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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / DBP CD

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ShockFire
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Posted: 21st Jan 2003 21:36
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Why on earth do i have to stick the DBP CD in everytime i want to compile something?, this is awfull (especially for my collection of CD's i like to play while im programming, and i arnt wasting precious hard drive space by copying them over).

I'm used to programming and compiling freely, ive had DBP for about two hours and its already driving me up the wall swapping CD's around, i don't care about illegal copies and such (there are much more better ways of securing this than getting you to stick the CD in all the time), i just wanna program and have use of my CD rom at the same time.

I have two CD drives (a fast DVD player, and a very slow CDR), and i cant listen to music CD's from the CDR because its too slow and after about 30seconds of music it starts to jump and skip, i cant run DBP off the CDR because it takes about a minute just to validate the DBP disc, which is annoying when your'e like me and like to compile certain areas of your program as you go along step by step.)

I bet its even worse for you guys with only one CD drive, but i can tell ya its bloody annoying for me. It would be great if you could find some other security feature than this for a next patch (or if youve already changed it in an early patch, i havent downloaded the latest yet).

Anyway, just to tell you its bloody annoying. If you all think im whining other nothing feel free to tell me to shut up
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Rob K
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Posted: 21st Jan 2003 21:54
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You are not whining but you do not have to swap the CDs all the time - the limit is only once every 100 or so compiles. (You have upgraded to Patch 3? - in which case I think it is even less often)

NOBODY has a forum name as stupid as Darth Shader. I do.
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ShockFire
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Posted: 21st Jan 2003 22:01
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Well that make me feel a bit better, thanx, but for some reason its done it three times in a row?

Hopefully patch3 will sort that out, downloading now, on my 56k lol

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haggisman
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Posted: 21st Jan 2003 22:02
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I haven't had my DBpro cd in my drive for days now, im beginging to wonder if the cd check is there any more, btw why don't you just put your music onto your HD as mp3's, its a lot easier than having to switch cds all the time.

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ShockFire
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Posted: 21st Jan 2003 22:10
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I would put all my music into mp3's, but i only have a 17gig harddrive and i like to download stuff lol (even on my 56k i managed to nearly fill my HD).

I'll probably be buying a new HD soon, or actually i might build my self a new computer coz this ones buggered.

PIII 450mhz, 256megs ram, TNT2 32meg graphics, Win98 which runs quite dodgyily on my pc...

The ram isnt bad though, its only SDRAM but it improved my pc alot from the old 128megs 66mhz crap.

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SoulMan
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Posted: 21st Jan 2003 23:44
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Ouch,
I would build a new computer.
At least a 1.3Ghz Duron.
That would help you the most.
Plus a new video card.
Check www.newegg.com for some great prices on this stuff.
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Kangaroo2
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 00:20
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I get perfectly acceptable performance on my old 800Mhz GForce2 Machine, the difference between that and my New 1800Mhz GForce4 isn't exactly HUGE... so a 1.3Gz speed is a little over powering if he wants to do it really cheaply - although I would obviously always recommend upgrading to the highest spec you can afford

As for the CD thing, it only asks for my CD about once a week, I'm using patch 3. However even this is quite annoying if you can't find the CD at the time... I am considering using CDilla or other such software with it

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Benjamin
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 00:46
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the machine speed has nothing to do with the CDD

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jasuk70
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 01:35
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It's designed to detect when you've put your CD away somewhere and forgotten where it is

Since i've been using DBPro i've only been asked for the CD 3 times. And must have hundreds of compiles. (Patched up to 3.1 before i started using it)

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MrTAToad
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 13:13
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I've had my register at a large negative number - well, last time I look anyway - and I haven't been requested for the CD for ages (and the testing for my plug-ins take quite a few compiles), so I have been wondering about the CD check for a while now...

Good news everyone! I really am THAT good...
http://www.nickk.nildram.co.uk/ for great plug-ins - oh my, yes!
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Kangaroo2
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 14:36
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Petrat, I know I was answering two separate points

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ShockFire
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 21:29
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wow, well the new patch really sorted me out! It hasnt asked me once since i installed it

And the commands being highlighted in colour along with everything else (like in DE), that helps me alot! I want to praise the guy who decided to add that to patch 3. Also (i didnt notice this in the normal version anyway), the "bubble" that pops up telling you all the varibles needed for that commend is a truely awesome idea! For some reason, with patch 3, one of my programs in windowed mode has gone from 5fps up to 120fps !! Im very very impressed with patch 3, wanna thank the DB team for it

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At least a 1.3Ghz Duron.
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Lol! my 450 would run better and faster than any crappy duron! They have to be the worst processor ever, I mean the average duron only has a 128k cache! My P3 has a 512k cache! A cache difference like that means alot, the speed of a 1.3ghz duron acts like a 350mhz P3 lol. And i really wouldnt recommend durons for any sort of gaming ever (maybe a little 2D), theyre office computer processors lol. I might get an athlon though, theyre pretty sweet, or a P4 (drool). Maybe a celeron 2.2 celerons arnt actually that bad (all a celeron is is a P3 in discuise. Once the P5 comes out, the celeron will be a P4 )

Anyway, i probably wouldnt buy anything less than a 2ghz. Apart from the amiga one, although its only gonna be a 700mhz cpu, i got to have me one of those !

Lol, i talk too much
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ShockFire
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 21:37
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well, did a little research after this, and a duron 1ghz compared equally to a P3 600mhz, maybe i was over exagerating a little before

That was done using the same graphics card and ram and everything (well different mboard obviously )
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Kangaroo2
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 22:05
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Mmmmm New Amigas....

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The Wendigo
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2003 22:30
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Someone showed me how to disable the CD check from the widndows Regestry but I don't remember who and I formatted my harddrive since then so I lost the info. If anyone remembers it would help. Minus that, me and a friend of mine found this really cool program called Game Drive that allows you to save virtual CDroms on your harddisk so you never have to use the CD again!!! Unfortunaely.... we lost it . Dang I'm pathetic!

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Benjamin
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2003 02:01
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Virtual Cdroms? ISO images you mean. Get a CD writer that can make CD images from CDs.

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The One Ring
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2003 02:15
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No, Wendigo means a virtual cdrom drive, not an ISO. An ISO is simply a file containing an image of a cd's contents. The virtual CD software he's referring to actually installs virtual machine drivers and simulates a CD Drive. It even gets a drive letter...

Just though I should clarify.

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Benjamin
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wow! but the image also contains all the data from a cd. I make ISO files from my playstation CDs and play them using an emulator...

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The One Ring
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This is true. The ISO image does contain all the CD data. And the emulator you use obviously recognizes and reads the ISO format and extracts the data it needs.

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