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DarkBASIC Discussion / Can a noob use DB?

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WiseMan
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 04:28 Edited at: 5th Feb 2004 04:29
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Hello guys!
I'm completely new on this kind of 3d Render and Game Making

Can a noob like me that dont no how to do nothing (but i can learn)use Dark Basic?

Or it needs very study? Cause i'm not in the university yet, and i dont know nothing of programming

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Wiseman
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Douglass
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if your good with technology and can follow tutorials, then db should be very easy. Actually most of the people on the boards are in their early teens so you shouldnt have a problem.


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indi
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your going to love it once you fathom some simple commands.
your going to hate it like any other language if you dont have a strong maths background but its easy to learn.

Ive never come across a language that allows you to write 3d with such ease.

check out this mini example of moving a cube around with the arrowkeys, If you can half understand whats going on them consult the manual for the ones that might not be so obvious.






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AluminumPork
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Well that's no way to encourage him. What was up with that comment?

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BearCDPOLD
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Yeah dude, you gotta put a "just kidding" or smiley in there to show you're doing sarcasm, or if you seriously think that DB is the hardest thing in the world, then.....I dunno, download 3d Gamemaker or something.

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Toilet Freak
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if your over 6 years old it should be possible.

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Phaelax
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 11:59
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Quote: "Can a noob use DB?"


That's a question I've been wondering for quite some time now.

If you have the desire to learn programming, then it should be possible.

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Travis
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id say yes but its always advisable to start with a more clcik and create programing ..program, then u can learn the basic pricibles without having ot learn a language or whatever, and when ur new its always nice to be able to make a pretty good game in a day or so, nice to see instant results
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Don Malone
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I disagree Travis. I don't think using Click and Create Programs set good examples when learning programming. Most click and create programs don't prepare you properly to learn program flow and Dark Basic can be simple enough to learn that following the proper tutorials, like Binary Moons Classic Tutorial, teachs the basics that someone need to get started.

And the answer is yes. Any new user can pick up and learn Dark Basic if they are willing to use the online help, scan the manual and browse and ask questions on the forums. It is important to make an effort to learn on your own before coming here and asking how to do something because while you will almost always find someone willing to help and always willing to give advice; you can learn more by just reading the previous posts just like you would a manual because so much of the questions of Dark Basic have been discussed before. Then ask a question that helps define what you have found.

If you are unsure, just invest in the DarkBasic Classic from Amazon at a reduced price to learn the basics without a major cash outlay and when you feel more comfortable then purchase DarkBasic Pro.

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WiseMan
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Thx Guys ^^

U really knew how to cheer me up,

now i'm going to do an RPG game, what do you think?

The Story is already in my mind, cause i used before (and still uses)a program called Rpg Maker

I think i can make good games now with DB

THx

Wiseman
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Turoid
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no no no, dont start with a RPG! a RPG is very complicated. Just start simple, like pong. And then try to make a little FPS or something.

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Jopie Dopie is right. An RPG is really difficult to begin with. And if I were you I wouldn't start with a game at all. Until you finished the tutorials for it. So if you want to do a 3D game, first do the tutorials. Do you want to do a 2D game, then first do the 2D tutorials. It's even better to do every tutorial though... because 2D commands can help you in your 3D game and the other way around to.

And when you finished the tutorials, then start with a simple game and work you way up .

Succes,

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DARKGuy
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Jopie Dopie is right, I programmed before with DIV Games Studio and I only did a complete game without following tutorials in a month!, and it's only a 2D martian-killer game, that I could have done in a week or so reading tutorials...he's right, read tutorials!!!!!!!!. The game making world isn't easy, but we're doing our best to prove it wrong, the game making business is fun! of course you'll never do an RPG in a week or so...you need time, to find / create the 3d models..programming...so start simple, little and you'll make great games!

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WiseMan
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one more doubt that I ever had:

Do 3d models is difficult????

Thx

Wiseman
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Phaelax
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Posted: 5th Feb 2004 22:21
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For some, creating your own models is a pain in the butt.

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BearCDPOLD
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I agree!
The best thing to do is download some free modellers, and demo versions of the ones that cost money and try it out. If you don't know how then you can probably find a friend who can do at least something halfway decent.
We were doing shooters in Blitz2d(cough, hack, choking, dying, dead) that had graphics styles like the old Eye of the Beholder games. We had coding down pat, but we were thinking about graphics. One day this friend of mine calls me up and says "I have created beauty." I go over to his place and there was that brick hallway effect that we had in mind, and he wasn't even a good pen-on-paper artist.

Try it out, get one or two team members and something good might happen.

good luck,
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yer, start small(major thing here, don't go for broke yet), play around in 2d for a few days and slowly move to 3d...

modelling 3d models is prolly even harder then programming for some people, but for some people it's just natural... For me, once I got into modelling I didn't go back to programming>>

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I learned modeling in 3d before i discovered db. But you can download some models from the internet (or steal some from the examples, lol ) and then try to make something very simple. Just something easy like a cube that moves around or a plane that is flying around. Then, slowly try out new commands. Once you understand all the 3d commands (and a bit of maths of course), free yourself and build crazy stuff I did it that way, a lot of guys did, so you can do it too! GO FOR IT M8!!!

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WiseMan
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Thx, guys, i started with modelling today ^^, i'm using lightwave 7.0, but i will change it maybe tomorrow

Now that my RPG game is postponed, i will begin with a 2d game, called................

Galaga X

it will be a very simple game, like any other galaga, it is just to begin writing in DB,

What do u think?

Thx

Wiseman

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Hmm... I would start way simpler than that. Anywhere from Pong, to, uhh, I don't know, Pong

I put up a fully commented pong game in the codebase, take a look at it, it should help you.

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