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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Just bought the game

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Medic
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 06:38
I just bought the game and it is version 1.0... Do I have to download all the updates or can I just download 1.7..?
Veron
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 14:36
Just get 1.07.

Insert Name Here
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Posted: 20th Jan 2008 19:38
It's not a game


Corky
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Posted: 20th Jan 2008 19:43
what game?

CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 20th Jan 2008 19:48
Quote: "It's not a game"


It's a lifestyle......


lol

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Posted: 20th Jan 2008 22:23
Life is not a game.
Make the right choice.


Deathead
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Posted: 20th Jan 2008 23:11
I don't understand why its always flames from you lot Insert Brain Here, Cocky and coffee (don't want to say it) lol I was joking about the names but its basically a game. More of a stratergy with Game engine stuck on the end of it. Now back onto topic.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2008 18:41
OK, I'm gonna take that as a joke, 'cuz I don't get how I was flaming. I really don't understand how FPSC is a game... Am I missing something?


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Posted: 21st Jan 2008 20:39
Quote: "I don't understand why its always flames from you lot Insert Brain Here, Cocky and coffee (don't want to say it) lol I was joking about the names but its basically a game. More of a stratergy with Game engine stuck on the end of it. Now back onto topic."


Roller Coaster Tycoon is a strategy game. World of Warcraft is a strategy game. Technically, FPSC is a game, but realistically, it's a game engine. It's a game engine made with a game engine. Coincidence? I think so.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2008 21:11
... I would have thought FPSC was a game creator.


Zdrok
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Posted: 21st Jan 2008 21:20
Game engine, game creator--whatever floats your boat. I prefer 'engine' because it sounds more professional.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2008 22:09
Yeah, it does.


Keo C
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 00:53
Quote: "It's a game engine made with a game engine"

It's a game engine made with a programming language for games.


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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 18:42
My box just describes it as 'REVOLUTIONARY'.


Duplex
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 19:09
Quote: "It's a game engine made with a programming language for games. "


Wrong, DBP is a game engine and by coding in it you are telling it what to do. That is why you need DX9 for everything it makes even if it is a game or not.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 20:59 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2008 21:09
DBP is a programming language, not a game engine. (you can create a game engine with it but it is not the engine)

FPSC is a game engine, not a game. (you can create a game with it but it is not the game)

These statements of course are only opinion and not fact, because it depends on the individual's definition.

If you think that the defintion of a game is ...
"A game is a structured or semi-structured activity, usually undertaken for enjoyment and sometimes also used as an educational tool. ".... Wikipedia

Then yes, FPSC is a game.

But then it goes farther to say..
"Games are generally distinct from work, which is usually carried out for remuneration, and from art, which is more concerned with the expression of ideas. However, the distinction is not clear-cut, and many games are also considered to be work or art."

This is where I make my distinction.
Creating games as a non-profit hobby or for fun is using FPSC as a game.
Creating games to sell for profit constitutes work, and thus makes FPSC an engine and not a game.

So, I guess it can be either.
Again, it depends on the individual using it and what their intentions and definitions are.

All of the "game" debate is off topic anyway.
Vernon gave the right answer to his question.

Don't forget to visit Conjured Entertainment

Duplex
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 22:14
Quote: "DBP is a programming language, not a game engine."


Wrong, it's a game engine. Any person who has read through the intro of begginers guide to darkbasic will tell you that.

Thraxas
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 22:19 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2008 22:21
Quote: "Wrong, it's a game engine. Any person who has read through the intro of begginers guide to darkbasic will tell you that.
"


Wrong, it's a programming language. Any person who has read through the Introduction in the DarkBasic Professional Help System will have read this:

" Welcome to DarkBASIC Professional
The Ultimate Programming Language for your PC!

No matter what type of game you plan to make, by providing rapid development solutions, Dark Basic
Professional has the power to handle them all. It does all this and remains the easiest programming
language available.
"

So it seems TGC think it's a programming language... I guess they would know!

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Duplex
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 07:51 Edited at: 23rd Jan 2008 07:54
Wrong again.

DarkBasic is a game engine. By coding in it you are telling it what to do. You could call it a programming language becasue it doesn't have a built in map editor and such, you have to code one yourself.

You could call FPI a programming language. But know one does because TGC didn't call it one.

Also, why would you need DX9 for anything you make with it.

I'm not bashing DB, I think it's great, I just know how it works.

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Quote: "So it seems TGC think it's a programming language... I guess they would know!"


You listen to TGC and everything they make would be the best of its kind.

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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 08:03
Quote: "I'm not bashing DB, I think it's great, I just know how it works.
"


Obviously you don't understand about it all otherwise you wouldn't be making such a silly argument... DBPro is a programming language not a game engine... but I refuse to get into a "it is, it isn't" argument with you... but hey if you want to take it up with someone why not email TGC and ask them... if they tell you it's a game engine thus proving me wrong I'll make a public apology on these forums and buy you a model pack (official) of your choosing... it's all there in black and white for everyone to see so I won't back out if I'm wrong... so please go ahead and prove me wrong

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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 10:35
Congratulations, Medic!

Um... just ignore them... they get riled up way too easily.

If you find your way into scripting, you can find me in the appropriate board.

Best of Luck.


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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 11:09
What are you all talking about?!?

FPSC is a music CD!

Gunn3r
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 15:30
@Cheese Cake - LOL!

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Tom J
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 17:33
I would have to take Thraxas' side in this here arguament.
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 18:39
Quote: "What are you all talking about?!?

FPSC is a music CD!
"

That's the funniest thing I've read all day, for more than one reason.


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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 18:53
Why is it funny,
Because You're funny, And you are a great moddeler, There are two reason's.
Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 19:29
DBP is not a game engine, it is a programming language. Why? Because it compiles machine language EXEs and has no focus toward any particular type of game. A game engine is a pre built EXE that imports scripts and media to create a specific type of game. FPSC is a game engine programmed in DBP - you can't make a game engine with a game engine. Can you make a game engine with FPSC? No. I'm making a game engine in DBP for RPGs. Will anyone be able to make a game engine out of it? No.


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