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Dave J
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Posted: 31st Aug 2004 17:59 Edited at: 31st Aug 2004 18:02
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The Penny Arcade Expo (PAX) was held 2 days ago, they were running several tournaments of various games (some hadn't even come out) and one of the groups that entered were called the 'Frag Dolls' (pictured below). As if them entering weren't odd enough in itself, but the lasses managed to win both the Halo 2 and Rainbow 6: Black Arrow tournaments. You can read about it on Bungie's Website.



Now this would be cool if they were just casual gamers that naturally kicked ass but what I believe has happened (and this has been confirmed by members of the group) is that Ubisoft have hired them to play the games (online and obviously at expo's like PAX) to "break the stereotype of a typical female gamer" and I presume draw more females into gaming, which would be awesome because as we all know, there's next to none out there. Unfortunately there's a lot of controversy of whether it's ethically right to do something like that, I personally don't have a problem with it, but a particular thread on the Penny Arcade forum shows a bit of anger from your average gamer: http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=74772 - The Frag Dolls reply several times throughout the post (they're names always end with 'FD' in case you're wondering who they are).

Now I'm just interested to hear other people's thoughts on this, mainly, do you think it will work? Will more of the opposite sex start playing games simply because the FD exist? I have my doubts, I think the problem stems from deeper down, females simply don't find games as fun as we do and it's not really a 'social' thing that drives them away from this sort of entertainment. You never know though. Also, I wonder how much they're being paid...

Oh, and check out the girls' blog at: http://fragdolls.blogspot.com/


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So which one's you

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I'll let them drive my Warthog any time...

Anyway, getting back to the original question - I doubt they will last that long, so it doesn't really matter.


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I think tons of girls love games, but mostly of the RPG type and not FPS. Personally, if they're as good as ppl claim, I wouldn't mind taking them down in a little UT tournament. A shame to blow so many of em away too, they're kinda cute.

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There was this female pro-gamer around a while back, when Q3 was first released - she kicked ass too. I think it's the differences in playing styles, like they probably play really well in a team, whereas males tend to wander off and try to be a hero. Good luck to them, although they'll probably not hang around looking like April Lasagne for too long .


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Quote: "A shame to blow so many of em away too, they're kinda cute."


Oh, i'd play nice so they would blow me away


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my sister liked or likes rpgs with no combat and being nice to ppl stuff like a real life in another world

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Quote: "but a particular thread on the Penny Arcade forum shows a bit of anger from your average gamer"


Maybe they were just upset at having their asses kicked by a bunch of girls?

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Hehe, the average gamer does'nt post in gamer forums, I'm a hardcore gamer and have been for 2 decades, and I've never posted on a gamer forum, or felt the need to.


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I personaly don´t mind girls playing games ´cos I´ll still kick ass at any game I touch, be it against boys or girls. Especialy fighting games.
P.S You may think I´m MIR but I´m not, I´m his younger bro by 364 days lol. I just thought I would post here. MIR hasn´t beaten me at any game yet.


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I tend not to play a lot of games online because of a crappy connection and until about 2 months back a decrepit pc. However, I used to be very good with console multiplayer games, like GoldenEye and PerfectDark. It's a shame there were never any tournaments for them games around here

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Kentaree, XBox live is where it's at - they have tournaments all the time.


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i host my own tournaments on halo on xbox we get 16 ppl into one horrible sweaty room and 3 of us (me and 2 friends) beat the crap out of the rest no matter the combination of ppl its so fun

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The problem with Halo is that you need a very good connection for all players, if you dont want any lag (there are only a few servers that I use that are sufficiently fast).

Other games are much better in that department, which means that the networking system in Halo needs improving (which it wont be now).


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Posted: 31st Aug 2004 23:35 Edited at: 31st Aug 2004 23:37
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i personally wouldn't mind getting blown up by a hot chick ...but nobody can blow me up anyway(okay, so it happens occasionally)...anyone here play AA? wanna get blown to smithereens?

Quote: "the networking system in Halo needs improving "

it'll be improved for Halo 2...

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Saw some Halo2 multiplayer footage last week, and it looks awesome, seems more like Unreal Tournament, like Assault modes etc (which is always great fun).


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I think it's wrong to hire people to compete in something like that. Gaming is a casual sport, putting people in who are motivated by money is just wrong.

