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Lazlazlaz 1
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Posted: 23rd Jun 2006 18:18 Edited at: 23rd Jun 2006 18:45
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edit: ignore

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Syncaidius
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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 17:14 Edited at: 24th Jun 2006 17:15
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Can I use 3rd party commands in my DarkAI entry, such as Cloggy's D3DFunc dll?

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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 17:56
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Yes you can.

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Syncaidius
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yay, thanks Rich!

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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 20:14 Edited at: 26th Jun 2006 20:15
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Just because im called the one noob to rule them all doesnt mean you have to ignore me...

I will ask again...

"What about shaders? I dont think that .fx shaders can be inside the .exe. So can we use them?"

Edit "31st of July 2006" That would end on midnight UK time right?
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Quote: "What about shaders?"


What about them? Why would we outlaw a feature of DBPro that we encourage use of? No one said all of your files have to be inside a single EXE.

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i finally got 3dws, so i made a quick level; now all i need to do is program the AI.
currently the entry is 20megs zipped. that could be a problem..
i guess i won't use any lightmap, nor will i use the extra objects i wanted to add. hmm..



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Chris Franklin
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Just curious Rich...

I ordered the darkphysics bundle today am i going to have enough time to enter if i send the cheque on monday?

(Sorry to go offtopic)

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I wonder if anyone will actually create anything

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I will when i get darkai

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2006 10:49
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@Kenjar: I've been working on my entry for the last 5 days.

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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 15:06 Edited at: 8th Jul 2006 15:09
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I plan on an entry. I'm buying Dark AI for it but I'm not sure how long it will take me. It all depends on the learning curve.

[edit] @scraggle - I would love to see a dark physics compo. Don't know if a dark lights compo would really have much flavor though.

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I should be getting my copy of Dark A.I in the next couple of days, so I think I'm gonna have a go at this.

My first TGC compo woohoo!

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 00:47 Edited at: 10th Jul 2006 00:47
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Its probably too late now but the Platformer competition seems to be attracting a lot of attention, and seeing as Physics/A.I can be an important part of Platformer's, maybe it would be a good idea to combine the two competitions? There's a few prizes already submitted for the platformer, and having a game theme to base the entry on would help in both the voting and creation stages. Its easier to compare two platformers instead of comparing an FPS and a racing game, it's easier to focus on story and graphical elements when the theme for the game is already chosen).

Then again... my ideas are usually stupid.

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@ RUCCUS

I agree having a specific genre of game would make it easier in voting, but then again from what I can make of it, it is the best use of Dark A.I that each game will be judged on.

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Quote: "I would love to see a dark physics compo."


I would like to see that to...

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So hows everybody's entries coming along?

I ask not just out of interest but also to stop this thread disapearing into the darkness.

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i don't think i have time to finish my entry. unless it's fun to kill cubes.

my entry will definetly not be something special though, if i actually do get something done.

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I don't think anybodys entry will be visualy special due to the limit on file size, just as long as the a.i implementation is good.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2006 23:15 Edited at: 13th Jul 2006 12:47
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Quote: "Its probably too late now but the Platformer competition seems to be attracting a lot of attention, and seeing as Physics/A.I can be an important part of Platformer's, maybe it would be a good idea to combine the two competitions? "


That would be great

Now for rich's word on it

*prepares entry*


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Posted: 12th Jul 2006 23:48
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If that was given the go ahead that would mean I have wasted three virtualy sleepless nights

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Posted: 13th Jul 2006 00:05 Edited at: 13th Jul 2006 12:47
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Quote: "If that was given the go ahead that would mean I have wasted three virtualy sleepless nights "

Nah just some of it.
Adjust a few pieces of code and positionins then ya done

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Posted: 14th Jul 2006 12:24 Edited at: 14th Jul 2006 12:26
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Quote: "If that was given the go ahead that would mean I have wasted three virtualy sleepless nights"


Well I will have wasted 8 sleepless nights if they gave the go ahead to combine the two competitions.

I'd prefer it if it was left as it is now. If people dont want to bother entering this competition, its up to them, but I think its a damn good one (and an easy one).

&Rich: please DON'T combine the two competitions, I really dont think my RTS entry could be converted to a platform game easily (without restarting from scratch, obviously).

Edit: All this competition needs is an extra 2 weeks on the deadline. Say, 20th August 2006, that would give people plenty of time to complete their entries.

