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Apple Slicer
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Terry- That is strange, but yet is still good to know. Thanks.

john-Yes you can do all those things. (water color,airmod)

Also, I am considering trying out dual wield. No promises on that though.

The new commands will not be released to public, only our beta testers, until the full version is complete.
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john schwarcz
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Posted: 6th May 2009 06:29 Edited at: 6th May 2009 06:32
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sweet! i may get this mod instead?!!?! how much will it cost, will it have the new airmod, and when you said yes to all, did you mean to mirgration too??!??!?!?! if t has dual wield oh my god!! and the blood spurt is there anyway it can be edited (if i can do it myself , i would love to know how lol) so it looks like real blood not blood mist, ok, i feel really bad for leaving blue, but i really need ragdoll and bloom (and the other stuff, lol) no descicions yet, but will hopefully decide which soon (either way both are great)
(by the way, if there is anyway you can give me a sneak preview of the mod and its new commands that would be amazing ([email protected]) but i understand if not, after all, im no better then everyone else


wow i just reread this thread...and i gotta say, im proud s4real and ply, are giving feedback and helping this mod/thread, even though they are making a different one. great sportsmanship guys (and the same to the wizzmod guys)

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Posted: 6th May 2009 06:45 Edited at: 6th May 2009 06:47
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It will cost 5 us dollars.

Also, we already have BETA testers. As I said, when the mod is done, we will do what Blue did. You can test games, but not build them unless you buy.

And yes, Ply and the others have been very kind.
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Posted: 6th May 2009 06:49
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great mod! expect a purchase before the contest is over!

thanks

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Posted: 6th May 2009 07:03
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GamerDude- Awesome!

John- Please don't mistake what we are saying.

This mod is incomplete. There are still tons and tons of things to do. I will be honest, bloom and dual guns may not happen.

It all depends. It is a lot of work to make a good mod.

Also, all mods have different purposes. Ply's mod was made for scripting. Now the blue mod is made for scripting and speed.

Our mod was originally for graphical effects, and speed ups, however, it is now becoming a great scripting mod.

Just wait a bit. Both of these mods are changing drastically.
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Yes, be grateful that you are not one of the ones coding it. Take what you can get, my friend. I'll do some more testing in a bit, here.

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john schwarcz
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Posted: 6th May 2009 07:45 Edited at: 6th May 2009 07:47
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okay i really do hope that bloom and daul happen, but if not its okay, (though the bloom i really need, so i dont know what im gonna do without it ) and ya i know that making mods take a while, i could never do what you guys are doing, and i want you to know, that i along with everyone else greatly appreciate what you are doing
(maybe for wizzmod v2 i could help you guys out in some way, i dont know what i can do, im not really good at anything other then level creation and such, but i guess i can help think of new ideas )
ps: im sorry if you think im being harsh, this mod is great, i was just trying to learn a couple things about the mod, thanks for baring with me
pps: this mod is already awsome, cant wait the see the free version, and hopefully buy the full version when i get the money
ppps: lol, if you guys need any ideas of stuff to add on just ask me lol im stuffed full of ideas but its great as is anyways (oh and one more Q. will airmod SE be implemented when ready? )

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Posted: 6th May 2009 07:50
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I dont know airmods plans for that edition. He may not give the code away for free.

Anyway, its fine. Its just a trial and error kind of thing, so yeah, it takes a bit of time.

Also, bloom will kill fpsc's framerates, so be warned.

Note: If we get LOD working, it will be in there for sure...
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john schwarcz
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Posted: 6th May 2009 07:52
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what is LOD

(if i have enough money, and you dont want to buy the airmod SE source, could i buy it for you? )

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Posted: 6th May 2009 07:55
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Well, if SE source is availible only through purchasing yes...

but it would pry cost more than this mod alone!

I dont know, we will see how it all pans out
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Lod is in almost all games. You know how sometimes when you are playing a game, and the mountain far away looks all square, and when you get up close to it, it looks nice?

That is lod.

It helps performance tremendously.
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Posted: 6th May 2009 07:57
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great cant wait!

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Posted: 6th May 2009 08:08
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LOD = Level of Detail

Basically, the further you are from something, the lower the detail on that will be. It's an optimization technique... nothing truly fascinating, actually. If it's done right, no one will even know it's there.


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Posted: 6th May 2009 08:12
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Yeah, and its hell to put in the code!

It likes to give error messages...
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I don't know what I was seeing. I have rebooted and then ran FPSC and the dynamic lighting seems to be working in my finished level.

I will be discussing this with Lee.

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john schwarcz
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Posted: 6th May 2009 09:01
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it would be cool if you could change the brightness of lights, without changing the range, maybe that could be a feature to include i bet it would help alot of people (me included lol)

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Posted: 6th May 2009 12:14
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Quote: "RAGDOLL (just for you john)"


Ummm... I do not think you're gonna be able to do that...

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If this has all that, I will be purchasing it, but only if it has airmod. Airmod is like the backbone of most mods, and is almost mandatory IMO.

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Posted: 6th May 2009 13:56
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@john:

There's already a command for that, it's called "LightIntensity".


