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Zero Blitzt
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WARNING: If you have a weak stomach, you may not want to read this. There's only one picture, and thats of Richard Chase himself, and its not bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase

This guy is easily the craziest person I've ever read about. He's in a totally different league than Hitler (ironically who he was afraid of).

Ugh... sickening.


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And how did you find that article? Just happened to be searching on "eating internal organs"?

Or you Asked Jeeves "Do I have the potential to be a pathological killer?"

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omg..It makes me sick..
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 01:59 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2005 02:00
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ugh... i couldn't finish. what a freak.

even worse, i live near sacramento!

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Quote: " And how did you find that article? Just happened to be searching on "eating internal organs"?

Or you Asked Jeeves "Do I have the potential to be a pathological killer?""


To be honest, I go to a private site called LUElinks (www.luelinks.net). Long story short: to be a member there, you need (needed) to create a GameFAQs account and sign it up for this private message board called LUE (Life, the Universe, and Everything). But the owner of GameFAQs has since shut off registrations for that board, so nobody new can get in. We are capped off at about 8000 users.


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Cian Rice
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That certainly is disturbing...


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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 04:08 Edited at: 27th Jun 2012 06:39
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I don't know, I consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Bulger to be the most disturbing true story I've ever heard.
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 05:11
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Quote: "To be honest, I go to a private site called LUElinks (www.luelinks.net). Long story short: to be a member there, you need (needed) to create a GameFAQs account and sign it up for this private message board called LUE (Life, the Universe, and Everything). But the owner of GameFAQs has since shut off registrations for that board, so nobody new can get in. We are capped off at about 8000 users."


That didn't answer his question in the slightest. It gave absolutely no indication into how you found the article!


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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 05:30
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Quote: "That didn't answer his question in the slightest. It gave absolutely no indication into how you found the article!
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I thought it hinted towards the aquisition of the link from luelinks. Or maybe i'm psychic.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 09:41
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I thought he was saying how he wanted to be a member of LUELinks but couldn't join because they'd shut off the membership, in which case it was a dead end.


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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 09:58
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Well... If he said:

Quote: "I go to a private site called LUElinks (www.luelinks.net)"


Then he must be a either:

A) A Member
B) Very Lonely and hoping one day for a bug to occur letting him...
C) A 1337 haxxz0r one one tilde

My moneys on A, no, B...



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B sounds plausible enough for me.


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The fact that people like this are born into this world is plain disturbing.


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Yuck, why do I pay attention to threads like this??? Now I'll be depressed for the rest of the day


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Same here. I did my self the favour of stopping at the part where the found the er...stuff inside the women. Erm. Anyway.


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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 21:03 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2005 21:50
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I think I recall reading an article with figures that said that with 8% of the worlds population the US is the worlds leader with 75% of the worlds serial murders, or something like that, compared to the rest of the world the US is scarey

(as are some of their legal decisions...they wouldn`t allow the defence to plead insanity, the court said he was sane, what the...???)

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Quote: "as are some of their legal decisions...they wouldn`t allow the defence to plead insanity, the court said he was sane, what the...???"


He probably killed someone the judge knew and he wanted him to face the full penalty for his crimes.

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That's pretty bad.

Good thing they didn't let him plead insanity. Here is one person that justifies the death penalty.


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Posted: 4th Aug 2005 07:04 Edited at: 4th Aug 2005 07:07
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I know someone who is sicker..... My brother... he ate some dodgy sausages and he was the sickest person i ever saw.


Quote: "killing and mutilating animals and firestarting, both common traits amongst serial killers in their youth"


Which genius worked that one out?


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Posted: 4th Aug 2005 10:13 Edited at: 4th Aug 2005 10:15
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Quote: "I think I recall reading an article with figures that said that with 8% of the worlds population the US is the worlds leader with 75% of the worlds serial murders,"


That's completely untrue. Next time you decide to make up ridiculous statistics, could you at least make them believable ?

Quote: " Definition: Total recorded intentional homicides, completed.


