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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 21st May 2006 01:16 Edited at: 21st May 2006 01:26
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Rules and Requirements;
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=77479&b=3
Entry Thread;
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=79638&b=3


Please only post works in progresses.


Well, as Zergei had a hesitation at the beginning, I thought I would get started on a dragon, I chose the Final Fantasy 9 version of Bahamut, the King of Dragons, so far 2400 polies. Hopefully I will get a decent texture on him, but no promises;



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Heres a very early WIP on the head, with just place-holder materials. I'm going for a sort of cyborg look.



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Posted: 21st May 2006 14:00
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I updated it this morning, now I'm gonna revise and hopefully I'll be back on it Friday.





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Hey its Dragon Contest <3 <3 I love dragons.. lol

Ok i start modelling too..

You singature was removed by mod because it was too cool..
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Posted: 21st May 2006 17:29 Edited at: 21st May 2006 17:31
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It's WYRMKING aka Bahamut and King Of the Dragons (FF8 Version) lol... See my crappy modelling and image skills.. well.. I post rendered version later (Cuz my render isint working right now.. =( )



Edit..

Woops forgot the conspect art isn't my made.. Found on net putted there so you see what was my model (they dosent look same lol)

It gots 9000 polys...

(Looks like is it bahamut contest lol)

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ive never heard of bahamut so yer, im not modelling him i'm going the apollyon look i think...with added dragon skills....

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I'll see if i can fit something in for once

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Here's an extremely early WIP. It's a bit square at the moment, but I have the basic shape. The body isn't in the shot because its just an extruded cube at the moment.





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Here's my work in progress. Unfinished head, tail, feet, and wings. Polycount just under 600. Good chance I'll be able to toss this model into Hexagon(2) to play around with.





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Guess I'll start on a WIP tonight. LOL, I own hexagon now, but I'm not putting it on this comp, would take forever on 56k. So I'm waiting to talk to my brother so he can put it on MY computer thats at his house...


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those are some nice wips coming along there

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Another update, just getting the basic shape ready before adding details. I think I may chop off a leg and make it mechanical.



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Entries lookin good. Mike you're gettin better with using Wings , but just an idea;

Currently (I may be wrong), it looks like your dragon model's wings' vertex connections a little strange. I know Wings tends to render strange shadows with simple verts even when in other modelers its fine, but it looks like this is the vert connection setup for your wing right now;



Though a setup like this might bear better results (and would make it a lot easier to rig the wings for the dragon as well);



Just an idea, though I might be wrong altogether aout how the verts are set up anyways

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Posted: 21st May 2006 22:25 Edited at: 21st May 2006 22:25
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Thanks Ruccus, I am a big time wings3d fan. It seems like I discover something new with it everyday. For example, today I found that you can switch the camera modes to match your favorite 3D application(Maya,Max,Mirai, etc.) How cool!

Yes, you are indeed correct about how the vertices are setup. Here's a wireframe so you can better analyze the model. Rigging this model will certainly be a challenge, but Truespace+MagicBones will certainly give me enough flexibility to tackle this beast.





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Hmm... Thats strange, wings shouldnt be giving you those irregular shadows. Try performing a cleanup on the entire dragon, if the dragon still looks the same then I guess its just the angle.

Still good progress, looks like you dont have any unneeded verts so far.

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Wow, very nice work going on here.

Not much of an update-just extruded some wings. I'll work on them tomorrow. I'm very happy to say that my friend gave me permission to use, and post, his concept art that he drew ages ago. So I'm basing my dragon on his pic:




Here's what I have so far:



Expect to see alot more refining over the next week or so.

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MikeS: Thats looking quite nice I've got a few suggestions however



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I hope I can finish and enter this. Here is what I have so far. Probably the best model I ever made.

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WIP...4 Elements

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@ Johnny, I love your sense of anatomy, kindness and drawing

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Jonny your the man.... You really need to put out some tuts for us beginers...

how many more days, cuz I have lots more to do finish on this beast...




edit: I shall call her "LuLu"
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Quote: "how many more days, cuz I have lots more to do finish on this beast..."


You've got until the day after my birthday (yey!) 31st May

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Thanks Jonny, and an extra thanks for the drawover. I'll keep tweaking the model with that drawover in mind. Should be the difference between a good and great model.



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Update on my model. It is almost done just have to fix a few things and create a texture for it.

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WIP...4 Elements

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Pretty much done, if anyone notices any problems or if I do ill change it. Theres something I don't like about it but not sure what.



