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AppGameKit Classic Chat / Is AGK to HTML5 port possible?

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BraindeaD
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Posted: 18th Nov 2013 15:32
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Hi all,
Are there any plans to make a port of AppGameKit to HTML5/javascript? Otherwise it would be possible to do some "homebrew" port of tier 1 AppGameKit to javascript or is this crazy?

Thanks!
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Ancient Lady
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Posted: 18th Nov 2013 16:15
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There had been an attempt to do something along those lines with an on-line version of AppGameKit (and I forget what it was called). But it did not do well (I forget why) and was dropped.

Trying to do your own port of Tier 1 to javascript is probably not practical. You would need to create the entire interface between javascript/html and the byte code interpreter. Interfacing Javascript with C++ is not for the faint of heart.

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BraindeaD
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Posted: 18th Nov 2013 16:58
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Hi all,
The name of the online/html5/web AppGameKit version was FreeEngine... and yes, sadly it was dropped some months ago.

I'm not thinking doing a byc interpreter in javascript but convert, line by line, the agk tier 1 code to javascript code. Loops, IFs and variable definition could be easy, the problem will be convert (rewrite) all the AppGameKit functions (sprites, fonts, sounds and so) in javascript. Yes, it could be a hell.
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Markus
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Posted: 18th Nov 2013 17:04
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@BraindeaD
monkey have a html5 target but it cost 100$,
its also for making games.
http://www.monkeycoder.co.nz/

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BraindeaD
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Posted: 18th Nov 2013 17:17
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Thanks for the info, Markus.
I do not like Monkey language. I tried it before buying AppGameKit and now I'm trying the demo again, making a little game to test the performance of html5 (the demo generates html5 output), I think I would just use Monkey to html5. For the rest of the targets, I prefer AGK.
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Markus
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Posted: 18th Nov 2013 17:45
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he he,i am sure you will like monkey more then html+javascript
but you need some months to understand this special kind of language.

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Daniel TGC
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Posted: 19th Nov 2013 11:13
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www.freedomengine.com it's still running just not being developed. HTML5 has sandboxing issues which means the traditional method of saving permanent files to the users hard drive such as save games is a tricky concept. It really required a whole database structure which doesn't really exist in AppGameKit yet and thus freedom engine didn't have access to it either.

It's a shame I really loved the product.
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Arbrakan
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Posted: 19th Nov 2013 16:28 Edited at: 22nd Nov 2013 11:35
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What about HTML5 Web Storage ?

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Posted: 19th Nov 2013 19:19 Edited at: 19th Nov 2013 19:19
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Yes, HTML5 has a variety of local storage capabilities that make it easy to store and retrieve data locally (outside of cookies). Along with the simple web storage API, which many Web apps use, it also supports local SQL databases that can be generated on-the-fly and require no server interaction. So, it's actually pretty painless these days to support local saving and storing of data.

The biggest limitation of Freedom Engine, IMHO, is that it was powered by WebGL instead of native HTML5 canvas operations. That made porting from AppGameKit substantially easier for TGC, but WebGL still had very limited use across browsers and often would be more sluggish than native canvas alternatives. This is why the majority of HTML game frameworks are built around native canvas, with only a few also offering WebGL support for machines that can support it. WebGL support has come a long ways since the dawn of Freedom Engine, however.
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bjadams
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I bet we will see a FreedomEngine kickstarter sometime next year
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Alien Menace
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Posted: 28th Nov 2013 18:58
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Freedom Engine was an interesting idea but I ended up despising it because it took a lot of crucial development time away from AGK.

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