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John H
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Hey, we have changed our story, and to accomodate with that, I have made a new island village. The buildings arent textured, but oh well They will be! This will be the island featured in the Tech Demo. Includeding the following....

-Full Sliding Collision
-Item Shop
-Inn
-Weapon Shop
-Armor Shop
-Menu System
-Dialog System
-Character Interaction
-More......

Hope you like

Shot 1:


Shot 2:


We are running at about 40 FPS (those shots are a little off) which is surely to increase with Pro

What do you think? I hope you like

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Nice shots once you give them some textures they will look great.

40fps not bad.

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Oh yes I cant wait Yea I am expecting a much higher rate with Pro, not to mention I need to revamp the engine a litt;e

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Great news everyone The two small houses have been textured and they look SUPERB Just thought I'd let you know I am coding the physics right now, so we can have some collision and our dialog system (coded by Mnemonix, its awesome) and we can get this demo out!

Just thought Id let you know If you cant tell Im happy

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post some screens when you get a chance, I wanna see how the houses look.

Keep up the good progress!

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Here is the smaller house textured. No door on purpose, will be a separate animated limb



Enjoy!

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PS- Those textures were done by our new 2D guy, I hope you like them

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nice


tell the 2d guy he did a good job!

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Thanks Will do! Im sure he will appreciate it!

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Hmm, the seams look a little off, but it's still a nice texture!

Anyway, the screenshots look good - one of the few good looking matrices I've seen! Shadows for the buildings would be nice; but DBPro has native support for that, doesn't it?

Looking forward to the demo!

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Thanks We are working on it

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Great looking i must say. And the matrix is not to bad .

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Nice going! But you might want to add a closer horizon or more fog, because you can clearly see the end of the map. And as Dr Doomer said, the textures of your model are a bit off. But besides that. I like it. Keep on going.

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Hey,

Dont worry- the skysphere texture isnt a permanent one. I just slapped that one on there for some shots. Ill add in all the lighting and crap later. I have JUST got collision working, so now we just need it on all the buildings. That wont be hard though

After I finish that, Ill just set up a few UVs and while they are being textured, I can work on some fogging or maybe a shop or two Hmmm, I am thinking about adding in some seaguls as well

Thanks guys

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Seaguls. Nice touch. We cud have a mini game. Shoot the seaguls. Or dodge the seagul crap. hehe .

I am glad that we found a 2d artist who can output graphics like that. They will be most useful. Note that now our project has a concept artist. So any pictures that he develops will be posted on the ED website and probably some of them on this forum.

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nice!
thats all i got to say!!

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Yeah, very nice. Does the collision work at any angle? I've been trying to develop a system that does that well for ages.

Why the hell'd you ask me for crying out loud!?!
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Yes I just finished collision, and it works at all angles (except on that darn well, its still a box, but whatever) So that is done, and we are still working on,,,, everything. I just send Mnemonix my tech demo (not finished calm down) of the collision and island and everything. He will probably post here about it.

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Ok the demo i have just recieved of the collision matrix is truly done well. The tech demo is far from finished so dont get excited. I can walk my "sphere" round Colan island but nothing more.

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Hey theres collision too We are working on it, maybe Ill move the matrix around a little bit, and model some seaguls, then fly them around

Dunno!

What do you think?

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-is the landmass a matrix or a separate model, if it's a separate model, how did you do the collisions(sliding collisions--to walk on).

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Itsa Matrix made in Mat_Edit

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Yes Mat_edit has been producing remarkable results so far. TY TDKman

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Ah ah! Doughboys united!!! (Nice avatar )

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dough boys huh!
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Yep

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The house looks good textured, although the seams are out, and the interior window needs fiddling with a bit. The land mass and water look great! Keep it up guys

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Yep that was his first draft- not bad at all! Were moving along I try NOT to look at my little "To Do" paper because it can be discouraging at times lol Right now it consists of

UV Map item Stand
UV Map Inn Better
Code Item Shop
Code Armor Shop
Code Weapon Shop
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Make Weapons BSB
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Code Equipment
Code Unique Magic
Code Config.
Code Save
Code Day/Night

Anything else??

