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Program Announcements / DB Web Embeder

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hackinc 2000
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 17:11 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2007 23:16
Hi all, I'm planning to relese the next month, an application to embbed DB applications on a Web Browser. It include a DBP Plug in to create the application and the tool to create the dll used to embbed to Web Broswer.
Runs on Internet Explorer an FireFox.

dll Creation Tool: Testing Application


Application Running on the Web Browser

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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 17:13
Intresting,very intresting...

looks very cool too!

free or commercial?(<--sorry i just HAD to ask)

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hackinc 2000
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 17:30 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2007 23:16
Really don't know yet. Maybe the dll free the tool comercial, or Maybe bouth for just a donations.

Silvester
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 17:31
0.o cool!

ill be waiting till you announce it completely

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 18:11
Not that I'm suggesting you stop, because this looks very cool indeed, but it can already be done with igLoader (and DBPro 6.2 is compatible with this)

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Silvester
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 18:14
igLoader i quite annoying

it just downloads the .exe to a folder and runs it.

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 18:56
Quote: "it just downloads the .exe to a folder and runs it."


That isn't all it does, but I'm curious - how would you expect it (or anything like it, including the program in this thread) to work any differently? They have to download and run the EXE at some point. The clever part is writing the plugin to allow correct embedding into the browser.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 19:00
i looked at IGloader Developpers edition,and well.that just loads it from a local computer.

and Pro i heard of someone that uses it it downloads the app like windows does to like C:/Program Files/MyGame/MyGame.exe and then runs it.

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 19:07
You'd do well to look at it a bit more carefully if you think that is all it does.

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s0l1dsnak3123
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 20:11
cooool (thats all i can think of right now...)

hackinc 2000
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 20:51 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2007 23:17
Richard you are right, the embeder i'm making does in a sort the same as the igloader does. But i made this because i don't really want to pay a "$59.99 per title license"(in the case of igLoader). If i can doit, why not doit by my self. For my concern, to this day only igloader and grasshoper(bl**tz) do this. And now BD Web Embedder.

As an extra content.. The socond part of my proyect will be(figuring out)running the application on Windows Media Center and in this way running it from my Xbox 360's media center. For now it only calls the html page but the applicanion nevers loads. But this is another story.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 21:31
cool.

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Posted: 27th Aug 2006 19:14 Edited at: 27th Aug 2006 19:14
It looks really cool, indeed!

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Posted: 27th Aug 2006 23:45
Wow, this is cool. I was interested in igloader but like you said it's too expensive for freeware games. Good luck

But if you're thinking this will run on a 360, then think again hehe.


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Posted: 28th Aug 2006 08:20
Well this probably wont take off because your essentially running exe`s, and we all know what type of exe`s some people love to make, wasnt this the reason why flash was made?.

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Posted: 28th Aug 2006 11:07
Make it run with Opera too

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hackinc 2000
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Posted: 28th Aug 2006 22:17 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2007 23:17
Quote: "But if you're thinking this will run on a 360, then think again hehe."


I never said i will run on a 360, i said it will run on Windows Media Center and this way accesible throguht Xbox 360's Media Center.

I resolve the problem that make the application to not load, now the application its loading. My new task its makable playable whit xbox 360 Controller. But that is for the next weekend.

Quote: "Well this probably wont take off because your essentially running exe`s, and we all know what type of exe`s some people love to make, wasnt this the reason why flash was made?.
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I intended to make this for use DBP Exe's only, as you need to add some additional coding to it. Not as igloader that actually can run any exe you can use using an xml file.

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Posted: 28th Aug 2006 22:36
Please please let me test this if you need some help

And, if you own PlayBasic, please consider doing a version for that as well


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Posted: 28th Aug 2006 22:56 Edited at: 28th Aug 2006 23:03
So this lets you run the game via a webbrowser? Its there any slowdonwn? This sounds very cool! So...it can still run shaders, ageia's physics and everything in the browser!?



Also, will there be an ability to add ads in the webpage?

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Posted: 29th Aug 2006 10:12
I'd assume it's a regular plug-in that runs inside a browser, so you can put your own ads there like you would any regular webpage.


