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Digital Dragon
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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 01:22 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 01:26
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Every hacker who reads this post, hear this. I have made a programme which i find is unbeatable. I will not release data on the things this system does but hackers, seroiusly i swear this is unbreakable. If you do get to the end somehow....there is a passcode. post the code and i will be AMAZED! tHIS IS A TEST AND HOPEFULLY NO-ONE will be able to hack this coz then i will use it for my games. Enjoy

P.S - The exe is in a zip found by the site below.
[href]www.freewebs.com/jack386-mrnaughty/sgames.htm[/href]
Go to the bottom double click UNBEATABLE SYSTEM.

P.S - How do i make a http:// link on these forums?

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right...
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? what.....

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Is this a challenge I hear? if this is just encoded i'll luagh my head off

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^_^

Why would I wanner waste my time hacking anyway lol

(P.S I will try the thingy anyway)

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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 01:35 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 01:37
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umm... i tried a password and it just exited
and do you need a special username?

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try it..... it is different.

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umm... that doesn't really answer my question

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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 01:39 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 01:40
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Oh tht is because you entered it wrong. I just thought I'd mention tht soz for not saying earlier.
And the whole point is tht u enter a valid password. That is y it is unbtaeable.

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oh ok thanks but do you need a special username as well?

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Soz i kept posting just b4 u lol...

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If you say so i will relese the usernames and passwords for the first two locks. Then you can get to the part which I find unbeatable. Muha ha ha.
I call it a time lock but just say if u want the user and pass.


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so we're meant to just keep entering random words until something happens? ... fun

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01231323

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just give us the user and pass ^_^

(This message will prob come in late, coz I'm a newbi to forum =( )

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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 01:51 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 01:51
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well tht is why i said

Quote: "CALLING ALL HACKERS"



and if you want the first two passwords and usernames they are.

Then you get to the TIME LOCK!

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I don't get this, anyone could make this little script code.

What's so 'New' About this?

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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 01:57 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 01:58
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You have SOME-HOW HACKED HIS GAME!

heh heh heh

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how the hell.....but what is the passcode..

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Alternatively insert a JMP at 0x0883FF8C, and 0x005ACC9D. You will bypass the problem.

No protection is unbeatable.

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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 02:00 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 02:01
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Has sum1 already cracked this?

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passcode is 920625...16:00:00...etc

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required - For people who speak english and a bit of french.lol


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looks like we posted at the same time

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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 02:08 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 02:08
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I trying to think of a way to make it so you can't hack! I THOUGHT OF THE TIME LOCK BUT OVIOUSLY IT ISN'T GD ENOUGH. *THINKING*

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Make it run a check on the exe itself to see if it is the same, otherwise kill it. However that will be rather hard to do

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Required used ASM Hax.


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rihgt....i might go for a different approach but who likes this code since i am quite young and am still a newbie?

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sorry didn't mean to spoil it for you

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no u didn't just trying to make something tht is very hard to break.

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did Robot get it?


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well just to say i didn't use any complex methods i just opened it in wordpad and found the password. Thats the first thing i have ever tried to hack and i feel quite proud of myself for succeding

it took a long time to siphon through it all though

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haha, the pass wasn't even encrypted in the file! I started to look in the EXE but too lazy



OT: If anyone can find it ya'll should try out my encryption routine, no-one's cracked it yet

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does that mean you don't know where it is?

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I looked using google and the search feature and browsing, couldn't find it

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Will I get a basket of fruit if I hack it?

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If I can fit it down my phone line also ya need to find i first

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same here

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If all you want is a password then use a calculation. As Required said, if you can find where to hack the program then it doesn't matter what you do, as someone can find a place to avoid your password routine. A lot harder to do though.

So, for example, your password is DAZZAG. *Don't* store it as that in the program. Anyone can look in wordpad/ hex editor and look for obvious things. So make a calculation on it. Some of the earliest ones I did was to say ascii values of words. So for example PASS$=CHR(68)+CHR(88)+CHR...etc. That way (unless the compiler translates it) the password won't appear as easily as Robot looked for it.

