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Benjamin
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Quote: "Benjamin, it should just work like any other payment system. In the UK, it would ask for a security number, for example. There must be some missing information, or error."

I thought this, but I checked over the information several times and even tried it in IE thinking it might be a browser issue. It's a Maestro debit card I'm trying to use, and it works fine on other sites such as Amazon and sfr.fr. I'm writing the card number in the XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX format (I try without spaces also), and I always remember to enter the security number. The page just spits out a message telling me to enter my card number (no doubt some check done in Javascript). It makes no sense at all.

I'll try again later.

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@Super Nova,
I'm still accepting payments via paypal. Just be careful of the deductions that they make.

The running total, as at this post is £160.07 made up of 6 donations.


Just to re-raise the point - one of the donations was small enough to be almost swallowed up by the fees. If you are going to donate, save up a little first so that this doesn't happen.

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I'm in too, as soon as I get paid i'll donate to GG. Can't wait until this develops, just imagine what he could do with a beast machine in his arsenal.

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Ok, I sent $40 USD.

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£10

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2009 20:15 Edited at: 3rd Feb 2009 20:17
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My recommended specifications using bare-minumum parts to net you the best CPU/Video combination within the projected budget:

http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/gamer_infinity_700/detail

* Case: Coolermaster Elite 330 Mid Tower 420W Black
* Light & Illumination: None
* Extra Case Fan Upgrade: None
* Power Supply Upgrade: Standard case power supply
* CPU: C2D E7400 CPU, 2.8GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2
* Overclocking Service: No overclocking
* Cooling Fan: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme CPU Cooler
* Motherboard: MSI P31 Neo-F V2 P31
* Memory: 2GB Corsair XMS2 w/Heat Spreader
* Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 896MB 16X PCI Express
* Video Card 2: None
* Video Card 3: None
* Monitor & LCD: None
* Hard Drive: 160GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
* Data Hard Drive: None
* Hard Drive Cooler: None
* Optical Drive: Sony Dual Format 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Dual Layer
* Optical Drive 2: None
* Sound: (Onboard, none selected)
* Speakers: None
* Networking: (Onboard, none selected) gigabit ethernet

£604.00 ex. VAT
£694.60 in. VAT

You can squeeze a little bit more money by a different heatsink. I've configured it to my personal taste with a passive CPU cooler. The question I always ask is: do you want a computer or a glow in the dark vacume cleaner? I would also recommend the Antec P182 but it pushes the price up another £70 + VAT.

I skimped on the memory (2GB should be enough) and the hard drive (160GB is enough?) to keep it close to £695/1000 USD after VAT.

Highlights:
* C2D 1333Mhz bus CPU and compatible motherboard (C2D is generally faster than the C2Q)
* Silent CPU sink
* Super DVDRW/CDRW optical drive
* Onboard gigabit ethernet

Warranty:
The EVGA motherboard comes with a lifetime warranty so long as you register it within 30 days:
http://www.evga.com/support/lifetime

The corsair memory is also covered under a lifetime warranty:
http://www.corsairmemory.com/warranty/default.aspx

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2009 20:42
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Mistrel,

Thanks. That is just the kind of firm recommendation that I need. However, I think we can safely assume a budget of £1000 UK sterling so you can push up the hard drive capacity, etc, a bit. You can forget about software - I'll look after that (although suggestions are always welcome).

Since we are now getting down to practical details I'd like to offer a further suggestion. The community seems to have settled on a budget or target of $1000 US which seems sensible. I'll obviously make up any shortfall between that and my personal budget of £1000 UK. However, there remains the possibility that the community's target might be exceeded. What should we do with the excess, if any? I'd suggest that it goes towards one-off prize or prizes of some sort to the forum's newer members. What do you all think?
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I want to contribute but can`t(no job). Just wanted to say I`m amazed at the generosity of the community here and that GG deserves the best.
If TGC still get gfx cards or other stuff to play with and if there is any question that the goal won`t be met, maybe they could offer up something they no longer need, after all they had 8800`s at the first convention and they meet his requirements. Just a thought
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I just sent the couple of euros that were sitting in my paypal account doing nothing, but it's a just a drop compared to the sea of generosity I'm seeing here! I'm well impressed!

Green Gandalf: You totally deserve this new PC! You're always very helpful and kind.

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I'm impressed too, this is going great and it's just started. It's cool when an online community can do something real and I'm sure that it's really rare.

GG, if we go over I vote that we just include it in the computer's budget. A little extra won't hurt.


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Posted: 3rd Feb 2009 21:19
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Cash,

I do feel rather overwhelmed by all this. I'll happily go along with whatever you all decide.
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I have an idea, perhaps TGC or Nvidia could donate a nice shiny new computer or possibly some cash to GG?

