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Geek Culture / Techy question, RAM files?

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Kangaroo2
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Posted: 21st Mar 2003 01:38 Edited at: 21st Mar 2003 01:52
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Hey

Basically there is a RAM (video) file on a BBC site which I would really like to download and keep for prosperities sakes - is there any software or method to do this, other than output it through my grfx card to my vcr, record it, then play it back and capture it on my tv card?

I don't know how RAM files work exactly, but it seems they just offer a link to a stream so just downloading the actual *.ram does no good at all. I have tried looking in My temporary files also and cannot see any form of file stroed there. If I am wrong on this some1 help me out please!

I searched on Google and it appears such software exists but Real is trying to quash all links to it I can understand why, but in this instance its a shame, as the file I want is hardly ripping anybody off, its just the Dannii Minogue interview where she answered my question I just want it so I can watch it again in the future, I don't wanna distribute it or anything... its not available for sale anywhere and I doubt the BBC would bother sending me a video for free either

Anyway any suggestions welcome Thanks

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Posted: 21st Mar 2003 01:55
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Search the net for "Streambox VCR". I tried an early version and it worked quite well. Was a bit slow, though.

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Rob K
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Posted: 21st Mar 2003 01:55
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Just use a screen capture program which allows you to define a screen region to capture.

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Oraculaca
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Posted: 21st Mar 2003 12:31
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Quote: "I just want it so I can watch it again in the future"


HEHE

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MrTAToad
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Posted: 21st Mar 2003 13:27 Edited at: 21st Mar 2003 13:30
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You could unlink RAM files from RealPlayer, and try and download as a normal file. I think the BBC stop that kind of thing though...

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Kangaroo2
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2003 02:45
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Dibbler - roflmao Um no not quite - not on that video anyways Useful site tho thanx, I'll prolly run out soon lol
Toad - Thanks I tried that and as you suspected there are measures against it
RobK - Thanks, but the sound is more important than the visuals in this sense
Empty - Thanks, thats what I have been trying to track down - many broken links tho. I'll keep searching, and as a last resort, try Kazaa too

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2003 22:01
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I hate trying to use any media files from the BBC - its a slow as anything and usually not very good...

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Rob K
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Posted: 23rd Mar 2003 23:14
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Why the hell do the BBC use Realmedia? It is slow, inefficient, buggy and has an annoying systray app. Considering the only competition they face is the OK, but not brilliant Windows Media Player they should at least be able to come up with something as good.

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2003 23:21
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for screambox vcr try
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/audio_software/audio_tools/streambox_vcr.cfm

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MrTAToad
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I know, RealPlayer is very annoying. I certainly prefer Windows Media Player...

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Hey thanx man - that got it!

And yes I hate realplayer - many of my pcs seem to crash with it anyway - I always keep it uninstalled until every now and again I am forced to use it.

I would hazard a guess that the reason many companies use Real Player is that they are in affiliate payout deals. I may be wrong but I know that they do offer one.

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Do they now? Interesting...

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I have tried many things, including capturing screen, without great success, but I have accidentally found a neat way to save ram files on the disk and watch them offline at will:

Copy the URL address of the ram file, open Windows Media Player, select Open URL in File menu and paste the address and wait till the buffering is complete. WMP will act quite stupidly. It won't actually be able to play the file but will let you save the file in a .rm format on an other hand, which is a physical file you can chew on. If you double click on that file, RealPlayer will play it even offline.

I have tried to convert the file from .rm to .avi with rm converter but the file size increased by ten times with slight compromise on quality.

Hope that helps.

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Kangaroo2
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2003 04:50
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Thanks I already managed it with Streambox, but thats worth knowing

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