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Lieutenant is spelt the same in both counteries. It is only the British army that insist on calling them Lef'tenants. Probably some accent that stuck throughout the ranks.

In the RAF and Navy it is very definately pronounced correctly.

Also Petrol is not Gas. They are similar, about as similar has Premium (Unleaded) and Regular (4Star) but they're not the same thing. It's why when you import cars between countries they have to do service checks and install alterations to te Catalyst Converter in order to process the fuel right.

The Jelly/Jam/Jello issue, is quite an odd one. While Van is right, in both counteries we have both Jelly and Jam; they are labeled differently.

Jam = Fruit Preserve / Marmalaid
Jelly != Jello, while it is a brand of Jelly.. it mearly stands for the Geloten(sp?) mixxes. Where-as Jelly is different form of Geloten, that you can create bigger batches from small squares.
Then you have the whole Mangola stuff which is best left alone.

The whole French Fry thing was really answered in the many replies, although no one got it right... if you look at them all you find out the answer through the squabbles.

Something that's always annoyed me has been this. Not a mis-spelling, but using a completely different word for something.

Anglo-English:
"Johnny was going to make a cake, except he didn't have the ingredients."

American-English:
"Johnny was going to make a cake, save he didn't have the ingredients."

I mean I see it all the time in books, and often it just makes no f**king sense. I mean what the hell is wrong with the work 'except', it is a shortening of Exception, which is used...

a good example of how american and the english (Scots/Welsh/Irish all speak thier own variations of english, funny how they can accept the language as-is but the damn yanks had to futz with it) is the words

Either, and Tomatoe.

UK: Ee-th-er US: Ey-th-a
UK: To-mar-toe US: To-may-toe

silly things

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Quote: "US: Ey-th-a"


Im fully raised in the US and i say
Quote: "Ee-th-er"


Quote: "US: To-may-toe"

That is correct though.
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Posted: 22nd Mar 2005 20:14 Edited at: 23rd Mar 2005 07:54
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I've noticed American's spell 'laser' as 'lazer', which is really quite stupid because laser is actually an acronym, LASER: Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Nice work, guys.

Actually, what really gets me is the way the US pronounce everything, such as Iraq (ee-raq) as eye-raq, detail (dee-tail) as der-tail and don't get me started on how incorrect their pronounciation of 'aluminium' is.


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Quote: "Lieutenant is spelt the same in both counteries. It is only the British army that insist on calling them Lef'tenants. Probably some accent that stuck throughout the ranks.

In the RAF and Navy it is very definately pronounced correctly."


Yeah, whoops.

I think RAF say 'leftenant' as well ('flight leftenant' sounds more natural than 'flight lootenant')
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Quote: "Lieutenant is spelt the same in both counteries. It is only the British army that insist on calling them Lef'tenants."

That's what I thought

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The word blag annoys me.

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Oh stop blagging that the word blag annoys you..


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Yeah, especially when it's used out of context, like the word Blagging for instance.

Blagging would mean the act of blag, which means you could'nt accuse anyone of blagging about anything, because blag means aquire.

We've got enough words that indicate theft, let's boycott blagg and bring back my old favourite - Chor, I chorred a bike said the ned...


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Quote: " because blag means aquire"

Prove it.


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Posted: 23rd Mar 2005 01:10 Edited at: 23rd Mar 2005 01:10
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It has many meanings, but they all boil down to the same thing.

Burglary.
Theft.
Aquiring.
Conning.

etc etc etc

In a sentence?

''I had the wrong shoes on but I managed to blag my way in''
''I blagged that TV from Radio Rentals''
''I gotta do time for that blag I pulled with the Mitchell brothers''


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Oh okay. Its just that in french they use a similar word, in the context I used it in with my other post, it must be just me getting mixed up


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Quote: "Kwe-beck"
THAT'S WRONG TOO! It's CAY-BEC!