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Quote: "25p sent."


DOH, I meant 25 Pounds.

The transaction at the time came out to $35.60 US. Not bad.

I would suggest a wide screen flat panel if you haven't got one already.

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I donated all i had in my paypal

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Quote: "GG, if we go over I vote that we just include it in the computer's budget. A little extra won't hurt."


I totally agree with that, or maybe spend it on some development software that he may be interested in.
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@BatVink, I sent the 25p donation.

Once GG gets the computer, I cant wait for the millions and millions of shaders he will release for us each day. Seriously, thanks for the shader stuff GG! I like learning from it.

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2009 22:39
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I would suggest a wide screen flat panel if you haven't got one already.
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i will echo this suggestion. my 22" wasn't expensive and really felt like an upgrade from the 19" crt i had before if you should have anything left after that, add more ram. also, make sure you build this system with "room to grow". ie, 1 stick of ram vs a (cheaper) 2 sticks, and leave yourself a free bay or 2 in the tower, etc.

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2009 23:29 Edited at: 3rd Feb 2009 23:30
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I just sent 25.00 GBP to IanM's PayPal account.
@IanM you'll recognize the first part of my email as "pdq..."


Thanks GG for all of your hard work!!
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@IanM
mine starts with "infe". didn't mention who it was in paypal. sorry about that.

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There's no problem if you don't include forum details - it's nice to know but not critical.

As I'm posting here, I'll let you all know that...

The current total stands at £269.11 (approx)


This value includes the donations sent to BatVink today, and 2 'pending' payments that haven't been fully cleared by Paypal. The 'approx' is because one of those unclear donations is USD and I don't yet know the final conversion rate for it so I guessed a reasonable value.

Many thanks to all of you that have donated so far.

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well, at this rate, looks like GG might have his new pc by the end of the week! I say, if it goes over, he should get it. Use it for a new monitor, or a better setup.

and edit:
IF you want to be listed, you must let us know here you donated. I'm going to list the forum names of everyone who has stated they did so, instead of having Ian or BatVink sort out the emails.
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Quote: "Thanks. That is just the kind of firm recommendation that I need. However, I think we can safely assume a budget of £1000 UK sterling so you can push up the hard drive capacity, etc, a bit."


I will update the specifications on a projected budget of ~£1000 inc. VAT.

I've also submitted a donation to the pool.

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Here you go:

http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/gamer_infinity_600/detail

Note that you must use this link to get the total listed here. Configuring a more expensive base-system will yield a higher overall cost. This business appears to charge a cost-to-build by equating a percentage of the base cost.

* Case: Coolermaster Elite 330 Mid Tower 420W Black
* Light & Illumination: None
* Extra Case Fan Upgrade: None
* Power Supply Upgrade: Standard case power supply (this should be fine)
* CPU: C2D E8600 3.33GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2 (the best dual-core cpu on the market)
* Overclocking Service: No overclocking
* Cooling Fan: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme CPU Cooler
* Motherboard: EVGA nForce 780i SLI Mainboard FSB1333 DDR2 3 x PCIe x16 SATA RAID w/ USB2.0, IEEE1394, 7.1 Audio
* Memory: 3GB Corsair XMS2 w/Heat Spreader
* Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 896MB 16X PCI Express
* Video Card 2: None
* Video Card 3: None
* Monitor & LCD: None
* Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
* Data Hard Drive: None
* Hard Drive Cooler: None
* Optical Drive: Sony Dual Format 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Dual Layer
* Optical Drive 2: None
* Sound: (Onboard, none selected) High definition on-board 7.1 audio
* Speakers: None
* Networking: (Onboard, none selected) 2x gigabit ethernet

£866.00 ex. VAT
£995.90 in. VAT

You can squeeze a little bit more money by getting a different heatsink. I also didn't specify any additional fans (pointless) or glow/lights. The question I always ask is: do you want a computer or a glow-in-the-dark vacuum cleaner?

I would also recommend an additional £70 for the Antec case. These are in my opinion the best (quietest!) cases around.

I skimped on the memory (3GB should be enough) to keep it close to £1000 after VAT.

Highlights:
* C2D 1333Mhz bus CPU (plenty of wiggle-room for upgrades)
* Silent CPU sink
* Super DVDRW/CDRW optical drive
* Onboard 2x gigabit ethernet
* Onboard high-definition 7.1 audio
* Plenty of USB ports
* Motherboard is SLI-compatible

Warranty:
Rely on OEM not builder warranty: The Corsair memory comes with a lifetime warranty. The EVGA motherboard also come with a lifetime warranty but must be registered with their respective OEM within 30 days:

http://www.corsairmemory.com/warranty/default.aspx
http://www.evga.com/support/lifetime

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you could always try http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk

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There's not been too much change overnight.

