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DarkBASIC Discussion / were did you learn the code PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!

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evil stuff
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were did you learn it book, web page, person, fish, radioactive mutation, etc. TELL ME NOW
hey do you have a person you want to annoy go to my web page (DO NOT GO ON IF YOU HAVE DIAL-UP! NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DO!)[href://am.freeweb.ws/am.html]

may the code be with you
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Jeku
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Posted: 15th Dec 2003 03:06
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The same places anyone learns anything. Most of us pick up little bits here and there from the Internet and from these forums. There's a book out there on DarkBasic but I haven't read it.

- JeKu

http://www.automatongames.com/
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indi
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north carolina this time, I thought it was the guy from last week but he was on the other side of the states at california university.


heres some tips.

[*] read the documented manual and try to remember the command names.
[*] read the code snippets board and pull apart the snippets.
[*] read the 20 liner challenges and pull them apart so you know how they work.
[*] make a folder on your computer called DBP_tests and make mini tests in this folder on how to acheive things or save mini snippets you feel will help you later on.
[*] Ask questions to help you get past a problem peice of code.
[*] Set yourself some goals like im going to learn one new command every day. In one week you will have 7 new commands under your belt, and in a month 30 or so.
[*] Relax, stressing out does nothing for concentration, have a laugh, cut back on the sugar and caffeine and remember to sleep at night instead of staying up all night while trying to code. Being tired is like driving drunk and you wont get to your full potential.
[*] Start to listen in maths class, I wish I paid more attention that cartooning my teacher burning at the stake still I get paid as a graphic artist now but I still wish I had more maths skills
[*] Ask those nagging questions but compile a list of questions before you spam the boards with a million posts. Just compile them all into one big post and if you type it out neatly enough eg: [q1] how do i blah then people can respond easier by saying to answer [q1] etc..
[*] Find a buddy who might be a few steps ahead of you to explain some things, get a messenger client like yahoo or aim or msn
[*] Buy a notepad and a grid pad, they really help when trying to work out problems
[*] Maths is very important, did I mention that?
[*] Write down ideas no matter how stupid then try to work out what you can make happen now and what "seems" beyond your current skills
[*] Learn a new method each week or day, eg instead of using a similar peice of code to acheive the same thing each time then learn how to do it another way. Ask yourself how much more effecient or faster it is and question everything regarding its purpose.
[*] perhaps invest in the book that the darkbasic company has helped to sponsor if your new to programming, I hear its a neat book with a good range of tricks to get started.
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Phaelax
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Self taught starting with qbasic back in 8th grade. Later I learned Pascal in highschool, along with some html. I taught myself a little javascript on the side during the same time. After pascal, I was taught C++ in school. Then more C++ in college using VC++. Right now at college I'm studying java. We're suppose to start covering multi-threading sometime in february.
I've done a lot of researching online and with books to learn additional things. I'd feel limited if I only knew what school taught me. DB is a good language to start with. It'll be easy to grasp the concepts of programming, while giving you some fancy results in a short period of time. When I first started programming, games were still in DOS. What I did in 5minutes back then, isn't anything compared to what eye-candy I can do with DB in 5minutes.
I'm saying basically what indi is saying. That our knowledge has come from all different kinds of resources. If you learn something useful, then it really doesn't matter where it comes from.
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Hamish McHaggis
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Posted: 15th Dec 2003 18:36
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I don't actually remember getting any good at coding, I just picked it up and found it fun really. I thought of different problems and tried to code them, maybe I didn't understand things at first or did them not quite right, but I picked it up and perfected it in the end.

TIP: Use the help files, even if they are a bit crap, and use the code snippets board and the code base, v. useful.

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

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thinkdigital
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I learned how to use DB by starting with simple text programs and working up to 3d worlds. How? The DB Help Files. They're very useful. I keep them open when programming, and then play around, fixing problems as I go along. Also, many people set a clear goal for a program, or enter a game competition. Then they write their first real game using any kind of help resource they can muster, and learn how to use DB from programming that game.

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waffle
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went to school and learned basic at the same time as fortran.
But that was when a bootstap was an actual papertape or keypunch
and they still used 7 1/2 floppies.

Picked up ASM next for use on my own imsai 8080, and RCA 1802 before
I could afford a C64. Then went back to basic until Prolog came out.
Really loved prolog. I still think its the coolest language made. Too bad borland discontinued support and dropped it when windows was invented. Started learning C++ then. Self Taught.

My theory on programming is thus:
All computers simply do what they are told (except maybe prolog and object C) and the only dif is the the commands used and the syntax. Learning your first language is the hardest part. After you have tinkered with more than 5, they all start to look allike.

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Nataku
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If you want a book that really helps you learn Darkbasic's basic commands, I recommend "Intro to Darkbasic Programming". You can find it at amazon.com

"Where ever you go, may lady luck be with you."
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Renegade
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Quote: "If you want a book that really helps you learn Darkbasic's basic commands, I recommend "Intro to Darkbasic Programming". You can find it at amazon.com"


Don't you mean the book "Beginner's Guide to DarkBASIC Game Programming"?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592000096/qid=1071768222/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-6077392-1779121?v=glance&s=books

BTW
Did anyone used that book? and if so do you recommend it?
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JoelJ
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i hear that thats really an intro to programming, its not really the greatest for learning DB, but to program, the Binary Moon totorial is REALLY good. it tells you EXACTLY what it is doing, and shows you everything.

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I have the begginers guild to db it's gust not enough. I'm not writing much because I had something like the flew recently but I got the shot

may the code be with you
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Mark3D
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Ive been teaching myself mostly by reading the manual that can with it and also looking at the codes from the examples given. Then I came accoss this forum!! Any question you have, these guys can answer!! And if they cant answer now, then try again later.

Nature gave man 2 ends. One to think with, the other to sit on. Mans' sucess depends on which end he uses most!!
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Play the tutorials, then check out the source code. If you can visualise the result, the code will make more sense.

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Best method to learn: F1 in DBC.

Just take some code and go through it, pushing F1 like a psycho.

What a life saver, you don't even have go through all the commands.

By far, the best feature.

P.S: Once you get addicted to F1, u'll never quit! I still use it, it's almost impossible to memorize all of those commands.

It's been good 3 years with DBC now

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