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Please tell me the differences, and why dark basic is better? Right now i leaning toward 3Drad... Convince me why DarkBASIC is better. Do you know the pros and cons of each one?

I smell a lock....

Why don't you just convince yourself which is better? DBC has a trial version, Download it and see if you like it. This is the best way to base your decision.

If you choose DB then write some fantastic games, post them here, and convince us that you made the right decision.

So, besides down-loading the trials, I would suggest looking at the code syntax and find which one suits you best. You can find plenty of snippets and demo's from the main page.

I can tell you that the support on the forums here is second to none. Especially, when people follow the simple rules when posting. The last comment I can leave you with is, if you are looking at DBC, make sure you take a look at Dark Edit, it's a free downloadable IDE that replaces DBC's original IDE. It's windows based and overall is a better coding interface. Perhaps you may also like to download the DBpro trial. I think it's well worth the investment.

What ever you choose, have fun coding and good luck.

Sincerely,
~Zenassem

Hi Sealegs
3Drad is extremly limited in as much as it does not use DirectX9.x
where DBPro does, with DBPro you have to do everthing in code.

In 3Drad there is a certain amount of "You dont need to program" about it, but it soon becomes obvious that to get what you want out of it you really do.

3Drads future after the current version 5.2 is in doubt there may be no more future development.

As has been said earlier get the trial copies of these programs and just try them.

BTW I also own a 3Drad network license, so I'm not trying to bash 3Drad.Its relatively good at what it does but once again is quite limited.

As a former 3D RAD user I can tell exactly why Dark Basic is better than 3D RAD the developers here actually took the time to make sure that you can actually develop any type of game using a BASIC language. 3DRAD really is a click together with a kind of very badly explained language tacked onto it, plus it has the infamous alpha clipping bug and plenty of other bugs besides

I was using 3D RAD for 3 years I have brains up on the board there under my other nickname "Der Vampyr Engel" and I have a straffing tank brain plus a an ai and player aircraft plus two mobile factory brains on there but I stopped with it because I think the developers really just want to be worshipped by the customers and they have not done the neccesary work to make RAD a lot better

For a start, the aircraft brain I mangaed to make thier could not hold a candle to the one I have done with Dark Basic Classic I got quite a bit of help on here and now I have an aircraft which can use a H.O.T.A.S setup as well as joystick and keyboard or simply keyboard and mouse. The brain on there can't even use the Joy U controls properly, I have also, with the help and I an ever thankful to shawn of the 3D Wraith space series , joystick hat controls where I can turn the camera left and right and up and down just like a professional game , the only thing I haven't quite worked out yet is how to be able to make the camera in the 3rd person turn around and look at the players plane /tank e.t.c. IN 3d rad , despite it being easier to get a camera view up and having mulitple camera's it is inpossible without using a DLL to get that type of control.

It took me the best part of a year to modify the helicopter resource for both the player and a.i so that they can pitch up wards and downwards as wel as turn left and right , I did it but it was no thanks to the poorly explained manual and the attitude of the developers and staff and customers there, on here it hasn't even taken six months although I haven't done and A.I enemy plane and I have something 1000 times more professional that anything on 3D RAD

I would suggest to try Dark Basic Enhanced or Dark Basic Pro or Conitec a6 , the Torque engine or Cipher but it you are relative beginner Dark Basic Classic or Dark Basic Pro rather than deal with the false promise 3D RAD is yes it has great idea's for Rapid Appilcation Development but the people who run it are idiots and treat their customers like crap, yes especially Mr Edelmann who I think is simply a con artist and a liar and has a lot to do with why 3D RAD's development is so pitfully poor.

To be blunt, 3D RAD is great for very simple 3D games,especially racing games and very simple 1st person shooter games but that is all that it is good for, which is a shame, for if it was developed properly it would have been a stunning engine and be capable of so much more, but extremely badly explained language, which hasn't really be developed at all properly, the lack of updates the lack of joystick support, the ridiculous Xelements which can't hold brains so making RAD useless for R.T.S games, unlike what is advertised on the RAD website and the control freakery of the con artist Lenoard Edelmann who didn't even code the engine but was there when the script language was developed and who refuses to actually do a decent tutorial on it I could go on and on and I deeply regret even wasting time with those idiots for personal and professional reasons it is not really worth doing anything much with it apart from using it for racing and 1st person shoter games.

The latest news? oh yes Version 6 isn't coming out till 2005 by which time all previous and new RAD customers had better have C prorgamming books, yes C programming books because the whole thing is supposed to be porting to C, not C++, C and from what I can tell there will be no virtual editor either so no more placing objects as you could have done. Quite frankly I have no idea how new people to programing are going to code as C is virtually in disuse since C++ came along and C isn't that easy a language to use, especially for a beginner,
The brains, within a 1 years time will be only good for version 5.2 so I pity anyone starting out with that .

Also mr lying rat Lenoard Edelmann has made out some company 3impact that does the "Monster Truck Stunts" driving game is taking over , what lies, I think basically it is his company and he is just talking crap, he is full of it plus we know that he works in a ver small house team, OK I am not against people who work fron their own home. I am against idiots who try at tell a whole load of lies to cover the products inadequadices



I think quite frankly you would be better of using Dark Basic Classic Enhanced because at least you will get help from somewhere if you don't know anything and if you are really ambitous, it is very possible to get a commercial quality game , just go to [href]www.starwraith.com[/href] and check out the demos on there, plus, I think it has been reviewed in PC Format, I don't even think any 3D RAD game has been reviewd in any major PC magazine at all. but it is up to you which one you think is the best , Sealegs

I would love to make a racing game so I willl also try and find out ho it is done in DBC

I once tried 3Drad, and I felt retarded. Thats why I use DarkBASIC, because it will let you do a million things 3Drad won't. I won't go into details because those guys above seem to have said some of it, and I'm too lazy anyways. But trust me, 3Drad is nothing compared to DB.