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Phaelax
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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 02:23
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Doing a clean install on my Asus laptop, and was looking up to see what Instant On utility did. That's when I found this little commercial.



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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 11:17
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Well played haha. One more reason to love ASUS.

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 18:05
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... I want one.

Seriously, starts THAT fast? Is that resuming from sleep mode, or booting in general?

Either way, cool!


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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 18:10
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My MacBook resumes from sleep faster.


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Phaelax
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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 18:16
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Quote: "Seriously, starts THAT fast? Is that resuming from sleep mode, or booting in general?"


Turning on from sleep mode or hibernate is instant. I rarely turn my laptop off, I just close the lid. And sometimes I've left it sit like that for more than a week. Open the lid and I'm already at the login screen to resume my session. That's what the Instant On feature is, sleep/hibernate.

I just timed myself turning on the laptop from a cold start. Including the time to login and brought to the desktop took 20 seconds.

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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 18:18
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Quote: "That's what the Instant On feature is, sleep/hibernate."


I was wondering that. I did make a post here about it yesterday but it seems to have been lost in transit.
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Mobiius
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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 19:29
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I'm sure Apple will sue. They like suing people. Lol


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 20:02
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Quote: "My MacBook resumes from sleep faster."


I hope you're right, because I really want a MacBook for my next laptop. Although I want the iPad Mini first because I want to develop for iOS.


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Phaelax
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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 20:12
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Quote: "My MacBook resumes from sleep faster."

I don't see how it possibly could. Mine resumes as fast as I can open the lid.

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Posted: 24th Jan 2014 23:20 Edited at: 24th Jan 2014 23:20
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Quote: "Mine resumes as fast as I can open the lid."
My Lenovo is the same; the Windows 8 (gotta replace that with 7 sometime) log in screen lights up the instant the screen is open, and it's fully responsive then too.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2014 03:14
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Quote: "I don't see how it possibly could."


In that video you see the screen blink on after the lid has been opened, but my MacBook is the same as your laptop, as soon as the lid opens.


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Posted: 25th Jan 2014 03:43
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I guess from a hardware and software perspective, I don't quite see why any ol laptop can't power up from a standby in a second or less; I mean AFAIK, the processor just has to be clocked up, a few parts turned on, and that's it. And of course, no problem beginning execution of programs in the time it takes for the HDD to spin up, if one is present.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2014 10:43 Edited at: 25th Jan 2014 10:46
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Sleep ain't really turning off, it's just a low-power state with some components off. Now, iirc, the RAM remains powered and therefore retains state. I think the CPU state is also preserved. Anyway, point is, as DBD said, all machines should power on instantly from sleep. Every PC I have owned has. My newest laptop is no faster than my old Cellery box. All instant. Hibernate is a different matter since states are dumped to hdd (hiberfile.sys, iirc) so a slow hdd would bottleneck the best components. An ssd, well, nuff said.

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TinyCore Linux: 5 - 8 seconds on my Asus Travelmate
Antix Linux: 15 seconds on my Asus Travelmate
Win7: Guestimate of about 30 - 40 seconds on my Acer eMachines

*Installed software obviously affects these numbers, as does boot medium.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2014 19:52
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In sleep mode, the ram does indeed retain power, otherwise it'd lose everything. In hibernation, the data from memory I believe is stored on the harddrive and reloaded after it's woken up.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2014 20:33
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Quote: "In sleep mode, the ram does indeed retain power, otherwise it'd lose everything. In hibernation, the data from memory I believe is stored on the harddrive and reloaded after it's woken up."


Yep that is exactly how it works. Hybernation is slower but saves on that tiny bit of power and allows the the computer to be unplugged and then still restore.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2014 20:35
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If we ever see universal memory on a large scale we can probably do away with boot times altogether. That would be awesome. Can't see it'll happen any time soon though.
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Posted: 25th Jan 2014 23:53
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Sounds awesome. With my luck there'll be a breakthrough the day I can afford a decent-sized ssd.

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Phaelax
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Posted: 26th Jan 2014 06:49
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I just put an SSD in my laptop when I found this commercial. (hence the fresh install) I should've timed the original boot up versus the new ssd. But as far as I can tell, it seems to be a noticeable speed boost. And I think my desktop boots even quicker with its SSD.

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