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According to dictionary.com its kwi-bec.... of course, I say it kwe-bec. Don't know what your talking about anyway, I bet you don't speeak with a proper French accent


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How come when we learn foreign languages they make us speak it in their accent? eg. extremely strong frenchy accent when doing french. But obviously foreigners aren't taught to speak English with a strong english accent, cos none of them even sound like they are trying. And don't say they can't, as we can do an acceptable impersonation of all of you lot. Mainly down the pub after a few bevvies, along with enthusiastic hand signals.

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Damn. And I meant to say, are you sure about Jam? I mean you get seedless jam, and I'm pretty sure it's called "seedless jam", and not jelly. Our jelly is that more solid stuff you bung in triffles and the like.

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Quote: "aren't taught to speak English with a strong english accent, cos none of them even sound like they are trying"

Erm, well if you would like to come over to a French school, maybe take a tape recorder and record a class where they teach English, I would consider accepting that comment.

There are certain words that the French can't say, mainly words like 'Really' because the French language doesn't contain words that use R in the same way as that. It is similar with the english language, because words like 'Gros'(thats a french word) I still find difficult saying, but I'm sure I'll eventually get used to it. Anyway, maybe to you they don't sound like they are trying, but really, have you ever lived in a non-english speaking country being around people that speak a different language to what you're used to? Its hard to differentiate between accents unless you have properly learned to understand them.

So neeh


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Quote: "American-English:
"Johnny was going to make a cake, save he didn't have the ingredients.""


I've only ever seen that from English authors, and generally in older books.

Quote: "I've noticed American's spell 'laser' as 'lazer', which is really quite stupid becuase laser is actually an acronym, LASER: Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Nice work, guys. "


That's a general, across-the-board mistake. It's properly spelled laser in both countries.

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Quote: "American-English:
"Johnny was going to make a cake, save he didn't have the ingredients.""


We don't really say save like that very often, though it would make perfect sense if somebody did..

Haha, you're right though, it doesn't make much sense^_^


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Quote: "According to dictionary.com its kwi-bec.... of course, I say it kwe-bec. Don't know what your talking about anyway, I bet you don't speeak with a proper French accent "
um.. I'm sorry, but I think you have the wrong accent. Like think about it. If you did it that way, it would sound like this: "K'wuh-eh-bec". But your talking like fluent french were you just talk normal it just doesn't fit. Plus, I know lots of people who are québecois, who say "K-BEC"(mostly followed by "EST LE MEILLEUR PLACE DU MONDE!"(they're all home-sick)). Plus, were you looking in a FRENCH dictionary?

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Quote: "Like think about it. If you did it that way, it would sound like this: "K'wuh-eh-bec"."

Ok, kih-bec(kih is like saying kick without the ck). No I was looking on www.dictionary.com(english), I will say it how my fellow british say it damn you


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I acctually found proof on google! http://members.tripod.com/lagooncreature/mespeak.html Scroll down and you'll find it. I also found a french Janpoisne translating dictionary! And a whole bunch of p0rn! Gotta love Google Français(Go-g-L)! kyuuseigun'(salut, en japonais. J'ADORE CE LAROUSE!)

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Aay Jean, ware did dat team, you no, dat awwkey team, de Kay-Beck Nordiques go? Eh?

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Ya I'm not very good at finding OFFICIAL proof. But I had a french teacher named Jean, it was a woman, weird.

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Quote: " Aay Jean, ware did dat team, you no, dat awwkey team, de Kay-Beck Nordiques go? Eh?"


Colorado Avalanches are de old Kay-Bekkers eh.


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Quote: "Johnny was going to make a cake, save he didn't have the ingredients."


That would be

Johnny was going to make a cake but, he didn't have the ingredients.

Or something similar here I have never heard the word save used like that here.

And the word either is pronounced both ways here depending on what street corner you are on, and whether or not you want to get shot.

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it would be more likely used like this::

"I should steal teh pron, save the gay stuff..."

Where, you steal everything but the gay pr0n. No offense to our gay members..