Of course, I'd forget that for a bit if they showed up


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yeah i heard they have something special planned...

something along the lines of being able to go with a bunch of other master chiefs and duke it out against an army of the covenent...while defending earth in the process..of course

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Quote: "it'll be improved for Halo 2..."

Trouble is, there is still no word about it appearing on the PC - I'm certainly not getting the XBox version.


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Oh it'll come out for the PC in time. They simply wouldn't pass up a market like that. But I'm sure Microsoft will squeeze every last bit of cash out of this before they allow it to be ported; the Xbox needs a savior after all.


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The XBox is doing pretty well - its the Gamecube that needs saving...


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lol...let's not get into a console war

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Okay then...


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Quote: "its the Gamecube that needs saving..."

Please let that game be Zelda. Just think. Right now people are working on it bringing it slowly closer to completion.


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Okay-- so if you could pick a frag doll to-- er-- play a match against -- who'd it be?

I like the furthest to the left and the blond Avril clone...


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1.furthest to left
2.middle(counting the blonde on the right side)
3.blonde "Avril" clone

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Yeah, far left

and the brunette in the center

But I would want them on my team.

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What - your not man enough to beat them yourself ?


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No, because I aint stupid enough to go against them and they're hot.


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So you would be slobbering over your keyboard instead of trying to defeat them?


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Argh the one crouching down

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Someone photoshop that image to give them aprons and scrubbing brushes or something...

That'll teach those smelly girls.

P.S I'm trying to find an image on the internet of the episode where homer plays with a pen which reveals a naked woman when you turn it upside down.... Anyway, afterwards he grabs about a dozen of them and watches them all at the same time. You lot probably had a similar face to Homer's.


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I'm guessing she hasn't got as much *front* as the others .


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Wouldn't matter


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The brunette in the center. And maybe the girl on the far left, she's hot as well

But I would want them on my team. Or at least playing next to me Otherwise I would be slobbering too much to impress anyone of them

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Just think unsexy thoughts...


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Like what? Even the sterotype their trying to break works aganist them. After all, girls don't frag.

That alone has me out buying a new keyboard

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I would ownx0rz all of them on ut2k4. If i could beat 1 bot on beginner difficulty...hmm...perhaps i have to shoot him...i have been trying to have a running race with him but he takes it personally and blows me up.

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Quote: "Like what?"

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Girls are easy to beat at online gaming. Just question their:

*size of waistline
*size of arse
*general attractiveness
*promiscuity
*just who their "real friend" is

and then while their consoling each other hugging/whatever crap just crack out the redeemer.


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In Halo, I just run over anyone in the Warthog, Ghost or whatever vechile I can "relieve" from anyone...


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Uhm... That's a joke, right?

Ah, the sadness of being a cheap gamer. I could take all of them on a team aganist just me if it were Soldat we were playing, but alas... I have no Halo, no Doom 3, no Painkiller, no UT, no Battlefield whatever, no AvsP, no nothin. If I could only interduce them to some freeware games... Ah, the possibilitys

btw, Soldat is the best online freeware game in existance. Check it out at http://soldat.prv.pl *sighs* If only...

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lol to that, adr. whislt they're crying into their keyboards, just whip out the chainsaw But the redeemer would work better, considering you actually want them to like you
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Soldat is supposed to be pretty awful...

Quote: "Uhm... That's a joke, right?"

What is ?


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You kiddin me? Soldat is the best... Even though it's in 2d, it's stil as fun as Halo or UT

Oh, and the joke was from the last page... The thing about trying to race a un coperetave bot in UT

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Never played it - only going by third party hearsay...


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Girls are hot


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Quote: "Trouble is, there is still no word about it appearing on the PC - I'm certainly not getting the XBox version."



Last i heard from the local H2 multiplayer beta tester (and local halo and BF1942 server caretaker) is that the campaign mode won't be released on PC, well atleast anytime soon. My best guess is that we'll see a map pack for Halo Custom Edition, that'll be allt he multiplayer maps.

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What! Noooooooooooo...

*sobs to self*

I thought Halo2 was going to come out on PC, like 1/2 a year or so after the XBox edition. I was going to try to break out of my sterotype of cheap gamer and chip out the $50 for it...

@Jimmy: These girls are hot. Not all girls are hot, sadly enough

@TCA: at only 10 megs, why not try it? It's free... Oh, and yes, I know this thread was suposted about hot chicks

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