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Posted: 29th Aug 2006 12:49
Now thats cool!

hackinc 2000
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Posted: 29th Aug 2006 15:35
Quote: "I'd assume it's a regular plug-in that runs inside a browser, so you can put your own ads there like you would any regular webpage.
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Yep, You are right.

Today after my Real Work! and before going to university, I'm going to check some problems whit the Embbeder tool and continue working whit the Documentation.
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Posted: 29th Aug 2006 15:50
hope its done soon!

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Ri karou
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Posted: 30th Aug 2006 02:27
This sounds really cool! Hope you finish it.
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Posted: 31st Aug 2006 00:32
This definitely sounds good! Being able to embed dbpro exes into web pages will be awesome!

And, i agree - somebody said something about igLoader, and it sounded really good, but I went to the website and it was $60, and I said "hmm... maybe not THAT good..."

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Posted: 31st Aug 2006 01:23
When i first saw this, i thought all it did was convert dbp code to java. Will you support that?

hackinc 2000
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Posted: 1st Sep 2006 15:07
Hi to all! In the news - Yesterday, I installed IE7 CR1 and start testing the plugin whit it. It has a couple of problems loading the embedder the plugin. I think i can figure what's happening this wekend.

For Opera user, i'm installing it this weekend too and make some test on it.

Quote: "When i first saw this, i thought all it did was convert dbp code to java. Will you support that?
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I'm not that good on java to make that happend.
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Posted: 2nd Sep 2006 02:20
All right then. The only reason i wanted to know is because i like that java can be used on the web, and for applications.

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Posted: 2nd Sep 2006 05:04
This is awesome! I've been searching three years for something like this! I REALLY hope it gets finished!

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Posted: 2nd Sep 2006 11:03
3 years? That's a long time!

And, i wanted to know something, has your sig really been erased by a mod, or did you just type that there?

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Quote: "And, i wanted to know something, has your sig really been erased by a mod, or did you just type that there?"


Evidently yes, but I have no clue why. I know several people that had WAY bigger sigs then me, and they still have them. It seems like once a month, no matter what my sig is, it gets erased

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Posted: 6th Sep 2006 02:57
Excellent stuff, looking forward to a release and seeing it action!

hackinc 2000
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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 00:27 Edited at: 13th Sep 2006 00:28
Hi to all, Sorry for not post any news the last week, Too much work in my real WORK, and my Computer's Mother Board and TV are fried by a lighting Storm.

I get a new motherboard and going to continue my work on DB Web Embedder today.

Today i'm releasing my prototype project. Attached to this post. This release is not by far the final proyect and does not reflect the real status of the proyect to this day.

- For now you can do whit it anything, that hasn't have the commercial word on it. This Means Nothing commercial whit this prototype please, This Release it's Super Bugy, Menu items don't work.

ENJOY..


To-do:

- I'm changing some of the routines in the embedder so this way works more like igloader(R). Adding This way support for Windows Media Center. And hopefully run in Xbox 360 Media Center.

- For the before reason , I’m editing the DB Embedder Tool to remove some unnecessary options.

- Adding to Embedder Tool the option to create the Window Media Center .mcl file automatically.

- Adding Any Other thing that gets in my mind that make's you happy....

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Silvester
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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 07:45
this version seems to be impossible to work with...it cant find ANY path of what i want...OR it cant get the path of the tools i got.

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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 09:13
Very cool project, downloading the "prototype" now...

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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 15:03 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2007 23:18
Quote: "this version seems to be impossible to work with...it cant find ANY path of what i want...OR it cant get the path of the tools i got."


The program does not search for the tools automaticaly. If is what you mean. The program check for a file named Tools.cfg, that is created the first time the program runs. That File need to be populated before use the program using the Update Tool that opens after the MessageBox. You can do any of the followings.

If the program find that a tool is missing, it suposed to open the Update Tool after a Pop Message explaining it.

In the Update Tool, You can download the program or if you have them already, You can try finding the Missing File:

- Select The Missing Program from the Top List
- Press Find File and Browse For It or Them.
- Press OK.

If this isn't working, you can try editing the tools.cfg manually.
Open the Filie and edited as follow:

"ProgramName"ProgramDirectoryExecutable.exe

Notice that there are no spaces between Programname and Directory.