The current total is £271.06
This is made up from 12 donations directly to me, plus those who have donated via BatVinks google checkout account


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I have just donated 5 euro's through Batvinks account. Email will show up as integrateblog@gmail.com.

To everyone: I've been chewing on donating for the last couple days. What's been bothering me about the world lately is that there just doesn't seem to be justice these days. The bad are not getting punished, and the good are not getting what they deserve.

My donation is my contribution, not just to Green Gandalf, but to justice in general. Green Gandalf is a honored member of this forum and has put in countless hours of time and effort in helping each and every one of us. If he hasn't helped you directly, I'm sure you've been touched by his passion, his wisdom, or his humor at the very least.

So, to wrap this sap session up, and maybe squeeze a bit of money out of that guilt you have for reading this and not donating yet (jk'ing of course ): Just donate It's for a good cause.

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Quote: "The bad are not getting punished, and the good are not getting what they deserve."

It's not often that we get to change that ourselves.

Green Gandalf has indeed done so much for this community. I don't think it's possible to be involved in shaders and not have used several of his. He's always willing to help anyone who needs it and he is always willing to write custom shaders for you.

There are very few people that I'd have accepted this thread for. When I saw it I was just dissapointed that I hadn't thought of it first. Whether you're an old timer, someone new, someone who uses shades all the time, or even someone who has never touched a shader, we should all donate a little to the cause. His continued work will keep DBP and this community shining. Our collective work will be improved for his effort.

Besides that, be part of something cool. How many online communities can claim they've done something like this? It's happening, it's going to happen, so be a part of it.


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The latest total is now up to £296.86


With a little luck, BatVinks update to me later tonight will take us over the £300.00 mark.

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I just made a donation to keep things moving.

I haven't had a chance to play much with shaders,
but I wanted to thank Green Gandalf for all his contributions
and help to others.
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I donated everything i had in my paypal account It was only 1.15$ though, but if i get some more money soon i'll see what i can do..

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Thanks for the donations guys. Don't worry about the amounts you donate - every little bit you do donate is appreciated.

The total for today is £312.02


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I gave up work in september to become a full time student again. So to me, money is hard to come by at the moment. However, I have donated a small amount as a thank you for the help given at the last convention.

Once GG has enough money for his new (and much needed) PC, there is an obvious next step. The generosity of the community has opened the flood gates to donations for worthy causes and no-one has provided more help than the author of the fabulous and essential collection of matrix1 plugins ... and the donation location is already in place



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Quote: "no-one has provided more help than the author of the fabulous and essential collection of matrix1 plugins"


Well said. I'd contribute to that too.
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I do appreciate the offer guys, but it's not really necessary.

I'm not going to say no outright, but to be honest I'm not going to have any problems buying a new PC without assistance - I've been thinking about it since Christmas.

Right now I'm thinking about going with Mistrel's final system spec, but with a little more memory and a few quid extra for 64 bit windows.

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Tweaked for Green Gandalf to add a monitor and speakers:

http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/gamer_infinity_600/detail

Note that you must use this link to get the total listed here. Configuring a more expensive base-system will yield a higher overall cost. This business appears to charge a cost-to-build by equating a percentage of the base cost.

Core Components:
* Case: Coolermaster Elite 330 Mid Tower 420W Black
* Light & Illumination: None
* Extra Case Fan Upgrade: None
* Power Supply Upgrade: Standard case power supply (this should be fine)
* CPU: C2D E8500 3.16GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2
* Overclocking Service: No overclocking
* Cooling Fan: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme CPU Cooler
* Motherboard: EVGA nForce 780i SLI Mainboard FSB1333 DDR2 3 x PCIe x16 SATA RAID w/ USB2.0, IEEE1394, 7.1 Audio
* Memory: 3GB G.SKILL Value Select or Major Brand
* Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 896MB 16X PCI Express
* Video Card 2: None
* Video Card 3: None
* Monitor & LCD: Samsung SM2032BW 20" 2ms Wide LCD DVI Display Monitor
* Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
* Data Hard Drive: None
* Hard Drive Cooler: None
* Optical Drive: Sony Dual Format 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Dual Layer
* Optical Drive 2: None
* Sound: (Onboard, none selected) High definition on-board 7.1 audio
* Speakers: Logitech X-240 2.1 Configuration Speakers System
* Networking: (Onboard, none selected) 2x gigabit ethernet

Software & Services:
* Microsoft® Windows XP Home w/ Service Pack 3 (XP, unless you really want Vista)

Accessories:
* Logitech PS/2 Keyboard (Black)
* Logitech Optical PS2 Mouse (Black)
* INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (Black)

£862.00 ex. VAT
£991.30 in. VAT

You can squeeze a little bit more money by getting a different heatsink. I also didn't specify any additional fans (pointless) or glow/lights. The question I always ask is: do you want a computer or a glow-in-the-dark vacuum cleaner?