A better method (explained to me in Uni for Unix passwords) is this : Go through each letter and do a calculation. So the passValue is 0 at the start. Times the ascii value of the first letter of the password by some other number (eg. 10) and add to the passValue. The second letter maybe get the ascii value and times by 3, then add this to passValue. Third letter get ascii value and divide by 5. Add this to passValue. Do this all along the password. Even use the login code to work out maths with the ascii value of the password if you want, just to make super complicated. Now store passValue, *NOT* the password. Then when someone logs in do the same calculation on the password and if it matches what is stored hey presto you are in. And you cannot work out the password from passValue. Even if you know the maths for each letter. Think about it. I had a small argument (with beer admittingly) with a Maths PHD guy over that one. But no way back. Note that this method means that other "words" will get the same passValue as your password, but are so unbelievingly unlikely it's not worth worrying about. And I can't see anyone getting the password from a hex/ wordpad edit. Even if I give you the login and the passValue, and even the algorithm to work it out.

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why could you not do it if you had the passvalue? the rest sounds good though

sorry i understand now

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My thing opens a file, encrypts it with methods like what Dazzag said, including xor, and spit it back out again.

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I believe there might be an MD5 Encryption Plug-in. If there isn't then it isn't exactly hard to make, but it does make life a little more difficult for hackers.

One solution that Kentaree came up with for me, was a layered Encryption. You have 2 programs running, one is specifically designed for the registration. The other is the actual program.
They then talk to each other in different encryptions based on what is being passed. In some instances you can even place dummy keys going back and forth.

This is an more suitable solution, given that someone would have to check both programs. If you add in a need for an encrypted message to be randomly sent and responded in kind, this means there is no way they can simple by-pass security. Instead they have to figure out a way to emulate the calls.

While they would crack it eventually, most people have the attention span of a newt. When programming up your protection, all you have to do is keep them having to figure out new aspects long enough for them to want to give up.

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could i use a rnd code
then you have to enter tht to go to the next section?

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Notice I didn't do anything with the example? Doh...

Password is DAZZAG. The algorithm will be : 1=*10 2=/5 3=+235 4=*19 5=/4. We won't bother with a login effecting the calculations. Would be easy enough though. Eg. First letter of login adds or subtracts one from the calculation (eg. 1=*11 or *9 depending) depending if it's ascii value is odd or even. To be easy too we will just add each to passValue (could add then subtract, whatever)
So.... passValue starts at 0.
Char1=D Ascii=68 Calc=*10 passValue+=680 = 680
Char2=A Ascii=65 Calc=/5 passValue+=13 = 693
Char3=Z Ascii=90 Calc=+235 passValue+=325 = 1018
Char4=Z Ascii=90 Calc=*19 passValue+=1710 = 2728
Char5=A Ascii=65 Calc=/4 passValue+=16.25 = 2744.25

Store 2744.25 as your passValue. Then when login do the same calculation. If it isn't 2744.25 then reject. Simple really.

Was told that is why Unix machines (or ones that use the method) don't give you any way of getting your password, even if you are superuser (root). Unless they store it elsewhere. Which normally happens on forums and the like. Normally they just change it to welcome01 or whatever to get stuffed accounts (forgotten passwords) working again.

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You would have to pass the Randomisation Seed as part of your Encryption, else the Randomisation is useless.

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could i write something like this maybe.
at the begginin gwrite this h$=rnd(1000)and another load of them then use maths funtions to times these. Then that produces a code. Would this work?

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but you can't reproduce safely it without using a seed

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sorry if this sounds stupid but ?seed?
Oh and another question - what hacking programmes are there so i can make it as hard as possible to brake.

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If you randomise the number when encoding it, then how do you know how do decode it?

If you use the method I said then you should have no worries apart from people hacking the program to avoid the password routine etc. Much like was mentioned before. But that is well hard to do if you hide the routine well enough. And seriously I doubt anyone would even try on unknown software. But is basically the sort of things you hear about with Warez. eg. Patch to stop XP authorisation. That sort of thing. But if Microsoft can't stop it then you don't have a chance. Apart from with the too small to care angle.

Just a password system that stops like 99.9% of people though, then the above will do. Apparently is the general method of Unix passwords. So can't be too bad.

As I said, try and work out the password from the final passValue figure. Even with the algorithm. It ain't happening. Bung in more complicated maths and mix it up with the login (various cool and easy things with ASCII of login) and even more not happening. You aren't breaking that bugger. Unless you write a program to try every combination known to man. In which case I will make the password 128 characters long , then see you again in 2050 when your program has finished

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lol if the programme started at 0000000000000000000000 then just put 9999999999999999999999999999999 lol that would be funny. BTW COULD SOMEONE PLZ GIVE ME SITES FOR HACKING PLZ! thx

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