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arras
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Posted: 15th Apr 2003 19:45
I just found GREAT site Body References for 3D artists
http://www.fineart.sk/index.html



One of those better finds I made on net
enjoy...
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Posted: 15th Apr 2003 19:58
I cant believe, i found something like this. I spent days by searching for some good anatomy pictures when I was modeling my firsth human model.

And here is just EVERYTHING in one place...
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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 02:06
I think everyone but you knew about that site

And to think all you had to do is ask here.

Don't forget to check out his links,polykarbon.com is great site also if you're into anime/manga style.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 02:12
LOL ! yeah.... had this one in my fav for quite some time now .... should have an over 18yrs certificate though !!

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 03:43
Yes it should, yes it should.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 04:15
why? its not as if there are pictures of guys shafting girls
if you guys get turned on by that then ya need to get some lol
most of the people there are quite, erm, ugly lol

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 04:21
police mugshots make a great basis for monster faces

arras
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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 10:07
Sorry guys, if I should ask everything I am searching for, you would be pretty busy answering my posts all over the place.
For sure I am not only one not knowing about that site so hope this post will be helpful to few of you at last.

If people there are ugly or not...unless you plan to make beauty competition game, that doesn’t matter, but why adult certificate?...I don’t understand neither. To my opinion its about anatomy not porn.
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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 10:36
thats kinda my point... i was accentuating it with the fact they're all ugly so you'd need to be pretty desperate to want to use it for adult purposes lol

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 11:22
Uhh, porn deosn't constitute the need for an adult certificate, nudity does. The fact that they're not having a gang bang or whatever else floats your boat deosn't mean it's entirely suitable for young kiddies to visit.

I'm sure I wouldn't want a 5 year old tugging on my clothes asking me what a certain piece of anatomy is.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 12:23
lmao... well i don't expect 5yo's to be needing art references, but that aside at 5yo then generally get naked at the drop of a hat anyways.

it is anatomy not porn... there is a major difference between the two, they show anatomy programs at all hours of the day.
because it is educational - not entertainment, that is the major difference. if they're learning about what things are then i'd rather they learnt whenever from such a source and by asking questions rather than learning when they're 16 from a porno mag, believing what they see if "REAL" lol...

when was the last time you say a tiney 34yo with breats the size of here age in DD still as perky as if they were 16? lol

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 13:29
Hehe !!! I was only joking about the over 18 certificate !! The nudes I use to sketch when I was in college were even MORE trogladites !

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 14:32
Hey Simple, thats not nice to make fun of serious guys like all we at this forum are...

Anyway, firsth anatomy picture of a naked woman I saw at a biology lesson at basic school. I dont think it was influencing me in some wrong way.
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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 15:26
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Hey Simple, thats not nice to make fun of serious guys like all we at this forum are...

arras >> So where in my previous posts have I made fun of anyone exactly ?? .... And notice the Exclamation marks at the end of my first post ??

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 15:32 Edited at: 16th Apr 2003 15:33
I agree most of these girls aren't good looking,but somehow there's a lil' Jap girl in the first page that's....grawl!

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 16:49
Quote: "it is anatomy not porn... "


Did you even read my post? I said the fact that there's nudity means it's 'adult' not porn, kids can easily accidentally access a site like that without meaning too.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 17:03 Edited at: 16th Apr 2003 17:05
-kids can easily accidentally access a site like that without meaning too

I could tell you 4-7 sexually explicit shows or movies a week on TV...Hell there's a show ala 'Doctor Ruth' at midnight on Quebec's TQS but the dingbats broadcast it also at NOON the day after and there's alot of graphic and closeup on some more disgusting stuff like SD...Good meal everyone hmmm....

My 9 y.o nephew can't even have a TV in his room because of this channel only(and it's a Fox-like network,not the playboy channel)

And after that,they CENSORE THE SIMSPONS!?

WTF

Sorry I had to vent out that one.

BTW:My point is that it's not unacceptable for a kid to witness a human body's feature...In a non pornographic way that is.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 19:14
>>to Simple
I was just joking!! As you see your own joke was realy devastating.. now all we here discuse about porn, anatomy, kidds, and went away from topic i was posting somewere at the begining

>>to Exeat:
I was reacting to Simple and Raven, did not ment to offend you... :-s
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Posted: 16th Apr 2003 23:04
oh cmon...im 18 years old and don't wanna watch dr ruth LOL...but even at that...I'm glad my parents didn't censor what I was watching on tv...as I would've learned everything from my classmates..which believe me would not have been a good influence...

And I'm not talking about pornos..I mean, educational tv like dr ruth, and on discovery, 'the history of sex', they are some very enlightening shows and although I don't believe a 9 yr old should watch some of the more ..detailed.. ones, I don't believe a 9 yr old 'would' want to watch them..unless they are curious as to what something is...