I would also recommend an additional £70 for the Antec case. These are in my opinion the best (quietest!) cases around.

I skimped on the memory (3GB should be enough) to keep it close to £1000 after VAT.

Highlights:
* C2D 1333Mhz bus CPU (plenty of wiggle-room for upgrades)
* Silent CPU sink
* Super DVDRW/CDRW optical drive
* Onboard 2x gigabit ethernet
* Onboard high-definition 7.1 audio
* Plenty of USB ports
* Motherboard is SLI-compatible

Warranty:
Rely on OEM not builder warranty: The EVGA motherboard comes with a lifetime warranty but must be registered with their respective OEM within 30 days:

http://www.evga.com/support/lifetime

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Quote: "Right now I'm thinking about going with Mistrel's final system spec, but with a little more memory and a few quid extra for 64 bit windows."


I hear that. My desktop was destroyed during my most recent move. The CPU sink severed from the motherboard and banged around the case. The video card acted a shield for my PCI cards but most everything else was destroyed.

Luckily, I had just bought a new notebook. UT3 is still playable at 640x400.

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The total so far is £321.36


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I'm not on here often, but I'm aware of GG's contribution to the forums, so I shot over a little bit; my way of saying thanks for the help you've provided me and everyone else.

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Wow this is amazing, ive never seen something like this done before.
Im definitaly adding in my 10 dollars once my money transfers (a week), you really do deserve it Green Gandalf.


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The current total at this point is £333.88


... despite the fact that I'm getting picked on by GG in another thread

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He'd better watch you don't impose a holding charge

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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 10th Feb 2009 21:30
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Quote: "despite the fact that I'm getting picked on by GG in another thread "


But you quite rightly put me in my place there - as usual.

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Approx $1000 probably.
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No change to the total today guys, unless you count the fact that my bank refused my own transfer and I've have had to re-validate my bank account again

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Posted: 12th Feb 2009 08:08 Edited at: 12th Feb 2009 08:09
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More gold is required.

Hmmm we are about halfway there. What if we made banners that we could put in our signature until this goal is reached? BiggAdd? Where are you? The point being that many people who don't frequent this board often would get a chance to hear about it. And this should be in the news letter if it isn't already! I forget...

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Posted: 12th Feb 2009 08:14 Edited at: 12th Feb 2009 08:15
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Build more overlords!

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Posted: 12th Feb 2009 18:36 Edited at: 12th Feb 2009 18:37
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Todays total is now up to £349.50
from a total of 21 donations


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Posted: 14th Feb 2009 07:22 Edited at: 14th Feb 2009 07:30
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I'm going to tell you all a little story. The other day, I was in the local Quickie Mart, stocking up on Diet Pepsi and Kellogs Frosted Mini Wheats. (They had them on sale, what can I say?). When I got to the checkout, the clerk asked me if I wanted to donate a dollar towards the Muscular Dystrophy Association. In America, since the beginning of television, Jerry Lewis has a fund raiser for these kids afflicted with this disease. And every year, he raises HUGE sums of money. Billions, I bet. At first, I didn't want to give up that dollar. But then I thought, its only a buck, its for a good cause, AND they put my name on a green paper shamrock they displayed inside the store. AND I FELT GOOD, because, even though, it wasn't much, I helped. Needless to say, as of today, you can't swing a stick in that store without hitting a shamrock. And this is JUST ONE STORE. There are at least 10 of them in my city, hundreds across the state, and probabaly thousands across the USA. What is my point? All I ask, you, the DBProgrammer, is if a buck is so hard to part with? Or 5 bucks? Sure, GG isn't sufffering from a life threatening, debilitating illness (well, I hope not anyway), BUT, he IS suffering from a dibilitating computer. I wouldn't ask this for anyone else on this forum. Seriously, have you EVER seen a negative post from this guy? If anyone deserves a little bit of appreciation from the community, it is him. So, even if you haven't benefited from Green Gandalf's shader teachings YET, you will when he gets his new pc. So, dig into your pockets, make a 5 dollar donation. Be a part of history. And, for your generosity, you will receive something better than a paper shamrock that gets tossed in the trash in two weeks. You get one of these , forever attached to your name, showing that you do have a heart.
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Agreed with Visigoth, although that analogy is really bad.

Now... where's my damn credit card...

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Mistrel, what's this? Not up to date with your Starcraft lingo?

"You've not enough minerals."
"You must construct additional pylons."


Now listen, I would donate, but my PayPal is empty


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Quote: "Mistrel, what's this? Not up to date with your Starcraft lingo?"


Obviously, I play Zerg.

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