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And
Quote: "Quit = Quitted (what the.. "I quitted my job" "


We do say that both ways here. Quitted may sound funny to you, but it all depends on how "impaired" your judgement is from outside forces

Though I almost always use quit.

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Quote: "No offense to our gay members.."
None taken.

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Let's keep this appropriate please

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it's not like I'm giving links to gay pr0n

Nor am I slamming the gay community... Just used gay pr0n as an example x_x

And what's up with taking the piss?

Odd expression

Though I am fond of "aye" and "cheers"


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Heh heh. Yeah, cos it was such a deep and meaniful discussion before.

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Save is never used like that, you might get...

Timmy ate most of his supper, save for the sprouts because they are evil.

A direct replacement for 'Except', like...

Except for
Save for

Save meaning to keep aside, no white mans magic there dudes .

Accents have to be learned, like you have to hear them a helluva lot before you can mimic them - but I think it must be easier for English speakers to mimic accents, I mean how many French or German impersonators can you name?.


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I can mimic the native american accent like nobody's business..

That comes from living for 7 years of living 10 miles from the reservation..

I did my impersonation once on Yahoo chat.. and a guy asked if I was from said reservation.. creepy really


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So you are saying that you impersonate voices on Yahoo chat?

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/me decides to stir things up a little..

Minimize or minimise? :p

(Oxford dictionary says minimize, (thinking that the word comes from Greek), but it may not have...)

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Many apologies for this next comment, I don't mean to use this as a curse, but:

Pissed (UK) = drunk, intoxicated
Pissed (US) = past-tense, to urinate

I think we spell Laser as "Lazer" in the US because we all played the game "Lazer Tag" in the 1980's, lol

I've only heard my british friends say "save" instead of "Except." That's where I picked it up

I called Quebec "Kwa-beck" once and almost got decked in the face by an angry Canadian chick. Since then I've said it how she said it, "kah-beck"

Something I've noticed over the years: Every british person I've ever met who came to the US was dissappointed when I didn't talk like a southerner/ texan. Sorry! That's not how all of us talk! Why *do* southerners talk so strange?

And WHAT IS A FORTENIGHT?!? lol

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Its 2 weeks.


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Fortnight, as in fourteen nights

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I never thought of it as that..


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Quote: "Pissed (UK) = drunk, intoxicated"


Hehe we say that here, too. Or we use the term sloshed or hammered.


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Or smashed or wasted or slaughtered or sh*tfaced or off your face or completely out of it....

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Yeah, but we also use piss to mean urinate. As in "I pissed up the wall", or "damnit, I have to piss in this jar for the doctor".

Although with us it was more of a rude word (not that bad though) until really lately when US shows used it a lot in sentences such as "I'm like really pissed right now!". Sort of neutralised it.

Another word that was worse over here was w anker. Doesn't it mean idiot over there? Over here it's pretty rude, and not what you would say to your mother. Not sh*t level though... Was amazingly suprised when I was younger to hear Married with children's wife be called W anker as her maiden name. Hmmm, Christina Applegate was tops in that show...

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Heh, had to put a space between w and anker otherwise it wouldn't show it...

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Quote: "Quote: "Pissed (UK) = drunk, intoxicated"

Hehe we say that here, too. Or we use the term sloshed or hammered.
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um... speak for yourself, I have never heard anyone say Pissed(like drunk) before in Winnipeg.

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Weird--- and I would have thought the only thing you guys do in Winterpeg is drink and get stoned.


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Bum = Tramp
Store = Shop
Fishing Pole = Fishing Rod
Pool Stick = Pool Cue
Beer = Larger
Milky Way = Mars Bar
Three Musketeers = Milky way

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Quote: "Milky Way = Mars Bar"

What kind of twisted world do you live in?!

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In the US a mars is called a milky way, confused me I can tell ya.

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But...they are completely different things. Stupid US-ians


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As I said, confused me, I like Milky ways, the choc bar that is.

Candy = Chocolate

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