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3 Dimensional Chat / right now iam working on my THIRD MODEL!!

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Quik
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Posted: 18th Aug 2008 22:53 Edited at: 18th Aug 2008 22:58
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after that, iam off to learn UV mapping and Texturing and after that it is gonna be Animating right now iam working on a Character O.o.0

what is left of it? well.. Arms, head, and the neck part=P and hands, i dunno if it is gonna be a Zombie or a HumanXD

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Okay, here's an idea. Stop making threads every time you slap a few polygons together. You now have 8 threads on the front page alone. If it's really that important to post something, put it in a thread with your other models.

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okXD ill do that next time^^

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i think hes just excited =p

take a breather and compose yourself man, or youll pay for it, i created 'super crazy monkey nut as my fourth model and even made a song i got put on noob freak out watch lol
seems there was good cause

still worth it =p


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Posted: 18th Aug 2008 23:19
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ooooookej...? XD

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Quote: "Okay, here's an idea. Stop making threads every time you slap a few polygons together. You now have 8 threads on the front page alone. If it's really that important to post something, put it in a thread with your other models."


Honestly I'd rather have what he's doing than what some folks have done, wasting space. At least he's showing work and progress in each of his threads.

However I do agree, just less harshly xD Create a sort of progress thread, or ask a mod to change the title of one of your threads appropriately. Post your work as you go along there. People will view and crit.

As for your current model here, it looks like it's taking form, but we can't tell a lot(or at least I can't) from this render, perhaps a closer up view, even wireframe, is in order.


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Ech. Sorry about that post before, I was in kind of a weird mood...

On topic, your pic doesn't really show much. Maybe post a few larger images, or a close-up so we can critique more easily. As far as developing organic modelling technique (something I still haven't attempted, lol) try Googling human body references to get the proportions right, and use some tutorials to learn about using edge loops to make the geometry flow correctly. Humans are one of the hardest things to model correctly, since even the smallest mistake is noticed more easily than that of a less-familiar subject.

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actually it shows enough for us to see what it is suppose to be. and for a third model thats damn good. It still has a very long way to go to become a character, but making good characters is hard. and thats a better start than what most people have.

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Quote: "actually it shows enough for us to see what it is suppose to be."


There's more to constructive criticism than knowing what you're looking at


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Posted: 19th Aug 2008 09:01 Edited at: 19th Aug 2008 09:10
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thanks Wind27382!^^

and iam gonna post a new pic, as soon as i get his arm done^^ then i might post more closer pics, wireframe and so on^^ right now iam working on the arm=P and i might, just MIGHT get it done before schoolXD if i hurry up that is O.oXD

and btw: i think the polycount will be around.. 2-3000=P but that is becouse of all the Cylinders i used^^ i use Cylinders cuz it made it a lot easier to make=P

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arm is done and with it, more pics
firstly: Wireframed (if you wish other angles of the pics, just tell)

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now, Flat shaded

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then: Smooth shaded agan

now iam off with the hand and then iam just gonna Mirror it, then were going to the neck and the head then iam gonna learn to UV Map and so onXD wish me good luckXD

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actually thats not bad people can be really hard to do...Im no modeller myself but i still think its a good attempt.
Heres my first attempt at modelling...not brilliant :S
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=76018&b=3
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thats not bad at all,

if you want to be lazy copy the mesh and flip it on the x coordintate, then flip the normals, am not sure how to do this on milkshape but that will create a full body mesh,


lookin good at lest yours is one whole model my first person turned out in 4 seperate parts

(yes i said lest)

good luck


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haha thanks guys^^

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Not sure if your going to, but redo the shoe. Other than that looking pretty good my friend.

Umm i suggest that you do lots and lots of texture practice before moving to animating. But its your choice bro.

