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Work in Progress / [LOCKED] Sage Tech is Proud to Anounce the Development of a MMORPG named World Of Medieval Heroes.

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Scarlek
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Posted: 23rd Dec 2004 06:36 Edited at: 23rd Dec 2004 06:38
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One more thing about mmorpgs and so on...

We've seen 3 different mmorpgs submitted to us, each had been in development for about 3 years by a full team of coders, artists, designers etc etc. Each one of these dev teams needed over £100k to finish up the project and further additional costs. (Still leaving the publisher to do marketing, server setup, manufactring etc which isn't cheap.)

If you don't have 3+ years, over £300k (for a cheap nasty mmorpg!) and a full pro dev team to hand, don't bother trying to make an mmorpg.

As an extra note, as of today all three mmorpgs have not been signed for publishing and the chances are they will never see the light of day - even pro's struggle to break into this genre.

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It's Cobol (Cobalt is a element), and yes, I have a BA Degree in CIS (which I was forced to learn Cobol and DB2 Mainframe Programming using ROSCOE), but that was over 14 years ago...

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Hey folks, settle down. Ambition is a good thing remember.

Why everyone wastes there time poking fun at a 12 year old is what really made me laugh though...



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That's why I suggested my little challange. I'm not making "complete" fun of him. He is a heck of a lot nicer than Dark Basic Newbie, who is a complete ....

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Why do they lie so much?

They just back themselves into holes.
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Not aiming my statement at anyone in particular.

Would rather just let this thread float to the bottom, until some screenshots come.



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Hey this thread shouldn't go to waste, let's disuss Ice Cream.

I think Ice Cream is the best food in the world, it's so creamy and delicious, and cold., I love Ice Cream..... yummm!

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chocolate, or that hudson ice cream the honeycomb one with the maltesers. that one be the bomb diggetty. and im sure all this guy wanted to do was create some intrigue and make us go oooh i wonder what the game is! etc, but i'm sure he did not realize just how many times we've heard of the leet mmorpg coming from new people,though i for one am not saying lets give him a break burn the heretics i say. if you're going to claim you're making some fantasmical game show some evidence of prior experience, don't jsut say oh i've done so many years of c++, how the hell do we know you have, i could say i boned paris hilton, though very likely, i dont have the proof to back it up these days. show us what you've worked on in these past years so we can see that you're not some punk foreign kid who thinks he's top stuff.

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Punk foriegn kid? Im not sure what the full meaning of that mey be. However i am to you as I live in a different country. And I see people doubt my C expirience which I completely understand why you do, I mean its strange for a kid to come out and make something that is deemed almost impossible. But I ask you , Where the Pong Creators a major production team when they started? Who revived the gaming industry? Two 13 year olds with a educational computer! (Ive researched this topic for years!

p.s was it c or c++ that introduced /* *\ remarks ? just curious

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ok heres a screen shot off a possible starting point used in my beta version 0.1

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ok that didnt work does the pic have to be a gif?

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What the heck? FINANCIAL ADVISOR? You're a bunch of 12 year olds kids who need a reality check, why need a financial advisor?

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well you can check my site for the screen shot until i find out how to put a picture on here

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Quote: "It's capabilities range from printing text to putting dots on the screen, that's it. t'est fou toi!"

lol just had to quote that, I've heard "t'est fou toi" used a lot, it made me laugh seeing you say it .

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You little site says it can't display the picture because it has "errors". Maybe if you could convert it to a web-friendly format like .jpg like the millions of other web users out there, then maybe we'll shut up about it.

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Quote: "Why everyone wastes there time poking fun at a 12 year old is what really made me laugh though..."


Everybody loves to poke the weakest guy Including me

When I started thinking about programing games I had tons of ideas,
and I actually spent years in front of PC and only then I fully understood how hard it is to make a finished game, not only cube on the matrix or "proof of concept"

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well,well Im not incharge of asighning names im here to program its what my dads done for 30 years and its what ive done for 5 years. you're welcome to say all you want though and like I said I understand you not in belief of our game programing capabilities but I have one thing most people dont, I ve got a 50 year old programmer whom ive mentened often, and mr "Mattman" may I ask what expirience you have in programming?

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Never mind Im not going to make the game I see the error of my ways and how imposible it is bye guys.

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just kidding im sure some of you got all excited though. it still on!

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here maybee this time ill get the image up

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ok now for some story on the game:

In World of Medieval Heroes you can venture around the massive world, collect items, fight battles, and more! Edit your charchters race,atribute and powers two! Not to mention body custimation!


More coming soon

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o and whats the "Dark Game SDK" ?

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By the way one more thing I will complete this game becouse one person is helping me greater then all programmers combined. this person has been forgoten by the U.S Commes who believe seperation of church and state. this man that helps me is GOD! got a problem with it go on ahead and sound off.

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Dark Game SDK is an SDK of DarkBASIC for C++. If you really want to konw about it go to the product info page. Also, that screenshot isn't showing mcuh other than that you can build a world that's got a castle. Let's see some screens showing something happening.

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My GOD! Use the EDIT option please!

http://darkgamesdk.thegamecreators.com/

Why am I having Mario Kart flashbacks after looking at the Castle?

