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CBStudios
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 09:23
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I have searched for a link to it but all the links seem to be dead. Anyone mind posting up another link including the patches and such? The freeware edition
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Sunflash
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Yes! This would be VERY nice!

When FPSC develops enough, lets make a Redwall game!

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CBStudios
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 18:57
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Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezze
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himynameisali
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 19:00 Edited at: 14th Dec 2005 19:02
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No.

Get your hair cut.

*whispers* I'm only joking, grow it, grow it as long as you possibly can! That's what I'm doing .


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CBStudios
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 19:11
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It's in a transition state

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CBStudios
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 19:24
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Right, but someone surely has the free edition that can upload it or email it to me and then I can put on server
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Les Horribres
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 20:21
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yep... free ware for $2000

Pay now, get free!

It will take me some time to upload, as both hosts are down (okay, one had a recent signee who deleted it on one, [it was a FILE HOST not a free for all delete it all]))

I know at least one of you have it.
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CBStudios
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 20:39
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If you need a place to upload it contact me on MSN
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Les Horribres
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Not that, just that I don't like uploading... asking some people to upload to file front, which would be better then the original host (download limit) the second host is gone, but the site was dead anyways. And Templar should upload this as well, so many people ask for it, and few ever deliver.
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CBStudios
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 21:08 Edited at: 14th Dec 2005 21:09
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ok, If your people need to upload lemme know, I only get 10TB of traffic a month plus I have like 5 servers so space and bandwidth Is not a concern for me
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Les Horribres
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 21:37
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CBStudios
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Thanks so much, I am gonna upload to my server so that way it will always have a home
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Les Horribres
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 00:32
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Do that, this is asked so OFTEN

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Posted: 19th Dec 2005 06:27
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Quote...

TREEmagik is Copyright © 2002 by Ronnie Smith - viszer.addr.com

All media and resources contained within are also Copyright © 2002 of Ronnie Smith - viszero.addr.com or of their respective owners.

You are entitled to use this program as long as your manner does not breech
the contract here upon.

1) Media produced by this application cannot be used within Media package
kits or bundles.

2) Express written consent to use media produced by this application for manners
not outlined in the 'agreement' will be required.

3) The end-user understands this is a single license application - project managers
take sole responsibility for the license agreement placed upon this application.

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Ok doesnt this mean you cant sell your Games using this software...?

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no i think it only meens that if you use Treemagic you just cant sell the models alone. i think you can still use them in a commercial game

- The trick to level design is leave you real life behind... follow your imagination in a winding path threw fiction.
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Really...

Thats very nice of them...

Hmmmm...

me thinks I will give to the community too...

As Always B3D....www.fnggames.com

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Now if i could just get it to export to .x correctly.

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Hey, I bought Treemagik G2 from TGC, and I couldn't get hold of Aliencodec for updates, and when I found out that they were being bought by TGC, I emailed TGC about Treemagik updates, and they told me that people who bought G2 from them will get updates to G3 for FREE!! This is amazing! I can't wait! G3 is the best tree making program out there, and it's REALLY cheep!

They also said that the free upgade thing also goes for those that bought Plantlife!

Does anyone know if Treemagik G3 works any better in FPSC then G2? Wouldn't it be awesome if TGC made an FPSC compatible version of Treemagik? So when you exported the tree and texture will be FPSC ready Thats just a dream, but they probably wouldn't get enough sales to do that. All I would really need is the texture to be in ONE image, not the leaves and the trunk textures to be seperate. That makes it alot harder. Oh well.

Another thing that could be made better on Treemagik is the fact that you can't make very tall trees. I would like some VERY tall trees for a thick pine forest. Thats another thing! Pine trees! lol, I'm getting carried away... I drank to much Mountain Dew, I'm sooooo hyper right now... I gotta end this.... bye all!
-Sunflash

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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 02:57
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well adding the trees to fpsc is easy anyway


i got like 20 trees now


http://fps-files.net
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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 03:29 Edited at: 20th Dec 2005 03:30
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wow

Useing Treemagik G2?
Do you do it useing that long process of making the leaves, but making the trunk REALLY skinny, then take off the leaves, but leave the trunk, then use both the models, and line them up to each other in FPSC? Thats a bit unprofessional for me. I would like to be able to make the tree into ONE model, and not have to use two different models. But thats just me

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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 04:46
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i dont use 2 different mdoels :/


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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 06:41 Edited at: 20th Dec 2005 06:42
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Then what do you do?

P.S. And just to be clear, do you use Treemagik?

When FPSC develops enough, lets make a Redwall game!

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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 07:05 Edited at: 20th Dec 2005 07:05
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yes

im able to use 2 textures for a tree

best thing to do is

after exporting the .x file of a tree

make the textures a .tga file

then open the .x file in notepad


and where the original image names are , put the mas the .tga file you saved them as

so basically , ive ben able to assign 2 textures to it


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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 07:28 Edited at: 20th Dec 2005 07:34
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What version of Treemagik do you use? I mean, Treemagik G2, G3, Classic, Plus, or just plain Treemagik? Because I can't find anywhere that it asks for a texture file in my .x file.


EDIT: Oops, sorry, I'm tired, I missed the filenames RIGHT at the top of the .x file. So yes, I can see where the .x file asks for the images. But how can I make the two images into ONE .tga image and avoid the tileing problems?

When FPSC develops enough, lets make a Redwall game!

