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FPSC Classic Product Chat / whoooohooooo!!! i'm going commercial!

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Posted: 17th Dec 2005 19:22 Edited at: 17th Dec 2005 19:40
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WHOOOHOOO!!! I'm actually going commercial next year with a game created with FPSC!!

I'm going to be rich!! RICH!!

I'm getting 3% of the income!!

Est: $ 20.000 minimum
Est: $ 60.000 maximum

hehehe....


I urge you all to:

1. take a chance and show your game to a distributor.
2. If you are lucky, you should do everything in your power to make the game as good as it can get!

Good luck to ya all!!

Merry Xmas!!

John,
Lead programmer and spokesman
Diztanze Productions


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Please exscuse my *BAD* english...

EDIT:

Edited some wrong words... hehe...

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Well, congrats! But you'll have to have ALOT of custom/non-FPSC media.

Are you about to rock?

Then [b]I SALUTE YOU!!!
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Already have it!!




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i have searching for a distributor since day 1 of ea and i have been in indie game design for 5 years

and all my media in fpsc is custom

i am also an active tge indie developer

and i am yet to get my game in to the shops

so you must have some magic secret up your sleve care to share with us non commercial indie game developer?
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Quote: "so you must have some magic secret up your sleve care to share with us non commercial indie game developer? "



W T F ? ? !

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Why are you always crying crow34 if someone does game faster than you?

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@ Crow34: Try Garagegames before EA games!



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@ Nigezu: You're from "Suomi"/Finland Right?!

Cool, I'm from norway!!

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well if your going commercial i mean no offensive i would just like some friendly advice on how you achieved this?

some advice on content screenshots maybe

bit more info

would be much appreciated




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least i can finish a game nigezu not like the 400 billion projects your doing
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aaah garagegames mmm every thing becomes clear

good luck i wish you every success

quick question i thought garagegames only published via tge and your game had to work on mac osx as well

have they changed there policy?
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Quote: "aaah garagegames mmm every thing becomes clear

good luck i wish you every success

quick question i thought garagegames only published via tge and your game had to work on mac osx as well

have they changed there policy? "


Garagegames is NOT my distributor!!

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there: http://www.gameboomers.com/gamepublishers.html

Good luck Crow34!

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Um, 3% won't make you rich...

And when he said EA, he mean't FPSC EA, not the piece of ****ing **** called electronic arts. If you work at EA, no offense to you, just the way and quality they make games.


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@Origin, no offense but what makes you think anyone would buy your game? You said you're getting 3%, that's not much but you think you'd actually earn about an average of 40.000 do you actually know how much you've got to sell then

Let's calculate this: You would sell a game for about 20, you get 3% each game. That's 0.6 each game. But you would like to earn yourself 40.000. So 40.000/0.6= 66.666. There you go... sell about 65.000 games and you got yourself a good income, but isn't that amount a bit to high. If you can accomplish it, than good for you.
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All rise to the honorable orgin...
Our one true creator, our one true god...

Enlighen us with the meaning of life, oh dear origin.

Well this is one game, made with fpsc, that actually made it... "somewhere"
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Quote: "@Origin, no offense but what makes you think anyone would buy your game? You said you're getting 3%, that's not much but you think you'd actually earn about an average of 40.000 do you actually know how much you've got to sell then

Let's calculate this: You would sell a game for about 20, you get 3% each game. That's 0.6 each game. But you would like to earn yourself 40.000. So 40.000/0.6= 66.666. There you go... sell about 65.000 games and you got yourself a good income, but isn't that amount a bit to high. If you can accomplish it, than good for you. "



I don't care if people don't buy the game!!
I'll just have the publisher sell it to some shops!!
And I'll have money!!


hahahahahah....
I'm so happy with my evil plan!!



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i envy you origin! congratz...but as for me im never gonna be able to finish a game till riker 9 comes out ya know what i mean?

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I can get speeds of 30 stable in FPSC, that isn't hard. Of course without enemys. Heck, I have over 250 entitys atm, 80 lights, and a heck of a lot of segments. And still keep a good frame rate. A few slowdowns because FPSC can't handle windows or doors, but over all good frame rate.
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Quote: "
I'm going to be rich!! RICH!!

I'm getting 3% of the income!!

Est: $ 20.000 minimum
Est: $ 60.000 maximum

hehehe...."


Make sure it spells out Twenty Thousand Dollars as that minimum.
Otherwise, using that decimal point instead of a comma means that $20.000 is really Twenty Dollars.


Quote: "hahahahahah....
I'm so happy with my evil plan!!"

