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Reatached and remade i think it might be with the fact i made it run as an administor. Don't know.

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For those of you sitting on your hands (sorry, work will pick up soon, I promise), begin brainstorming. Work out the story, controls, and every other nook and cranny of our game. Once the map editor is done, we can go full tilt into production (again, sorry for the wait).

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I think I'll start working on the towns people. Since they wont be moving around or attacking, their whole image can fit in a 32x32 pixel.

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Would you want to use a 32x32 for towns people or just stick with the 64x64?

Or maybe we can just treat the towns people as object tiles because they aren't moving?
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Lets make the townspeople a 64x64 and put them in a full set (you don't need all of the images, just get one for each direction and place it where it should go, that way, if/when we want expansion, we can make them move.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2009 21:14 Edited at: 4th Mar 2009 21:16
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@ people

Did the exe work, could it save answer please. Need the feed back too continue on the load system.

Also Bn2 you program didnt run because it said it couldnt find d3drm.dll do you know what it is.

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Never mind i got the dll and it works properly. (Its an old directX dll that not many programs use so Vista doesnt have it hahaha)

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@Stefan

I tried saving the weapon, and the program stopped working. Not sure why.

Also, another thing: why are you inputting strings for the integer values? Is it because you don't want to use str$() when you write the file? Or a different reason?

@Everyone

I will work on some brainstorming (if I can get any time: I've got to study for a big US History test coming up soon)

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ok i guess im in, i made the clock but no1 told me if im in. im ready 4 a task if u need 1 done. my clock is in the noobs wanted thread if u need 2 check it
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Posted: 5th Mar 2009 03:01 Edited at: 5th Mar 2009 03:02
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A spot for media gathering is open if you think you can handle it. Right now my main focus is just on images then will move to sound and music later on.


-Open Tasks-

Story: We need someone to plot out the storyline and come up with boss/mini boss. This should be as simple a story as can be.

Dialog: Need to figure how how we'll handle this. This is for talking to towns people, boss intros, opening chests (if any), etc. Need a Dialog Editor.

Animation Tester: BN2 is currently working on one but he's also currently more busy with the Map Editor. If anyone is able to complete one then that'll also be useful.

If I'm lacking details just ask.
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wat kind of images?
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Quote: "wat kind of images? "

*Think* What do we need for this project to work? We need 32x32 pixel tiles of terrains, objects such as tables/chairs, characters, etc.

Note: Things wont come nice and perfect, most resource you find will have to be modified to meet our needs.

Because I'm currently not gathering any sound/music at this stage, that's also an option for you.

If you're not a media type person, then stick with coding as this might be a bit challenging. I'm actually an artist so this is not too hard for me.
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media would be better for me because on weekdays i only have access to my programming computer 1-2 hours a day and that is something i can do pretty much anywhere, ill get right on it. Also wat kind of terrain, cave, grass, room, etc?
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Quote: " cave, grass, room, etc? "

Yup, just the common 2d tiles you see in them old games. Also, take a look at our current tileset. It was posted by me a few post back.
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ok so basically any terrain, ill get to work
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Tiles are kept in a 10x10 set and stored into image files. So each image is 100 tiles total.

Here's an example.
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Posted: 5th Mar 2009 03:50 Edited at: 5th Mar 2009 03:58
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o tnx for that post, i was storing em all individually, glad u told me that b4 i got 2 many made

is there really any pattern or plan to the order of the images, or is it kinda random?
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It's kinda random, I just try to clump up what may seem to be similar.
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Posted: 5th Mar 2009 04:09 Edited at: 5th Mar 2009 16:54
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good cuz mine is quite random, im now about 1/10 of the way done, not bad for me

[will edit wen i get each row of 10 done]

2/10 rows of 10 done
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Figured I should edit mine too, otherwise there would be no point to my pointing out that you posted your age

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@ Quirky it is because if someone inputs a letter or string by mistake it won't matter and they can redo it also the array im using is a string array, randomstring$(2,1,1) for example. I think something is wrong at this part

Wow Im near that age.

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Posted: 5th Mar 2009 16:56 Edited at: 6th Mar 2009 01:31
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hey ashingda, r some of the tiles supposed to be blank like in your example?
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What is it doing and what should it be doing?

btw, I would suggest indenting your for->next loops like so:



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Crashing the program, saveing the array allequipment$(7,99,4)

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Posted: 5th Mar 2009 22:00 Edited at: 5th Mar 2009 22:25
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Oh, save array doesn't require all of the subcategories, just the main ones. So you would do SAVE ARRAY "allequipment.arr",allequipment$(7)

I always use the .arr extention for arrays, just to make them easier to see, but it doesn't really matter.