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Mr Love
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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 09:16
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You dont need Treemagik! The World is too small anyway for trees..
Yes I agree with most people here, the world shourld be bigger!


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TeMpLaR1
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you dont need to


just change the .jpg ones to .tga ones

its something i did with the .fpe file for it to work


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Posted: 20th Dec 2005 16:29
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Love, have you made a full game yet? Until the engine can HANDLE large levels, asking for them won't do anything.

Here is a question, if DBP runs off of Direct X engine, why can't it just use .x instead of converting to .dbo? Too many types of .x

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Quote: "you dont need to


just change the .jpg ones to .tga ones

its something i did with the .fpe file for it to work"


Ok, that was confusing. So, you want me to change all the .jpg files into .tga files, then change the file extensions in the .x file so that it will find the textures properly. But what was that about the .fpe file? Take a look at this screenshot I took. I didn't have to specify ANY texture at all in the .fpe file, but since the .x file tells a texture to be placed at cretain points, it does that properly!

Only problem is, I thought black was transparent in FPSC. I would REALLY like the rules on getting black to NOT being visible. I could use that REALLY bad.

Anyways, Thanks for your help TeMpLaR1!
When are you going to add a tutorial section on your downloads page?
talk to you letter,
-Sunflash

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Posted: 21st Dec 2005 00:58
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well , the .fpe file just needs to be included , bascially all i ment about it

so yeah , after you changed from .jpg to .tga , it will work , obviosily did

and i have a few tutorials already up on FPSC , written by people in this forum


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Quote: "the .fpe file just needs to be included"


Included in what?

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I think I'm just gonna get XFrog for all my plantlife.

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hmm, I think I'll look into XFrog, but I will probably just wait till TGC starts selling the Alien Codec products, then I'll buy Plantlife and upgrade my Treemagik G2 to G3

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Yeah XFrog is a bit pricey ($300-$400), depending on whether or not you want the animation package with it (XTune). They used it to make a few trees in the new War of the Worlds.

-Keith

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Posted: 21st Dec 2005 05:54 Edited at: 21st Dec 2005 16:22
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wow, how did they get those trees in Terragen? Thats what I've been trying to do for years! And that fog! How do they do that?

Hmm, I would rather buy Treemagik G3, it looks about as nice... well, maybe not as nice, but it's perfect for computer games. It's way better then any of the previous versions of Tremagik

But wow, those trees in Terragen. Maybe I'll email them

EDIT: Oh I see, they used Terragen 2... cheeze...

EDIT: Hmm, XFrog would be good, but I would want to see a demo. I like to know what I'm getting. But if you do get it, don't forget us! We could always use some trees here!
Man, it would be nice to be able to put some of thos trees into Terragen. Wow. DO that and take some good screenshots and you've got a sellable picture. Frame it and you could get some nice cash! Then make a collection of all your pics, and make a screensaver! Now that would be fun!
Anyways, I probably should go, cya
Thanks for mentioning XFrog to us Keith
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Quote: "you dont need to

just change the .jpg ones to .tga ones

its something i did with the .fpe file for it to work"


Redundant, FPSC can use

BMP
JPG
PNG
TGA

and a few others, it just converts it to DDS.

TGA has several different formats, and some set black up as the alpha channel, others don't. PNG is naturally transparent (white), and MS-Paint has the format.

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yes but .jpg's cant use alhpa channels

why i said to use .tga

unless yo uwant the the tree to have big blobs of black on it


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Yeah, the .PNG texture is the one that has black all around the leaves.

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uhh
noo
PNG is transparent, allways

TGA has diffrent formats, so it sometimes is black, and sometimes is transparent.

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Well NONE of my .PNG files have made the BLACK transparent. But what .TGA format is the one that is transparent?

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Ok, I'm tired of waitin
Templar, would you be able to email me a tree so I can see how it's done? That would make it easier

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white is transparnt...

I think...


And Some Photoshops save as good TGA, others don't.

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Quote: "white is transparnt..."


Well there enlies the problem
The texture dosn't have any white in it. It's all black.

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uhh
That little paint bucket in MS-Paint. I think Photo-Shop has a color replacement too.

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i can make them transparent if you like



way i did it was in adobe photoshop , i was able to remove all the black

then I saved it as a .dds


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Quote: "way i did it was in adobe photoshop , i was able to remove all the black

then I saved it as a .dds"


Well, I would like to mass produce trees. So I can't really give you every tree texture I ever make

Quote: "That little paint bucket in MS-Paint"


In this case that dosn't help. And I don't have Adobe Phototshop. I have the demo, and maybe that will work, I'll test.

EDIT: Um... Merrenvo, how can I find that color manager? Photoshop is a very expansive program
Thanks again for all the suggestions!

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wasnt expensive for me


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I could never get it right, but I have an old version of elements. (Came with scanner)

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Quote: "wasnt expensive for me"


Expansive, not "expensive"

Quote: "I could never get it right, but I have an old version of elements. (Came with scanner)"


Oh, I think I have that somwhere around here

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ummm no

im afraid i spelt it right

ex·pen·sive Pronunciation (k-spnsv)
adj.
1. Requiring a large expenditure; costly.
2. Marked by high prices: expensive stores.

ex·pan·sive Pronunciation (k-spnsv)
adj.
1. Capable of expanding or tending to expand.
2. Broad in size or extent; comprehensive: expansive police powers.
3. Open and communicative; talkative or effusive: Wine made the guest expansive.
4. Grand in scale: an expansive lifestyle.


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