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I'm told the eye can't see anything past 25 fps, and in fact PAL video format is 25 fps. So 40 fps is great.

Good work!
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I learned something new.

I'll have to keep that in mind, for how far I can push things.

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that matrix what did you use to create that and that water it looks great also the grass blending into the sand towards the water
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:-s 40 FPS , well i see just 31-32 in the pics .

And there isnt even much polygones in the screenshots , terrain - sky - houses -water .
And it give you 32 FPS ?

Well , what will it give you then when you add atmosphere (rain , snow , whateven ) and more houses are needed as well as more textures (Street etc) , it need some trees wich should NOT be 2d but 3d !

How much FPS would it give you ? -20 ? :-s

i didnt read all the post , could you tell me with wich version are you making it.
With pro or classic ?
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Spag: Thanks- nice little piece of info!

Yellow: Yep

Yellow: I use mat edit and blended the textures with vanseam. The water is a couple of matrices one ghosted and one not. I am going to make a wave agrothim.

Ex: Well, these screens were posted BEFORE I could really toggle with the engine much. Since these screenshots I have added textures, collision and atmospheric effects and havent lost any FPS (still running 38-40) I am making this with classic, but hopefully ordering pro today.

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I'm ordering Pro Today Also.Unless someone tells me to stop and not order while I'm ahead.lol

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That about eyes not seeing past 25fps. I think its something like 21. I did know the exact figure from college but ill have to get back to you on that.

For the whole project we are expecting to get 30-40fps

im going to be using memory saving methods in my dungeon editor so we may be able to get 45-60 fps in the huge dungeons. .


O my dialogue editor has almost been finished so i can work on the dungeon editor soon

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Keep up the good work!

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We intend to

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Trust me you can notice when the framerate is 30 or 60 on certain games. Once things start moving real fast you can see the differance. Since this is an RPG though, 30 fps should be fine. Racing and fighting games need to 60 fps, but games were split second reflexes aren't needed, 30 is good. It's not the eye that can deal with fps, it's the brain. The eye takes a steady feed of info, the mind sorts it out. Tecinquly you can see 4000 fps, but your brain would be running in the red.

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Good comment Arrow. Obtw arrow i added u to my MSN list but hav u added me?

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Well arrow , if every programmer would think that way , then c++ would NOT exist.
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better and faster apps like BASIC would also not exist.
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Hey just a little shot of environmental effects can be seen in my new sig Still that ugly sphere as a player though Well we are still ah-workin

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Why does this forum not have an edit button

he should be getting 200 FPS in order to add more things .
once he add in his scene trees (land-scapes need much trees) and rain + houses + some animals around + some streets + a sun effect + clouds(2d) + more details and to run his application with todays graphics 1152*1750 + .. then it will run at -100 FPS
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DBC has a fps limiter it'll never go higher than 100fps. When they switch to DBP they'll notice a massive increase in fps

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Ha ha I just ordered pro Get ready

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Quote: "Well arrow , if every programmer would think that way , then c++ would NOT exist.
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better and faster apps like BASIC would also not exist. "


Huh? What do you mean?

Yeah RPGamer, you're on my list. I know, I'll get to work, sorry for slacking off.

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Arrow: Nah your not slackin man- I havent been able to talk much with you! Its no prob- I've had plenty of work anyways!!! Lol! Im trying to open those latest files now- thanks

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anyone noticed that the US Pilsbury here is the one with a weapon? lol
sorry just thought that was amusing...
tha aside 30-40fps is fine, as long as the controls & camera movement aren't limited to this as well

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My Pilsbury doesnt have a weapon. :-s . I want a weapon.

Thnx for your comment Raven

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Hey, It was me who asked if i was on ur list Arrow. Not RPGamer.
Its an easy to make mistake since both of our avatars are almost the same.
Am i on your list. If not then add me Horace_the_skiier@hotmail.com

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Doughboys unite! As soon as I get some more textures and a model done I can get some more shots up Hopefully we can model some villagers as well!

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