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know the shoe looks bad, and the han sa looks even more bad ass=P well i might try training on hands and feets l8r^^ right now iam mostly gonna get it DONE, then lets see if iam gonna make it look better
XD sheers well btw! here's a pic of what i did before schoolXD it is in Smooth shaded

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i just decided: iam gonna Refix the hand l8r but the feet is still uncertain... maybe make it look more like a shoe or somethin, well how ever: the head was way harder than i though O.o

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now it is only texturing left O.o =P

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doig the UV Mapping in Lithium right nowXD dude, why didnt anyvody tell me it was so fun to ModelXD Texturing and UV mapping isnt as fun but anywayXD its a "gotta do"

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Posted: 20th Aug 2008 08:46 Edited at: 20th Aug 2008 08:46
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another new: when iam done with it, iam gonna release it to the public^^ (i was concidering i was gonna keep it to meselfXD but i need some sort or Feed backXD) off too school now anyway

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Posted: 20th Aug 2008 14:20 Edited at: 20th Aug 2008 14:24
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its looks good especially since it was done in milkshae, one of the worst modling programs, great for aniamtion but modeling not so good but you get what you pay for

try rigging next, look at the downloads section in fpsc models and media, its got a skeleton. or give a mo and ill post it


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what is rigging? sorry iam new to this

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i take it you have the newest version of milkshape?

rigging is where you attach a model to a skeleton. the skeleton acts as the animation control, everthing atached to that part will move accordingly, like your arm if you where to move it the mucles follow (although your skeleton dosent move the mucles and tendons do and make the skelton move) the mesh will deform and look like its moving

edit better explanation,

the vertces are attached to one of the several joints on the skeleton, the vertices from that starting postions will follow the same movements as the skeleton to create a movement of sorts,
the reason i ask if you have the most upto-date version of milkshape is that it is esayier to ri since you now can accsess vertex weights which shows by a color, the bone it is attched to, it shows any accendiental screw-ups which would casue the mesh to deform

heres what cosmic prophet taught me, he gave a load of tuts which he later posted here

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=131537&b=24

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hmm iam easily gonna read all off those tutorials l8r after i've learned texturing..XD

edit: btw, is there any program that is a little bit better than Milkshape and just a little but harder to use? ^^ for modeling that is

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Å herregud... Du är svensk


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ja jag e svensk.. å glömde bort mig å skrev på svenskaXDDD omg lol

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btwXD i had to start from when he was HALF.. why? cuz i had a problem in the grouping... some of the groups had bin... dublated, wrong grouped and so on, well how ever, luckily for me i SAVED before i putted it togetherXD

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ducht?
franca?

i found ac3d very esay to master and still use it time to time even though i have 3ds max, extrealy esay learning curve but you can produce very effective results, No anmation or render you need pov ray which is free

the program is around $/£50 not sure which it was , its in the tgc shop


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okey thanks^^

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Looks good for a third model. Other then the hands and the feet the main problem is the edge loops. Look at this tutorial it should help you: http://poopinmymouth.com/process/character_tutorial/character_process.htm


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is there, btw any good program to use when texturing humans? iam not good at painting... so iam asking for an easy to use and still keeping an good quality, if you dont know one i have paint and Photoshop but it will look BAAAAAADXD

edit: Btw: anyone here good at as i call it "grouping" i need help.. when i try to group everything i always forget something or.. .you know it just doesnt work out =( cuz if someone is willing to help me (means i send you file, you fix, you send back) then ill include you in the Readme fileXD heh... thanks anyway! ^^ cheers

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Photoshop combined with photographs of someone some clothes ect

warning i cant spell
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well, iam not a good photographXD

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nobody willing to help me? O.o

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bump

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if i dont get someone to help me in the morning, iam gonna have to start a new model =/

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Okej jag ska ge dig några tips, dessa är mest för att lära dig, och ta de inte som förolämpningar eller något sånt Jag försöker bara att lära dig att bli en bättre forum-gåare

Okej först av allt, bumpa inte en tråd efter några timmar, det är onödigt, den ända andledningen till att man ska bumpa en tråd är när den når andra sidan eller mer.

För det andra, jag skulle föreslå att börja sluta använda "text" speak eller vad det nu kallas, vilket betyder att du borde sluta säga saker som "plz" eller liknande, också, du verkar överanvända den här "XD" mellan varje typ ord du säger, jag skulle föreslå att inte göra det.


Okay now I'll say the rest in English, why not start practicing on making textures if you have PS, it just takes a lot of practice but it is perfectly possible.


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ima gonna practice^^ but i first want the UV map.. how ever, to do that i guess i have to fix Groups in MS Like, feet, leg, body aso, but it just dont want to work for me

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then iam starting on a NEW model=P lets see how that is gonna work out O.o

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