Yeah, congrats.
I bet you're not as happy as that middle man who's getting the 97%.

Do yourselves a favor and distribute your games yourself as a download off your website.
Keep 100% if you do your own advertising.
Well about 85%, after you subtract for PayPal and Hosting Fees.





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Get a hosting plan here.

http://www.akohosting.com/get_started/hosting.htm
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It still makes no sense though, there must be other people that already did this kind of fraude. Cos that's what it is actually. So shops should be protected against that already
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[/quote]
Quote: "Yeah, congrats.
I bet you\'re not as happy as that middle man who\'s getting the 97%.

Do yourselves a favor and distribute your games yourself as a download off your website.
Keep 100% if you do your own advertising.
Well about 85%, after you subtract for PayPal and Hosting Fees.





muhahahahahumbug
"


Good idea Conjured!
Anyone got some kinda template for a Webshop or some sh** in that street?

Thanks,
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Quote: "i envy you origin! congratz...but as for me im never gonna be able to finish a game till riker 9 comes out ya know what i mean?"


Thinking of saving and loading?

I ALREADY GOT IT!


As an .EXE file... and a DBpro but, I didn't compile it... I don't have the DBpro enhancement pack you see...


Well, anyway thanks!

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I need Save and Load. If I pay You half the prize of what the DBpro enhancement pack cost (400 kronor), can I have the patch then?
Good for both...


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not so much save and load but yes i wish i had it. its more over the ideas run thru my mind include having bunches and bunches of High poly enemys (and of course i already have them) and i cant complete a game that runs only about 18 fps. so i need riker 9's fps update lol.

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origin what is with all the !!! calm down
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Quote: "I need Save and Load. If I pay You half the prize of what the DBpro enhancement pack cost (400 kronor), can I have the patch then?
Good for both..."



@ Mr. love: I'll be releasing this patch after newyear! as a late christmas gift...

Marry Xmas everone!

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How do you protect your game. please tell my ?
If you dont need db ep save and load is it just a vb6 program or what. And 3 % normaly you get 15%-35% .

pc. Cpu: 3000 amd xp+ ram 2gb
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Quote: "How do you protect your game. please tell my ?
If you dont need db ep save and load is it just a vb6 program or what. And 3 % normaly you get 15%-35% .

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FPS pack!

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we have talks with Eidos and microsoft from last years e3 visit about our Mafia online game, but you dont see us bragging

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300 views, thats good.

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Quote: "I'm getting 3% of the income!! "


So someone is making over $660.000 from your game and you're only getting $20.000. That sounds like someone is ripping you off big time. I have yet to meet a publisher that only gives you 3% royalties from your own game.

Somehow, I really don't believe this deal, until you show some evidence. We've had a number of people claiming stuff like this and it all turned out to be a hoax.

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! YEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess!!!!! You are the MAAAAN! Im so happy! You are the greatest! Well, it really took a Scandinavian to do the JOB!!!

Hey Origin, Good Luck with Your game... Now it will be soooo fun to work with the project I am working on right now..

Thanks Man!

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Fps pack , hello it is not wise to put your game on a retail market and protecting your game fps pack And folk how buy your game must have .zip program on there computer. And if you have custom media you won't see it only in your game. if i were you i would ask the
publisher for a good program or make your one .It's easy just use vb6 or delphi. And one last work i don't hate fps-pack it's a great program and it's free.

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No Probs! There are proffessional installers that can protect His files. They dosnt cost so mutch to buy..


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Quote: "It's easy just use vb6 or delphi"


Where can I get vb6 or delphi??

Thanks..!

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I have one question.. Origin, How old are you? No offense but I've worked as a lead artist in the games industry for years... And there's a few things I have learned with age...

#1 - You never get "rich". Sorry man, but unless it's the next AAA title for xbox360 I'd be glad to just break even! And even the AAA titles need to worry about this. Look at Stainless Steel Studios, developer of Age of Empires, I had lots of good buddies there, and they just went belly up 2 months ago.

#2 - Read your Contracts!!!!!! Read EVERYTHING! Trust me on this! I have been offered a couple gigs here and there for publishing. Make sure they are reliable! Nothing feels worse than having slaved 3 years away on something only to gain pennies in return. They may even take control of the rights to your IP once you do sign. You could find your games sequel is being produced by some other team somewhere and you have no control whatsoever. It happens all the time.
I offer you my congrats but please be careful,
don't let your excitment get the best of you.
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Can we see some screenshots of your game? I'd like to see how good it looks so I can see how much more skill I need before I go commercial *thinks about looking for some modeling courses for college*

When FPSC develops enough, lets make a Redwall game!