Country Description Amount
1. Colombia 0.62 per 1000 people
2. Jamaica 0.32 per 1000 people
3. Russia 0.20 per 1000 people
4. Mexico 0.13 per 1000 people
5. Estonia 0.10 per 1000 people
6. Latvia 0.10 per 1000 people
7. Lithuania 0.10 per 1000 people
8. Belarus 0.09 per 1000 people
9. Papua New Guinea 0.08 per 1000 people
10. Kyrgyzstan 0.08 per 1000 people
11. Moldova 0.07 per 1000 people
12. Costa Rica 0.06 per 1000 people
13. Poland 0.05 per 1000 people
14. Georgia 0.05 per 1000 people
15. Bulgaria 0.04 per 1000 people
16. Armenia 0.04 per 1000 people
17. India 0.03 per 1000 people
18. Dominica 0.02 per 1000 people
19. Azerbaijan 0.02 per 1000 people
20. Finland 0.02 per 1000 people
21. Romania 0.02 per 1000 people
22. Portugal 0.02 per 1000 people
23. Malaysia 0.02 per 1000 people
24. Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 0.02 per 1000 people
25. Mauritius 0.02 per 1000 people "


The US isn't even in the top 25.

It's funny the crap some people decide to make up...

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you forgot to site... but then again it doesn't matter.
I can't beleive that we don't have the top killings.
But then again... the US could just be using the most ineficant way of filing killings, so they wouldn't have "the most RECORDED killings"

Aww, I think that my government will do anything to get what they want. So I wouldn't put it past them to pull something like that.

But you really can't argue with the facts, the US is not in the 25 biggest killer hotspots.

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Quote: "I can't beleive that we don't have the top killings."


Because the news media doesn't report "Woman and three children survive one more day", does it? Just like the 'epedemic of youth violence', it's nothing but a media spawned lie.

As to the post content... I feel somewhat compelled to remove it, actually, as I know children browse these forums. That is indeed the most sickening thing I've read in a long while.

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Ugh, that is sick!
Although this bit confuddles me
Quote: "and did not report the incident to anyone."
Then how come your telling us about it now :S

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@Ian T

Serial killers are people who commit multiple killings, a homicide is one killing.

Any spelling mistakes are totally In tensional.
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Quote: "Next time you decide to make up ridiculous statistics, could you at least make them believable ?"

Next time you decide to look up statistics, could you maybe try looking up the right thing?

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Quote: "He probably killed someone the judge knew and he wanted him to face the full penalty for his crimes."


Maybe, but judges can get disbarred for passing judgements that are personal. Basically, if the judge had any ties to those murdered, the judge should remove himself. This person is a "poster-boy" for the definition of insanity, and the ruling was that he was sane??!! Pretty blatent.

Not that I think he was redeemable (with today's technology) and should ever be allowed back into society (basically; death or life without possibility of parole - ever!).

But I also have to say, while that story paints a very convincing picture, it doesn't say what evidence led a judge and jury to the decision that was made. Perhaps there is some hybrid ruling in law that allows for a "criminally insane" verdict that would basically result in criminal prosecution. I don't know, but stranger things exist in U.S. law.

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http://www.serienkiller.cc/serialkiller_insight/recent_facts.htm

http://www.heritage.org/Research/SmartGrowth/wm255.cfm

hey! don`t tell me I just swallow any old rubbish or make things up with no substantiation .
my comment was based on a report I read in either Nature or New Scientist on the formative psycology and environmental effects on serial killers, if anything I was being conservative, to sumarise the article (what I recall of it) the US is an ideal breeding ground for that sort of thing, many people live alone or in isolated places, or suffer severe social isolation that can be enough to protect them for a long time, there are also large sections of the communitys where social indifference can help them to remain undetected, look at that guys history, and they still let him walk around among normal people, for example the police find a naked guy covered in someones pets blood and screaming, and from what I can make out they effectivley just sent him on his way, they should have at least done an id check and found he should have been on medication and details of his past history, he should have been hospitalised or placed into care (I know he was initialy...but they let him go again), unfortunatley in the US theres no profit in caring for people with no income, so they left him to roam around and destroy peoples lives.

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Quote: "Maybe, but judges can get disbarred for passing judgements that are personal."


In certain circumstances, even the people aware of such things may look the other way.

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Ian T,

Please remove this thread. There is no sense in this type of entertainment. It is simply sick.


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[i]Entertainment?[i]


I do not see how anyone here read it for fun.


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I thought it was interesting.



But I also read through the serial killer encyclopedia. They're very interesting to me.


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I also found it interesting. What can I say, some of us have an interest in the exploits of serial killers...

