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BatVink
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Posted: 14th Oct 2014 23:51 Edited at: 29th Oct 2014 16:18
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*** Received entries are listed here ***

*** WIN one of three Acer Iconia Tab 8 devices ***
16 GB Quad Core with 2GB RAM, running Android Kit Kat 4.4.2



PLUS up to 10 prizes of $50.00

...and of course you get bragging rights..."Yeah, my demo is on Steam...STEAM!"

You only have until the end of October 2014 to get creative and submit your winning entry.

What do we want? We're ready to showcase AppGameKit V2 to the world through the Steam Store. We need up to ten demos of what can be achieved with the latest version of AGK.

We don't need highly complex games and apps. These demos should be easily picked up by beginners and understood so that in no time at all they can be experiencing the great things AppGameKit V2 can do. Here's some pointers to get you started:

Sensors - they're already a great feature before you get started on the code. What can you do to showcase them?
Render to Image - it's simple to do, but how can you incorporate it into an awesome demo?
Shaders - well, the sky is the limit,let your imagination run wild.

Use any media you like, as long as you have the full rights to distribute it. You are responsible for the copyright of your assets.

Remember - make your creations impressive, but keep them simple. Absolute beginners will be learning from your code. Make sure all of the source code is well documented with comment lines.

Submission details will follow shortly.

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What if we only have version 108?

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Quote: "What if we only have version 108?"


+1


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Sounds good for Ched and that cardboard vr he's got going

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Quote: "What if we only have version 108?"


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Quote: "We're ready to showcase AppGameKit V2"


EDIT: I could be wrong, it might be worth an official response but I imagine it might be possible to submit something that is a good demonstration of what is possible in both versions on reflection. Not trying to be 'elitist' or anything, just it's the reason they are doing the competition.
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Quote: "EDIT: I could be wrong, it might be worth an official response but I imagine it might be possible to submit something that is a good demonstration of what is possible in both versions on reflection."


Well yeah we saw that I can't speak for VanB, but I was asking (plus-one-ing) because I would have thought it would be fine to use 108, since AFAIK you can do absolutely everything in V2 that you can do in 108.

Quote: "Not trying to be 'elitist' or anything"


Certainly not, you're just pointing out what should be a really obvious answer to our question


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Quote: "Remember - make your creations impressive, but keep them simple. Absolute beginners will be learning from your code. Make sure all of the source code is well documented with comment lines."


Do you want this tier 1 only?

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I need to check with Rick as he's the one giving out over £750 of prizes. But in the meantime as time is of the essence, my informal answer is this:

You may submit a V108 demo, but bear in mind that if you have access to V2 then you should try to use the new features. The code must also be syntactically compatible with V2, for example you couldn't use any of the new commands as user-defined function names. The demos will be tested and judged in V2 (maybe you can get a V2 owner to test your demo)

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Quote: "Do you want this tier 1 only?"


This competition lends itself to Tier one because the emphasis is on simplicity for beginners. On Steam, the target audience is people immersed in the gaming world and starting to think they could make something themselves.

A Tier 2 project could win, but remember you are putting yourself at a disadvantage in the simplicity criteria.

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Makes sense, thanks BatVink.

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Quote: "The code must also be syntactically compatible with V2, for example you couldn't use any of the new commands as user-defined function names. The demos will be tested and judged in V2"


Ah, so you intend to compile them yourself.

Quote: "(maybe you can get a V2 owner to test your demo)"


I was thinking that. Then there'd be no issues.

Quote: "Makes sense, thanks BatVink."


Agreed


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Quote: "Ah, so you intend to compile them yourself."


Yes, bear in mind these will be included in the demo package with the source code, for beginners to learn from. They must be able to compile them in V2, which is what they will be bundled with.

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Quote: "AFAIK you can do absolutely everything in V2 that you can do in 108"

Not really, there are a few examples such as render to image given above. Some of the new commands allow for some interesting possibilities. Still trying to decide what I might actually have time to do... not much I think in 2 weeks. I have some other projects screaming to be done.
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Quote: "Yes, bear in mind these will be included in the demo package with the source code, for beginners to learn from."


OH I didn't actually read the first post *massive face-desk*

Quote: "Not really, there are a few examples such as render to image given above. Some of the new commands allow for some interesting possibilities. Still trying to decide what I might actually have time to do... not much I think in 2 weeks. I have some other projects screaming to be done."


Re-read my sentence


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Quote: "Still trying to decide what I might actually have time to do... not much I think in 2 weeks"


If it takes you more than 2 or 3 evenings, then you've probably gone for something more complicated than you need to.

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If I can manage 2 or 3 evenings I might have a go
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So might I!

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Wow! I am in!

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Can I submit my VR into this compo?

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You guys are so confusing with your identical stock TGC avatars

Quote: "Can I submit my VR into this compo?"


I hope so, that'd be an awesome entry!


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Great minds think alike

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Quote: "Can I submit my VR into this compo?"