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ooga booga: the regular wing looks a little deformed compared to the cyber one it seems like it needs to be more curved but other then that looks very good
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Thanks Jerok
Fixing that now.

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looking great guys! Seems like i might not be able to be in this one, even though i'd like to. Got to work a fair bit in the coming weeks.

Looking great oooga.

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ooga booga! you have solved the puzzle of the monster of the island in the lost series! ROBOT DRAGON PIRATES! i think I am gonna enter this compo with a dragonstar model, again with its lameness.

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Lol wigget. I believe my dragon may be guilty of eating some lost members but i'll make sure he doesn't get loose again.

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hehe, ooga booga, there is no competition! the only problem i can pick out from you tec dragon is that it is a litle un-eaven here and there. but apart from that, 4 smileys! . .

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if anyone want's any dragon ideas, i'm your man.

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@Ooga:
I liked it better with normal foot...that's not to say you didn't pull off the style well, you did a great job with it. I just liked the normal foot/leg better...
Anyway, it looks great...


I'm almost scared to post my WIP, but I will anyway when I get home tonight.


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Ugh....Always gets so demoralising when you get to the claws...



I've no idea why the creases are there at the bottom of the wing. I placed the vertices manually. It's completely flat (I set the X value the same to 3 dp).

They're going to be moved later anyway, so it's not too important yet.

@Ooga Booga: I love your idea of going with a mechanical dragon. Wouldn't like to be the things surgeon though.

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Quote: "Ugh....Always gets so demoralising when you get to the claws..."


claws do suck

Good to see so many people are now participating in the comps.. I hope I don't peter out like the last one (just ran out of time)
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Quote: "
I've no idea why the creases are there at the bottom of the wing"


it looks like some of the polygons there are triangles and the same for around the claws, to most 3D modellers using triangles can be your worst nightmare as the crease and make the geometry look ugly, so where possible avoid them, keep to four sided polygons is my recommendation. (I know game models need to be in triangles, but you can use triangulate )

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Yeah, I try to keep to quads, but it can be quite hard sometimes. I know the problem now, and it will be fixed when I move the wings into position for the final render. It's actually not a triangle, just some dodgy angles around a vertex. They're only like that for convenience whilst I'm modelling it.

The triangles around the claws are there because I had to sub divide to make them. I hadn't thought it through beforehand. I can fix that though, once I have the basic shape. I'm a perfectionist, which means I won't rest untill I'm happy with it. It also means that any model takes ages to finish.

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Kewl, as long it works out in the end for the model, whatever approach you like and works is fine, I am like that when it comes to mistakes or problems, I will usually leave them until the end, so I have all my problems there and then to straighten them out

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wing about 95% done, some minor tweaking left before moving on to the feet...

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Hi

Oneka had asked for a dragon in an earlier thread posted my version of the drawing but no reply. Still a work in progress. Any thoughts?

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my flat dragon model. will be doing another one too, one that isn't flat and is more mech like.

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Lol , looken pretty sweet :p

@Dark Heart: Thanks , not sure what you mean by uneven tho.

@Insanity: Thank you, i like the mechanical leg personally so i think ill keep it.

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ok been working on this since my last post (say what, tops of an hour) gonna start animating it now.

edit: and after about 10 seconds of key frame manipulation...

download 1.6meg avi !

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Hey guys. I almost didn't join this contest but i changed my mind. So here it is!

I might sumbit like it is or tweak it some. I decided to make sort of like a human-dragon type thing.
[edit]around 2000 sumthing polies[edit]

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@City of Chaos, Im pretty sure you're not allowed to submit that model as you began working it before the contest began. One of the rules says you cant do this, so you'll have to start over.

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@City of Chaos I am afraid RUCCUS is right, you may only use work that has been made within the time of the contest initiation, and soon will have to have been made specifically for the contest, I am afraid I cannot accept that as an entry

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Dude... ur guys' models look awesome. I am really new to this sort of thing so, can u tell me what program ur using and how the heck ur using it? Im sorry, but im clueless
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edit: hope i have time to texture her, anyhoot here is mine modeling done 99%..




edit: and to think it all started with a simple cylinder...
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sorry spelling mistake, un-even.
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if i posted just then before this i appologize, but it won't show up,
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any way just a reminder that i would be happy to design a dragon for someone. here is an example,

[img]C:\Simon's Stuff\dragon.bmp

that is the least i can do by the way,

p.s, if the image doesn't show up then your going to have to help me with this.
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@Heckno: where's the difference in detail with the LowPoly and HighPoly versions?


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