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Eric T,

This is true. I suppose there is no keeping the world away from this horror anyhow. I just hope noone is enjoying what they're reading. If so, put yourselves in the situations of the victims' lives, or the relatives of the victims. Then, see if you like it anymore.

Sorry all. I just really found this disturbing. I do not like death one bit. Though, it is a reality.


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I don't think anyone is 'enjoying' those articles.


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I enjoyed it.

I find it fascinating what a person is capable of if brought up incorrectly, which is what appears to have happened here.

I think this is clearly a failure of 'the system'. This man was involuntarliy held in a mental hospital and then released back into society when he was obviously not ready.

I know this man did some horrendous things but I can't help but feel sorry for him. He needed help and didn't get it. The 'cat on the doorstep' incident with his mother, seems like a cry for help to me, but instead of getting help, his mother just shut the door and ignored him.

Did he deserve the death penalty? ... No, nobody does. He should have got what he so clearly needed, a lot of pscyhiactric help.

If you want to blame someone, then blame the parents for his upbringing or blame the system that failed him, but don't blame him. He did what he did because his brain was not functioning as it should and when he needed help he didn't get it.

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I blame him, his mom, his friends (have any?lol), and HE DID DESERVE IT. But then, I am from the US.lol
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Quote: "I enjoyed it."


'Enjoyed' in inverted commas.


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Why do people feel the need to constantly shift the blame onto people who didn't do horrible things? I find the trend of sympathizing and pitying evil people very disturbing.

Someone that twisted and evil has to be given the death penalty. In situations like this, the risk of them escaping and attacking people again outweighs their right to life.

In the past many, many people have died because previous serial killers were given life sentance and escaped.

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Quote: "the risk of them escaping and attacking people again outweighs their right to life"

Nothing outweighs the right to 'life'. Thats just crazy talk.

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Quote: "Nothing outweighs the right to 'life'. Thats just crazy talk.
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The right to live can outweight the right to live. And when one person is a danger to many, many other people's lives, and that one person is a perverted psycopath and the other people are innocent civilians... I think it's pretty clear.

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I feel sorry for you. It's not your fault though, you were brought up in a nation that brainwashes it's population.

Here is a man that clearly needed major mental help and all you think is .... KILL!!!

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Quote: "Here is a man that clearly needed major mental help and all you think is .... KILL!!!"


And he needs mental help more than the people he could kill need to live?

I'm hardly the right person to pick on for brainwashing either, seeing as I don't pay attention to the news media or attend public school

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If he were to have received mental help it would obviously have been in a very secure environment and therefore nobody would have been killed.

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Prisinors escape from those secure enviornments every day.

I agree that if one day we achieve complete safety in holding enviornments, and a virtually infallible way of testing for what you can "mental health", the death sentance should be abolished. But only then.

Another problem I have with your viewpoint is that you seem to think that people who do bad things are "broken" and can be "fixed". I really don't think the human mind that simple - but, hey, brainwashed into doing good things, while a very twisted practice, is better than being an evil psycopath, or being dead. So in those cases I wouldn't object.

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I believe in this case, the man in question could have been helped. The text says that he was given pscyotropic drugs to help him and they were working but his mother stopped them.

So, yes, in ths case he could have been 'fixed'.

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Quote: "The right to live can outweight the right to live
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No offense, but your logic to me seems like machine logic, it lacks humanity. If he wasn't mentally unstable and he had no regard for human life, then I wouldn't be against his execution(because he obviously wouldn't care). However, if its something he couldn't help doing then I feel the death pentalty was the wrong option. You can't punish someone from suffering from mental instability. I don't believe in a life for a life unless its under the same intention.

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You do have a point.

Anyway, I think something we can all agree on is that high security prisons need better security. That would make everybody happy.

Except the serial killers.

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It would make you happy ... then you would have a point worth argueing.

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Now really, did that accomplish anything ?

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Personaly I'm all for denial of right to life...at least to within the region of that country.
Human Rights are unfortunatly named human rights, they are priviledges...we (most of us I assume) are priviledged to live in areas where we are so protected...Richard Chase's actions denied his victims their right to life showing he has no regard to rights...in my opinion he should lose the same rights himself.
Maybe death penalty is extreme but half these nutcases get put in institutions where they have a better standard of life than many totaly innocent people, which in my mind is just an extra insult to the victim's and their families.
But thats my opinion anyway ! on with the debate !

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