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wednesday
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Raven mentioned in a previous post that you can purchase max 4 for $500. This is a bargain for this program.

I've had a look at the discreet website and saw no mention of it, so i was hoping someone could provide me with a link to any place which sells it.

Thanks.
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Aribtrage
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http://www.discreet.com/resellers/

Take your pick.

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Posted: 6th May 2003 21:00
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That was probably a student price, if you take classes in computer junk you get crazy deals on expencive programs.

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Andy Igoe
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It's the one justifyable reason to get an education to inadequately prepare you for a job.

Decision:

option A) Get a job, train, learn, get promoted etc.
option B) Train to do the job to a mediochre standard, shelter myself from reality for 4 years, finally start the job I could have got when I started the education at the same rate of pay and ultimately fail at it because my life skills are 4 years behind what they would have been BUT get 3dsMax at a rock bottom price.

It's a tough decision, but Max wins even though as a student your drugs habbit prevents you saving up even $500.

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lcfcfan
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If your looking to do a bit of 3D i reccomend you download Gmax is similar to max 4 but without the renderer, or try maya PLE edition even if only to try them out before buying max 4 to see what you think you can also get a free 30 day demo of max 5 from some places.

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wednesday
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G-Max is fundamentally flawed as far as I'm concerned. It only works with specific games and it has omitted some of the best features of Max proper like character studio(not surprising considering it's free)

Not bad if you're a beginner I suppose, but without Meshtools Max's modelling tools feel extremely sluggish (I think 5 has these as standard).

I know max quite well, and I've already ordered a copy of the max 5 demo to see whether I want it that badly. I know Maya's supposed to be great but I'm too ingrained in the Max mindset to change at this stage.

If I could find a legit version of Max 4 for US$500 or thereabouts I'd probably get it and wait until the beginning of next year to get 5.

If anyone knows a specific vendor who is carrying Max 4 at that price I'd appreciate greatly knowing who they are.

None of the one's I've contacted so far seem to have it.

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Gmax does have a few flaws but if you do like gmax even a little then you should like max i did not use gmax for games just to practice making 3d objects, i use max at the moment but when i have learned max inside out and consider my self to be a good moddeler then i will go over to maya cos it's a great application just a little complex for a beginner like me.

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DarkSith, Dark Basic does not promote pirating in any way shape or form.

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actarus
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Nah Gmax is good,he's just refering to a set of tools(predefined actions) that actually don't achieve anything more than Max's built-in tools but does it faster.

Still,it's a major addon for Max from what I've seen to finally be comparable to a few of Maya or Softimage XSi's tools...or Wings3D

In fact,that's the point in making your own scripts,in the end of the day you'll be working unilaterally...In my opinion,you should define what your own workflow and methods are and implement your own personalized scripts/plugins...I mean,it's not like it wasn't made easy in Max,hell it is in Softimage

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DarkSith
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I know that, RPG Gamer! I was just saying that he could if he wanted to.

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Yes but thats advertising for pirating which we dont support either

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Shadow Robert
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Agree with RPG... the only way to stop people pirating is to make sure they don't see it as a viable option.

however i don't think this guy would give the chance, as i think he's trying to get a package which doesn't have restrictions to purchase Max.
Standard Max you'll find around is still Max4 - Max5 is being taken up, but only with the studios that require heavier shader development.

Maya4.5 is still the standard Maya
as Softimage XSI 3.0 is still the standard SoftImage.

SoftImage XSI EXP 3.0 is free and is about as fully featured as the full program - not useful for commercial purposes right now, however if you get to a point where you need to retail your work then it is one of the cheaper of the entire batch of modelers around.

$500 for Max4 is not the Student Price, as i think that is now around $250 - since Max5 was released Max4 dropped in price like a stone ... and you've been given the link to the official retailers of Max products.

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Xsi is great I tell ya,I am totally in love with it and it's only the experience version.You will learn tons just using it.I'd be still using MayaPLE if it wouldn't be of that re-registering thing every x months though it's still very recommendable,for my part I'm just lazy.

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Shadow Robert
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lol ... i think Maya's and SoftImages polytools are what i really love - and has anyone else notice all the little Maya features that Discreet have put in Max5 hehe i wonder why

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wednesday
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I just e-mailed discreet ang got this reply:

Dear Sir,

your details were passed on to me by one of our resellers.

Unfortunately 3ds max 4 is no longer available for sale I'm sorry to say.. Last September we introduced 3ds max 5, and then in January this year, 5.1 and end of lifed 3ds max 4 at that time.

All our resellers would have rotated their stock from 4 to 5 when we announced v5, as most customers would prefer the updated version.

May I ask why you require max 4 over max5, is it a specific project, majority of plugins, scripts etc for max 4 work seamlessly with max 5.

Regards

Peter Moxom
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Peter Moxom
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Animation & Desktop Video
Discreet Asia Pacific peter.moxom@discreet.com
http://www.discreet.com
TEL: +65 6555 0116
FAX: +65 6552 0483
Mob: +65 9137 3784

I'm here to be proven wrong, but I can't find any evidence that max 4 exists as a new product, student or otherwise.

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ebay ebay ebay!!!

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Max licenses aren't that easily transferable, from what I've heard.

It doesn't matter, i'm going to use truespace 3.2 for the time being (ironic, since it was the first 3d program i used).

When i'm back in the groove i might give 6.5 a go. it's only $599 and should be okay for my needs.

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The Big Babou
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they provide "backup CDs" and as you imagine, you have to own the original CD to legalize having a backup CD, otherwise it's warez and that is what nobody wants
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It IS warez anyways since the backup should be made from your OWN original copy...

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wednesday
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I'm not interested in warez. I'd like to show off my stuff guilt free.

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John H
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Welp since it IS in fact warez, those posts can say hello to the trash can!

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Hah, i got 3d studio max 3.1 releas. But it is not so good.

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