Examples:

"XVI32"CarkBasicWebToolsXVI32XVI32.exe
"ResHacker"CarkBasicWebtoolsResHackerResHacker.exe
"7-Zip"CarkBasicWebtools7-Zip7za.exe
"GoRC"CarkBasicWebtoolsGoRCGoRC.exe

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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 17:54
i dont got or want those applications installed.7-Zip crashes,XVI32 i have no idea what it is. and GoRC i have no idea either.

and the update tool just lets it crash here.

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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 21:14 Edited at: 13th Sep 2006 21:18
XVI32 - is used by the application to Write the executable name to plugin.

Resource Hacker - is used by the application to write your pesonal info, mime type, etc. to the plugin.

GoRC - is used by the application to make the resource file and copiled, so can be write to the plug in.


Quote: "In addition DB Embedder Tool use these tools for the creation of your final web plug-in. (this release only - Not sure yet what staying for the final release):

- XVI32 - A Freeware Hex Editor by Christian Maas.

- Resource Hacker- A freeware utility to view, modify, rename, add, delete and extract resources in 32bit Windows executables and resource files (*.res). By. Angus Johnson.

- 7-Zip Command line version - A Command-line and Windows shell utility for manipulating ZIP archives (Optional)

- GoRC, A free resource compiler (GoRC.exe), which produces RES files from RC files, or OBJ files from RC or RES files, together with documentation. by Jeremy Gordon. "
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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 21:30
Awesome work. Looks great and very nifty.

I would never use/run this however because when it downloads the program whats to stop it deleting files or collecting information?

Does it not download the program then run the program from the computer but it gets displayed in the browser instead of a window? (thus having the same privilages as the user logged in).

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Posted: 13th Sep 2006 22:25
with this creating virusses wont be a problem...oops,i might not discuss that

well,ill try to get the tool updater to work...then ill see if it works.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2006 02:35
Yup, it's pretty buggy, but it looks like it's close to completion

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Quote: "with this creating virusses wont be a problem...oops,i might not discuss that"


Some how i doubt that, but ill keep my eye on this on.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2006 07:48
Quote: "Some how i doubt that, but ill keep my eye on this on."


trust me,it will...

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It would be very easy to make a virus. But really, it's worth the risk to me. And who knows, maybe there will be some security features that come with this program... such as alerting you that the .EXE is trying to make/delete/edit a file. Then you could choose to abort or continue the program... that would be nice, but who knows... Is it even possible?

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well whats the status on this project? igloader is $600 per title, so I think Ill stick with this if it gets done.

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Posted: 21st Sep 2006 18:11
Hi to All. I'm out of town,and going to be for the next two weeks. (Working on a Job Thing). So i haven't Work in the proyect.

The last week (last time wrked on the proyect) i was having problems whit Windows Media, It doesn't wants to see my Xbox360 so as part of my proyect its to make playable DBP apps using Xbox360's Media Center. I thing i'm going to reformat my PC. This problem appears after i change my fried Mother Board.

But i have two more weeks to thing about it. So anything happening stay tunned. I'm also going to start putting news about the proyect on my personal Web Page: http://www.hackinc2000.com. You can visited and stay tunned if i don't post anything here.(I can't visit the forum from my work office anymore)

See you All in two Weeks:

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Posted: 12th Oct 2006 03:08
This definentily needs to be bumped!

With all the FPSC media packs, and the DBPro DLLs, and every single TGC product, how does one manage not going broke? Register here, it's awesome: http://www.surfjunky.com/?r=sunflash
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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 10:45
Hackinc, are you still doing anything with this? It seems a shame to let it die!

Lol, I guess I'll have to keep looking for something liek this if your not developing it anymore

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Posted: 7th Apr 2007 23:05 Edited at: 7th Apr 2007 23:29
Hi to all! I'm thinking to make DB Web Embeder a (Comunity Proyect)Open Source Proyect! This is a good proyect and I'm too busy in other proyects to finished at my own!

What you need to know:

- C++ - for the embedder part.

- Some knolage on Netscape Gecko Plugin API. Googleit and you find info and the referece for it.

As is going to be open its going to be free for all.

Let me know and I prepere everithing for the code release.

If anyone its interested rise your hands.

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Wow, I can't believe I only just found this It looks great!

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