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I have no intention at all of combining the two competitions. The Dark AI is a TGC compo, the platform one is not.

I would consider a deadline increase though if enough people need it.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2006 13:10 Edited at: 14th Jul 2006 13:15
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Quote: "I have no intention at all of combining the two competitions. The Dark AI is a TGC compo, the platform one is not."


Thanks for clearing that up Rich.

Quote: "I would consider a deadline increase though if enough people need it."


I could really use that extra 2 weeks, I've restarted my RTS, DarkAI entry and added some new stuff to it, it's really got a long way to go yet as it is only 6MB including the EXE and media.

So far, DarkAI handles RTS units without any pathfinding problems, although sometimes if one unit gets in the way of another, it tends to strafe (which does not look good for a tank) even though the AI Set Entity Can Strafe perameter is set to zero. Im working on a piece of code to create a path to send the unit around the unit which is blocking it at the moment.

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A deadline increase would be most appreciated, since a sudden surge of people bought darkai for the contest just this past week. 3 weeks just isn't quite enough for a decent ai showcase when you stil have to learn dark ai.(especially with many people wanting to make an rts)

I myself don't think I can finish by the deadline as is.

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@Rich

Who will be judging this, the cummunity or TGS staff, and if its judged by TGC whats the judging criteria

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Quote: "Who will be judging this, the cummunity or TGS staff, and if its judged by TGC whats the judging criteria"


Depends how many entries there are. I'm quite happy to give an extension to the deadline. I will revise my first post in this thread with the new date now.

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rofl, the new deadline is on my birthday. hehe.

Thanks alot! That should be more than enough time to finish and get some decent media shaped up.

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Great I didnt know how much I can add with the old datline since I just started yesterday but with the new date Im bound to add a lot more to my program and hopefully make better models for it as well.

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w00t thanks for the new deadline rich

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woohoo a new deadline!!!

That means I dont have to ruch now, thanks again Rich!

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i need some more ram now this 2k odd res heightmap (it's 12mb)Just crashes dbp and closes even tho it's in a loop

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with the deadline expanded, and me getting the filesize reduced from 30mb to 13mb (zipped) i just might start working on this again

i have some stuff that needs to be done with the game engine, and then i can start on the AI.

for some odd reason, after installing U6.2b newton decides to spin the player around and i can't move. i'll look into this first.

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@Chris - a 12Mb file should be no problems for DBP. I've loaded up DDS files which are MUCH larger than that. Just increases the loading time.

What file format are you using?

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anybody got any far yet?
i have just started to work on the ai part of my entry.
that's all i have left

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Quote: "i need some more ram now this 2k odd res heightmap (it's 12mb)Just crashes dbp and closes even tho it's in a loop"


That's 4.2 million grid sqaures, or 8.4 million polys. I would suggest the problem is your design, not DB Pro or your PC.



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Yeah Chris, you can just use a much smaller heightmap and scale it up. A good texture is always better than millions of polygons.


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so with the rules, i can use the dark matter models is this contest, and could i still enter the contest with 32 days to the closing date?
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Quote: "so with the rules, i can use the dark matter models is this contest, and could i still enter the contest with 32 days to the closing date?"


DarkMATTER models = yes.

As for the closing date, I don't care when you start your game, I only care about what you submit.

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So we need to upload to this thread or in the new DARK AI forum?

How long will be given for judging purposes, if the winners are to be included in the September issue of the Newsletter?
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simwad - I have changed the original very first post in this thread to cover 'how to upload', etc. Please see that for answers to your questions.

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Just above the Rules section, you still have a reference to the September newsletter



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you guys are so funny i was just looking at these posts and i thought i knew stuff lol im messing with DB and i dont get how do i know the cordinates of my screen so i can make a floor matrix for my chars to walk on i know this isnt the place to ask about this but if u know the answer plz tell[img]null[/img]

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when i said the cordinates what does stuff like 1.00000.0000 mean on the matrix thing plz give me soem pointers on the wire frame thing any help will be much apreciated

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JavaLover, please post in your own thread, in the Newcomers Forum. Every thread has a topic, and this one isn't matrix coordinates!



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give me free dark AI and i will kick it in 5 days!

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Has anyone got anything to show for this compo? I've started a WIP thread for my efforts...

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Yup yup, i started yesterday though so I think mine will just be a presentation of a cube
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I entered mine but it was just a few cubes but I hope they wont look at it visualy and look at the ai but mine was simple anyway

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