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 03:07
lol... personally i think if there is no posing or shafting of any kind from animal/machine/man/toy going on i think it's cool for kids to see.

i mean most who have access to the net and would access a site like that for the purposes of modeling or sketching better would be old enough to have already learnt some basics before going on there.
most here arn't under 12, and i dunno what they taught you guys when you were in the 1st year at Secondard School - but i remember quite vividly thinking "Hey hey, Biology they're gonna teach us about Sex..." you get in the class and you think, "oh that was disappointing."
lol its just so hard to think about it in any other manor than someone standing there and being nakie if they don't look happy or anything.
If you can't tell the difference between pornographic nudity and anatomical nudity and want to just censor both - then i do feel sorry for your kids who are probably gonna grow up not knowing about alot of things cause you wanna shield them.

i mean geez we've all been in incidents where we saw nakie people when we were young ... toodlers think its cool to play the "lets see how quickly we can undressed" game - when your do PE when ya young everyone does it like in thier underware (though i never did figure out why) - when you goto secondary school ya shower (some schools had Coed showers) after PE - there's also the odd occasions when you have your mom or dad running around the house trying to find things to wear, obviously not ashamed of anything they have to hide (thank god i'm not like that, can't stand being nakie when i know others are around)

ya know so its not like we haven't all seen some nakied person one time in our lives - if the subject matter isn't presented in a fahsion where you'd want to have pam involved, then i don't see the harm

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 04:56
I don't nescessarily mean censoring or preventing access to the site but was more getting to the point of showing a warning message before entering the site. It's not morally wrong to show a kid that stuff but some parents prefer to 'educate' their children by themselves and not have them stumble across a site like that. Hence why your parents would've had to sign a form or something when you did your "1st year at secondary school".

Arras: Don't know where you got the idea that you offended me, I was quoting Raven not you lol.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 05:48
heh..there's no signing forms here in the US...though requests are accepted if parents don't want their kids tought that in school...

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 10:20
My apologies, I may have speculated that because I saw an episode of 'King of the Hill' where they had to sign a form to teach sex ed to their son.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 11:38
to Exeat>> OK just misunderstanding
I thought your quote: -it is anatomy not porn...- was from my -its about anatomy not porn-

Its for sure not bad to place warning before entering site like this but it would be stupid to censor it.

Bye the way if 9 years old boy want to see naked woman, he will manage to do it sooner or later. You know, forbidden things taste the best.

I agree that access to some things should be limited for kids, but to forbid them any information can turn to be dangerous the same like to let them do what they just want.
For example its much better to tell them what drug is and explain what effects it have than refuse to speak about it totally. You risk then that he or she will learn it himself later.
And of course...sex is something totally different than drugs...you would not wish that your children is newer learning it... [b])
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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 12:41 Edited at: 17th Apr 2003 12:42
Quote: "My apologies, I may have speculated that because I saw an episode of 'King of the Hill' where they had to sign a form to teach sex ed to their son."


odd...perhaps it's policy of some schools, or state policy

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 15:50
-sex is something totally different than drugs

Does it?Then again I don't do drugs

-odd...perhaps it's policy of some schools, or state policy

King of the hill happens in Texas so....

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 16:00
[quote]Bye the way if 9 years old boy want to see naked woman, he will manage to do it sooner or later.[quote]

The idea would be to warn young children that are just searching for say 'a drawing tutorial' on the web from entering a site like that by accident. It's not hard to gain access to porn if you want, I'm trying to get at the fact that a little kid might stumble across it by accident which some parents might not be happy about.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2003 18:30
if you type in lines like that into AOL Parental Control Gooogle Search or MSN Search, etc... you'll not return that site.
the fact is that EVEN if the kids did stumble onto that kinda site, then thier parents wouldn't fly off the handle because of the nature of them ... and even more they won't stay on the site very long because you can't see big writing saying DRAWING TUTORIAL which is what they'll look for.

kids generally won't disinghish between a nude picture and a cartoon picture... infact you are MORE likely they'll follow the cartoon animé pictures and click on them rather than clicking on the nude person. if they are old enough to want to checkout the nude pics, then as has been said - they wanna see it, they WILL see it.
I'd rather my kid saw pics like that and though "bleck! boring..." rather than seeing a picture of a duck trying to be squeezed into somewhere it never was ment to travel!

because kids won't care if there is a "you must be 18+ to entire this site" ... i mean i'm sure if it was upto people like you we'd have anything even slightly nude rather than sexually explicit censored. i bet if it was naked animals though you wouldn't have a problem with that? perhaps even a movie of thier mating habits from Discovery, even though they have the same plug'n'socket we have (and in alot of cases use the same positions) - it'd probably be oki because they're animals right?

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Posted: 18th Apr 2003 05:12
And now we see in classic Raven style completely disreguarding all my points because he knows he's wrong and trying to come back with an insult. I can see I'm not going to be able to have a mature debate with you so I'm going to stop now.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2003 15:37
-it'd probably be oki because they're animals right

Wrong,the animals have rights protecting them at least j/k

What I mean is that humans don't even have a similar organization such as the SPCA,or whatever they call it elsewhere.When you see a little baby cat on the streets,you're thinking :"we should call the SPA" but when it's an human,begging for food(or money to drink) they just pass by...Of course,it's his fault that he's there but then again why not helping?Pretty stupid :_(

Anyways,we're a bit far from fineart there

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Posted: 18th Apr 2003 17:17
hehe, finally bothered to se what all the fuss was about, that stuff is so far removed from pornography. It's simple anatomy, and quite well targeted at 3d modellers. Heh, I don't agree with censorship of any kind, I have to agree that it's a simple fact that we are animals and as such should not be ashamed of nudity. If the site should have any kind of warning it should be a general one, stating that anyone who is offended by nudity should probably not bother entering the site, but I don't think that's nessecary, and would kind of place a 'dirty' connotation onto an educational resource.
Children who want to learn to draw at an early age should of course have access to nude models, how else are they gonna learn? I remember seeing my folks walking around naked and I don't feel even slightly bothered by it now nor did I then. Drawing from life is the absolute basis for understanding anatomy as it applies to creating figures for artwork.

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