9 months in the army will make good things happen. I mean, there are a lot of companies out there working with simulations, both military and public sector, like Raytheon for example. I think it'd be a great industry to be involved in, and 9 months experience in the army along with your programming knowledge and mechanics on top of that, heck that's the direction I'd be pointing

Thing is, no matter what the job entails, having another nations army on your CV will say more about your character than anything else.

I am the one who knocks...
KeithC
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Posted: 11th Nov 2013 19:48
What VanB said.

-Keith

Quik
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Posted: 11th Nov 2013 20:26
I absolutly see how being in the army looks good on a CV - can't say that i'm a big fan of it myself (thank god sweden has that as being completly optional)



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Zotoaster
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Posted: 12th Nov 2013 19:49
This reminds me of Steve Jobs' speech at Stanford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA. You don't really know what they mean at the time, but looking back, you find obvious ways to connect the dots. You can't see them so clearly looking forward, but looking back, it's obvious. I really don't know what I'll get from the Greek army, and from my understanding the Greek army has a different culture to most armies, but I will definitely learn something, and whatever it is, I'll find some way to make use of it in the future. As you said, VanB, it'll at least look nice on my CV.

Honestly I'm starting to quite look forward to it. I do believe I'm ready for another adventure!

"everyone forgets a semi-colon sometimes." - Phaelax
Dimis
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Posted: 16th Nov 2013 01:21
Well Zotoaster, having spent 18 months in the Greek army myself, I can tell you that, most likely, it will not be such an interesting adventure. Of course it is all related to were you are going to serve your 9 months. But the chances are (I would say 80-90%) that you will spend that time cleaning up, maintaining equipment, guarding some outposts(probably without real ammo , sorry to say that), generally doing stuff that will not be very interesting or adventurous. Unless you join some kind of special forces unit, were you will have a better "military" experience, you will have a chance to do that, if you will be selected. But anyway try to make the best out of that time, you could make some good friends there too, if you serve along with people close to your age. If things get boring, remember time passes faster than you think.
But I wish you to have an interesting experience there. Good luck.

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