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john schwarcz
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Posted: 6th May 2009 15:32
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oh thanks so much ply! (this one doesnt change the light range right? ) how do i use it

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Posted: 6th May 2009 16:41
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Quote: "Ummm... I do not think you're gonna be able to do that..."


As I mentioned earlier, it will be looked into. I am pretty sure that it is possible with some time and work.
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Well, bloom and ragdoll are very hard but they are things we are very interested in adding. Like apple slicer said, there is still a lot of work to do and there is not guarantee that they will be added but I will do my best


Quote: "if you guys need any ideas of stuff to add on just ask me lol im stuffed full of ideas"


Please share your ideas, or email one of us, all ideas and suggestions are welcome and appreciated

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Posted: 6th May 2009 19:20
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Hey, is there anyone here with some good dbp know how willing to help me with some stuff over IM? Sorry for the hijack but i thought that it would be best to ask here as the help i need is geared towards this.

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Posted: 6th May 2009 19:21
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Maybe you should get involved with the "open 1.15 source"
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@Asteric - Whats your problem and then I will tell you if i can help you?
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Well, i am making a small program or game if you will in DBP, and im having trouble with things like shadows, bloom etc. and how to properly incorporate them, think you can help?

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Quote: "Well, i am making a small program or game if you will in DBP, and im having trouble with things like shadows, bloom etc. and how to properly incorporate them, think you can help?"



Erm, we are wondering the same thing. Bloom is hard to do..
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Yeah, its not just that, its just, most of all i am stuck understanding shadows mostly, i cant find much on how it works.

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Bloom is very hard to do and shadows arent easy either but might i direct you to this post:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=79849&b=8

This has shader which allow can provide you with bloom etc...

Hope it helps
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Yeah i had a look at that, but it comes up with a nice selection of errors when i need to compile, would either of you be able to talk over IM?

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I cant at the minute sorry, I can add you and try and talk to you later or tomorrow, although you might be better to make a topic about your errors in the dbpro board. I would be happy to try and help but I find shaders a bit confusing, so i might not be the best person to ask.
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Ask Ply or Airslide. They know everything.

Seriously though...
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Ok will do, sorry for the hijack guys

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Yeah, they are probably far better people to ask, they are geniuses lol And very helpful too.
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Maybe, if you are REALLY lucky, you could ask DG.

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Anyway back on topic, I have added a way of setting the next level, ie, previously you had to start level 1 then 2 then 3.... now you can choose so you can make it jump from level 1 to 20 to 12 to 2 etc.... This will be great for anybody who want to make an RPG style game or free roam style game...

Anyway I think you will like it
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i am currently trying to get bloom in 1.15 for my own, but it does not work for me...
i continue my work, but its not as easy as it was in 1.07 (dont know why!)

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How is bloom even acheived? Is it through shaders on the camera? Or being cheap and using the blur thing?
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shaders on a separate camera projected on a quad put in front of the main camera. complicated I know. fullscreen shaders are a pain in the ... unspeakables

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Yeah, just a bit...

I think it might be a while before bloom makes an appearance in this mod lol
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oh i have too many suggestions lol, just ask me with a detailed descripion off what type of thing you want to add, and ill give you ideas lol,

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Great we will contact you soon!
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john schwarcz- You can contact me at my comcast email if you wish. We will further discuss "things" then.

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my email is [email protected] for anyone who needs it

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just wondering, is there any way this could be ply intergrated too? or naw?(and what shaders does this have)

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What do you mean by "Ply" integrated?

EDIT: Any shaders will work with this.
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have plys scripts in it?

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Well, only 2-3. We dont want to be cheap-os and jack Plys hard-worked-for ideas. We have much different ones, thanks to Hockeykid.
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Quote: "thanks to Hockeykid."


Well, that right there is to much credit, lets be honest you guys are the ones that are adding all of the ideas.

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Posted: 7th May 2009 06:04 Edited at: 7th May 2009 06:15
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lol i really cant wait, but if you guys ask ply, maybe you can merge mods, his is free anyways isnt it, you could even charge 10$ instead of 5$ itd deffinityl be worth it
and when are you guys gonna get to work on wizz mode v2 lol, i know this one hasnt come out yet, but there is only so much you can give away for 5$ you dont want to use up all you ideas on v1, you should post a "wizz mod v2 idea thread" for some outside help (like my huge email i sent you apple (i think it was apple lol))
ps: i have to say, this mod is getting way better then i excpected, i thuoght it was going to be another "just performance mod" but keep improving graphics, and adding new stuff that other mods dont have, and that five dollar price will be for the demo!

(Removed Buggy Blood Hud until fixed- when fixed, what will it look like) how many new scripts are you guys adding all together

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Wow, a lot has gone on since I last checked this thread.

Here's an idea I had for a while but never got around to working on:
Instead of just adding Bloom or DoF or Motion Blur or w/e, how about adding a .ini that users could input their desired Full Screen shaders into and have the system load them and apply them appropriately? Of course, some of these full screen shaders require additional input from the engine, so coupling this with a script for each would allow things like Motion Blur to happen as well.

With that in place, you wouldn't have to worry about putting in Bloom or anything like that yourself, the users could do it.


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