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This is funny. At last count, my Load/Save was over 500 lines long, and I had to change almost 2500 lines of the Entities list to save the states, positions, etc and I'm still not ready to release it.

I would like to see how your "Patch" works.

I have my doubts since I have been working on the code for 2 months now and have a direct contact with the people who made FPSC.

But you never know...

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The best way of getting a copy of vb6 is to find it at ebay. But if You are lucky You can find one for free on the Internet..
Why dont You use a professional installer instead?


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I'm skeptical of this thread after reading it all. To me it seems like Origin is some young kid that had an idea of emailing a publisher about a game he created/will create, and they actually emailed him back. Once he got the email he was so excited that he started going crazy customizing his game and getting it ready.

It can also be assumed that whatever publisher he emailed must be really hard up for cash by taking 97% of the profits. Definetly not someone good to do business with.

Good luck with your game!

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I agree with previous. I have a real problem seeing someone going commercial with a FPSC game. Especially since the size of FPSC games are supersized. Create a good 2d game instead. It has a bigger chance going gold.
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i dont see a problem..........many companies take new contracts and offer a low percentage,many famous pop stars get a very low percentage of sales and so start lines in clothing and perfumes and stuff to try to get more money.
maybe he should have tried bartering but $20,000 for making a game in fpsc was good i thought.
i do have a question though so i can keep an eye out....whats the name of the game the publisher is taking on,does the publisher know it was written in fpsc and that could effect sales.
how about a couple of screenies to show us.

anyway...good luck, it would actually be nice to see this peice of software ( fpsc) live up to its hype as ive had my doughts.

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Quote: "I have one question.. Origin, How old are you? No offense but I've worked as a lead artist in the games industry for years... And there's a few things I have learned with age...

#1 - You never get "rich". Sorry man, but unless it's the next AAA title for xbox360 I'd be glad to just break even! And even the AAA titles need to worry about this. Look at Stainless Steel Studios, developer of Age of Empires, I had lots of good buddies there, and they just went belly up 2 months ago.

#2 - Read your Contracts!!!!!! Read EVERYTHING! Trust me on this! I have been offered a couple gigs here and there for publishing. Make sure they are reliable! Nothing feels worse than having slaved 3 years away on something only to gain pennies in return. They may even take control of the rights to your IP once you do sign. You could find your games sequel is being produced by some other team somewhere and you have no control whatsoever. It happens all the time.
I offer you my congrats but please be careful,
don't let your excitment get the best of you.
- Jim
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Hi, Jim...!

So you want to kow how old I am?
I'm 26 years old.

To comment #1:

When I said rich I just said it for the crowd...

To comment #2:

I have hired a lawyer to look at the contract.


@CellBlock studios:

Hi, my code has become 15000(!) lines longer because of the Save/Load Script, and it is Just the first build.
The code have some bugs that we are working on right now.
I'm looking forward to riker 9! If Riker 9 have better Saving and loading than my patch then maybye I'll use it!
If that is the case, then you will be included in the credits for the game!

Marry Xmas to you all,
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Umm, could we pleeeeze see some screenys? maybe a demo or two?

When FPSC develops enough, lets make a Redwall game!

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hi and congratz,

i still think that 3% is very low what about the interlectual propertie right issue, you say you have custom media, and you are going to let your publisher profit from your efforts at 3%??????

well if it all true, and i hope for you it is can you do some custom characters for me and i will give you a lump sum for the work and 5% net profits

oh yer are you being paid net or gross?
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@origin
congratulations and good luck!
i can't wait to see and buy(!) a commercial and successful fpsc-game in the shops. if your dream comes true, then i bought the right engine to develop my games.

besides: i am a musician and if a record company would promise me to make $ 200.000 with a completely finished and obviously very good album from me then i would never sign a 3%-contract.
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OK, I hear you all!

I think I will discuss the contract with the publisher and my lawyer, because I agree, 3% is a low income...

I really want to sell the game myself, but i don't have time or money to make a website and a webshop system...

Suggetions are GOLDEN today!

Thanks,
Origin

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@Sunflash:
Do you want to do some testing for me?

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I'll do some testing!

And about selling it yourself, I can make web sites, web stores, and have some web space (free!!!), the only problem with any selling it themselves iis that a publisher send it to EB Games, Gamestop, all those game stores, when you do it yourself, you don't.


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Hmmmm... Paypal has a very good little tool to make a web shop system, and if you contact TeMpLaR1, he might be able to help you with the website.

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