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I see its a c program, nice ill look into it, I wonder if its as powerful as other c compilers though? also i put that one up because I haven’t any more space to put screen shots but i think i found a way to put a picture without my ftp space. I’m going to make a small demo available by the 15th of January and more screen shots
(especially the interface) And some action shots by the 10th.

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DBCe = 2 1/2 years
HTML = 5 years
PHP / MySQL = 2 years
JavaScript = 1 year

I could say I have experience in C++ but I wouldnt call making a DirectX message box or copy + pasting a OGL tutorial actual programming experience, which I assume is what you have. You can ask tons of people here, I've been here a long time. I have a pretty good reputation. I'm a decent coder who doesn't get a whole lot done but has learned to work in teams to get it done. I once was like you. I got flamed. I learned to use that to raise my sanity level. Just figure out where you are, ok? Don't get too far ahead of yourself.

Oh, and BTW wanna see an example of one of my websites? http://eternaldestinyonline.com/NewWebsite/ Click on the picture.

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Quote: "it made me laugh seeing you say it "
You saw me say that, were are you whatching me from!?

Quote: "this man that helps me is GOD! "
I almost pissed my self when I read that, you have NO idea how stupid that sounds. Like god said "let there be light", and there was light. then he said "let this 12 year old kid finish his MMORPG", and the kid was flamed in TGC forums.

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If you want somewere to store your pictures try http://www.photobucket.com

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Quote: "Quote: "this man that helps me is GOD! "
I almost pissed my self when I read that, you have NO idea how stupid that sounds. Like god said "let there be light", and there was light. then he said "let this 12 year old kid finish his MMORPG", and the kid was flamed in TGC forums."


So Manticore Night, what gives you the right to poke fun at other people, why do you have to hinder someones progress, can't you just get on with your own life?

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well im sorry that you find god to be funny, kinda ungratefull you seem. Doesnt matter though i mean you can say what you want. but i see you live in socialist Country (michal moore loves canada!) that explains your anti god ways. maybee your not and i misunderstood i do not know well shall see a?

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Michael Moore is retarted, must be related to Sage Tech Webmaster

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by the way my first c program was not copied and pasted but was (though crude) a good game for a first one. it was 3d pac man

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o agree michal moore is a commee and should rot in H*ll. I hate him almost as much as I hate Bumbiling Idiot Jimmy Carter.

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Quote: "well shall see a?"
Wha?

Quote: "Sage Tech Webmaster"
Sage Tech Administrator. Show some respect, he's about to be flamed into ablivion.

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This thread involves a MMORPG being written by a 12th year old.

(pause)

Enough said.

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Quote: " by the way my first c program was not copied and pasted but was (though crude) a good game for a first one. it was 3d pac man"


Your first program in C was a 3d one.............. right.

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I get programming natrully from my father, he taught me all i know which is why its easy for me, he has quite a bit of expirience. He started with fortran, thats the oldest programming language of them all incase you dont know, it was no easy task.

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Ok, guys, before we get in to politics
Let's hear some facts -

Mr. Administrator,
1. How many connections will your game support?
2. How big your world will be in DB units (also please let us know camera height)

Thank you.

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My first C++ programme printed Hello World! on the screen, never got much further .
My dad helped me out when I started in DB, he could still remember things he'd learnt on his Speccy, seriously though, it's a massive help having someone to help first hand when you get stuck.
Have you managed to make any progress with the game Sage Tech?

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Quote: "How big your world will be in DB units (also please let us know camera height)"


Woah, you'd have to have done some major planning if you knew how big the game world was going to be in DB units right from the word go, I normally just go with the flow.

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thank you for the questions sir I apriciate that we can get back int the game so:

1. I will eaither inlist the use of dll's or my as I mentioned earlier merging to different langauges into one aplication, which means that I could inlist the help of java aplet capababilities. In this and calculations I will have just 1 server to begain with as I want to see if this game becomes a hit before sinking in to much money. this first server with the help of a java aplet or dll can amount to the game allowing about 2000 connections at first. (I plan not to use direct play which is provided in dark basic becouse it falls short of what I need. As I said I already have 1 server ready to for this.

2. This is still up for debate, but the map is planned to be a good size. My program will be a 3rd person game. That is for sure

id be happy to answer any more questions and i will answer this first question when it comes availible.

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Quote: " He started with fortran, thats the oldest programming language of them all incase you dont know,
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No, actually "Short Code" is the first programming language, just thought i'd point that out.

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LOL. Sage Tech is not a game but my label for my games (company) this game is known as World of Meieval Heroes. Its my first publicised game but i have made few.

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Wounld bianary technically be the first machine language? Some call it a programming language, I don't. But whatever, anyone still up for talking about ice cream?

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yes but fortran was the first publiceised and widely used and know programing language

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You post too much.

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im just keeping up with questions!

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So any more questions?

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Yes actually... I'm sceptical about your C experience... have any programs to show us?

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well id have to go get them from my old computer i could post some tommorow

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however i do wish to ask if its not to persoanll, do you have any c expirience?

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