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Here is my mapmaker. All thats left now is add some quick passability stuff and the save function, but I wanted to make sure that I am not missing anything.

And for the tilesets, could you guys make sure to keep tile 51 (the first one on the 6th row) black? That would help immensely as the map maker expects that.

Once again, to use the program, first you choose your tileset file (when the open box first pops up) then you can draw. The entities layer is done for the most part, will re-post the compiled program later when I throw in the code to place an image for an entity. In the entity layer (yellow) double click on a grid space to open the entity editor and then click in the areas to change different properties.

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I'll start work on the Dialogue editor/displayer. Wish me luck! Any requests?

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Make the box Scale in or Fade in (fade might be tricky, but scaling shouldn't be a problem)! Also, for the graphic for the window, just use a small square for simplicity, no bigger than the message box will be high, then you can just scale it.

Or, you can use a 3x3 tile system, and for the borders you use the tiles from the edge and file it in the center.

Your choice, there are several ways to do this, or if you have a better way, go ahead.

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Posted: 6th Mar 2009 01:27 Edited at: 6th Mar 2009 01:30
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BN2 ur exe wont work, d3drm.dll file not found

also ashingda, r u making ur tiles or finding them on internet, ive been finding em and scaling, cropping, etc to make em work and i wanted to ask b4 i got much farther
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Quote: "finding them on internet"


*gasp*

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wasnt that wat i was supposed 2 do? he didnt tell me to make them, so i assumed he meant find them

also am i supposed 2 make/find NPC images? those ill prolly make
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But, for some questions:

Is the dialogue going to be at the bottom or at the person's position?

Btw, this is how I'm thinking of doing it:

You input filename, [image number if at person's pos], and text, then choose any specials:

Specials:

*Scale In
*Fade in (maybe)
*Special color (e.g. 1 for boss, 2 for player, etc. - on a system like 1,2,4,8 so that you can add them together to get unique sets)
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(suggest any you would like, I'll update)

Then the file looks like this:

Test.dia

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|Test.dia|
| Dialogue File |
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[image number if we use that]
[dialogue]
[special sum]

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im confused on what u mean by dialogue, do u mean like the player types something and it appears or pre-programmed statements that the player/NPC "says"?
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It's text that NPC's "say"

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Hey guys, sorry to have taken so long to pop in... I'm DYING to help out with this, but my windows is a lost cause , and It's going to be a few months probably before I can program again. So tell me if there's something I can do, even though I dont have DarkBASIC, and I'd love to do it.


Cheers,

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Two words:

EMOTIONAL SUPPORT



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LOL! Prolly best thing is media, preferably music since im clueless and i believe ashingda is also.
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Fix the d3drm error by downloading it and placing it in C:\Windows\System\ Folder.

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hey bn2 just a suggestion for the slider make a dotted box for it becuase right now all you see is the arrows and everything else blends in you can make one that looks like windows really easy.

i made it for my file selector. just do it like this



then get the image seems to work pretty good for me just saying though. tested it it works (btw if you just run this its slow but i have used it and it works pretty good and fast although u could just make it then save the image if you want lol
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wat kind of music we need? ill look around and try to find a shareware music maker, but i cant guarantee nething

also ashingda, r some of the tiles supposed to be blank like in your example?
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There is only 1 tile that HAS to be blank, that is tile 51. Here is a numbered tileset that will show which one is 51.

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i knew about 51 but in ashingdas example several were black
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It isn't necessary, the image just gets chopped up into squares anyway.

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k and wat kind of music we need?
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Homemade, if you please!

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i meant genre
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Here are the locations we will DEFINITELY have in the first release:

Field
Dungeon
Boss
House

Just some generic stuff is fine, make sure they are seemless, that is, that they can be looped without sounding weird.

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ok ill try to make something, but im not guna guarantee it till its made
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There is also plenty of royalty free music online, so if you have trouble, I am sure we could find some stuff.

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im sure i can find a way to make some, tnx for the tip tho
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Hey ashingda, about that tileset that you made before. I have some comments:

For the second half, I like the water's edge parts, those are a nice touch. However, the water tile should be on the first layer.

Anything for terrain should be on the first layer, whereas decals/objects should be on the second layer.

The tileset key is: Tiles 1-50=Layer 1 51-100=Layer 2 . If this isn't enough room, we can do Layer1=Tiles 1-100 and Layer 2=Tiles 101-200, but that will mean a bigger image, but I thought we decided against that one.

Also, please don't forget that tile 51 needs to be a black square, so that by default, nothing is drawn.

Thanks for your help and good job so far!

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do we need music as MIDI, or will any form work?
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