You can submit anything that is simple enough for beginners to understand.

Personally, I think that headset looks really hard to construct
(to clarify...joke!)

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this sounds like a good way for me to showcase my 3d plugin... i think i can do a quick dig dug clone in 2.5d or a bomberman type clone.... yup!

im in!

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I think I am going to take a look and see if I can't make something. A small demo sounds like fun

Also great to hear that you are getting serious about marketing AppGameKit now.

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Well how small are we talking about?

I have a demo that could be considered a very small game. 800 lines. I could probably halve the count but it would be a lot less impressive. It uses about a dozen or so different fundamental AppGameKit features. Physics, audio, input, simple 3d effect, particles, sprites, memblocks. Everything's pretty well laid out but not perfectly clean. It's very fun to hack away at though. There's a ton of variables that can be tweaked for lots of fun.

The latest version:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mh2vkv1vh42rc4s/space%20adventure.zip?dl=0


I've created a cutdown version here that I'm hoping is more appropriate for what you're going for:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oje97d2wn5zfbvg/space%20adventure%20cutdown.zip?dl=0

I'll release the code v2 tested (if I can find somebody) once the submission details are out.

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I have confirmation that V108 is fine too, subject to the details I posted above.

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Ah, the joy of things on my phone reacting to the sensors. Finally figured out what sensor commands to use for my project The rest is all about typing the code.

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Had a day off and I am about 75% done. This is so cool that I am going to put it on Google Play later. This will probably entertain most people for about 5 min

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Work complete!

Where do I send it?

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There's no official submission method yet. If you want to make sure it's received as soon as possible, email it to me at the address in my post. I'll mail you back to let you know it's received.

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How do you want the entries packaged? Do you want everything zipped together? Do you want the apk files too.

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Everything zipped up together is good. If you have an APK, that saves time for judging too

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To bad that AGK2 doesn't read the light sensor on my Android tab. Joy of the hardware fragmentation i guess
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As far as the judging criteria goes, are these going to be judged on line count?

If so, what would be a good line count?

Also, can we split our code up into multiple source files or would prefer everything be in the main.agc (I assume one source file is easier for beginners)?

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Quote: "As far as the judging criteria goes, are these going to be judged on line count?"


The judging will be based on how good a demonstration of AppGameKit the code is, and how easy it is to learn from. You could do something spectacular in 10 lines of code that doesn't need much explanation. Equally you could write 3,000 lines of code but be a very good teacher of coding techniques and provide excellent structure and comments that are simple to follow.

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*** ENTRIES RECEIVED *** (but not tested)

If you are not on the list but have sent your entry (to the registered email address at the bottom of my posts) then you need to contact me, and arrange to send it again.

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Just been too busy. Will look over the code and add some more remarks.

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Hello BatVink!

I have tried to send you a zip.file with my demo, but I got a failure message, that the server for batvink@gmail.com doesn't allow zip-files, altough I send the mail to your gamecreators mail address.
I have sent you now a link to my amazon cloud for downloading the zip file. Did you get it? Are there other possibilities to send the demo to you?

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Sigtrygg, thanks for responding on the Forum. I found your email in my spam folder. I have successfully downloaded Pumpkins_AGK_V2.zip from the Amazon cloud.

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Hi BatVink

You mention an apk, so is the expectation these demos/games are primarily for Android devices? or are Windows demos/game equally acceptable (I am guessing yes)?

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I'm hopeful to still get something short and sweet created and submitted in the next couple days. It has been a very busy month but I'll try!
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Hey Steve, did you get the email with my entry?

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The entries are being forwarded to my Gmail address, which rejects Zip files. You can get around this by renaming the file to _zip.

E.g MyGame.zip -> MyGame._zip

Quote: "You mention an apk, so is the expectation these demos/games are primarily for Android devices? or are Windows demos/game equally acceptable (I am guessing yes)?"


Yes, anything that is a good demo of AGKs abilities is acceptable.

Quote: "Hey Steve, did you get the email with my entry?"

Yes, received

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The list of entries received is being maintained in this post here.

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I have sent my entry into the Acer Iconia competition.

It is called Baws and you have to collect the balls in cups, It really is much more fun than it sounds.

Thanks to TGC for another fab contest.

I have an Idea for another entry, and I will see if I can do it before the deadline.

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Hi Steve, I just sent you an email containing my entry.
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BatVink:
I have sent you my project. I used the ._zip method. I hope you get it. I forgot to mention in the email that all you really need is the main file. I didn't use any media.

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I have 6 competition mails to check, I'll update the list this evening to confirm what I have received..

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BatVink - Can we have a few of days extra time, please?????? It would be nice to have the weekend!!!

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I'd like to say yes, but unfortunately this one is on the tightest of schedules. Rick needs to organise the winning entries into the Steam AppGameKit package.

The absolute cutoff point is Midday (GMT), Saturday. For anyone outside of Europe, be aware that we are no longer in British Summertime. The time can be found here

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