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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 10th Aug 2009 11:02 Edited at: 10th Aug 2009 11:12
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When I get the time to dig out Final Fantasy VIII from wherever the hell a put it, I'll test it. It worked under Vista with a slight tweak. Mind you I have a copy of The Summoner sitting beneath my speaker so I might try that also (which didn't work in Vista), just to see how compatible it is with older games.


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I just installed Win7 on a seperate partition yesterday, but it ruined my primary partition, so I just ended up formatting and installing Win7(RC) as my only OS. So far I have been very happy with it, and have yet to experience a single problem with it. Also, I got the 64-bit version (as opposed to my 32-bit version of Vista), so my computer works a tad faster now, which is a nice bonus

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Is there any way to tell whether or not you can run a 64-bit OS? I'm unsure whether or not my hardware is 64 bit compatible, if it is I wouldn't mind testing out Windows 7 64bit. My computer is only a year old, so I would imagine it'd have the tech for it.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2009 13:13 Edited at: 10th Aug 2009 13:13
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Look in your System Properties, find the model number of your CPU, Google it.



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Posted: 10th Aug 2009 14:47
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I had no problem with my games except for some older 2-d ones like age of empires II. It is still playable, but the colors are slightly glitched (especially water, it is purple) and when you try to save, the game freezes and then crashes (but at least the save was successful).

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Posted: 10th Aug 2009 14:59 Edited at: 10th Aug 2009 14:59
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Quote: "I had no problem with my games except for some older 2-d ones like age of empires II. It is still playable, but the colors are slightly glitched (especially water, it is purple)"


Interestingly, this happens to me sometimes on Vista (or perhaps XP? I haven't played in a long time). I sometimes used to have to restart it 15 times to get it normal. Shame, as it's such a great game.
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To those of you wanting to try out the 64-bit edition: I don't recommend it unless you do have at least 4GB's of RAM, as the 64-bit edition is slower on lower end computers. Only high-end machines really get a benefit from it.

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Quote: "4GB's of RAM"
I got 8GB of RAM


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Quote: "I got 8GB of RAM"


Then, by all means, go for it!

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Posted: 11th Aug 2009 13:48 Edited at: 11th Aug 2009 13:49
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Quote: "I got 8GB of RAM"


I would double my machine up to 8GB also, if it weren't for the fact that DDR3 PC3-8500 pushes the cost up to about £500 for 2x 4GB sticks

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@David R - You only have 2 slots?

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I think he has a Macbook. And a motherboard I bought last week here has only two slots.

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Quote: "I would double my machine up to 8GB also, if it weren't for the fact that DDR3 PC3-8500 pushes the cost up to about £500 for 2x 4GB sticks"
This isn't DDR3. Only DDR2 800.

Going to wait before I do the i7 upgrade. Still to expensive to justify it!

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Yeah, i7 is waaaay to expensive for the little boost it gives you over a phenom II system.

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Quote: "This isn't DDR3. Only DDR2 800."


Yeah, but my machine is DDR3, which was my point (which is great minus the price of the RAM)

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I've downloaded Windows 7, haven't installed it yet. Just recently built a new system for my gf and put XP-64 on it and she hates it because it's not Vista. And I'm trying really hard to keep her from buying a copy of Vista. It's what she had on her last system so its all she wants to use. Another problem we had with XP is that Adobe products only work on XP 32-bit and Vista 32/64, but not a 64-bit XP. Adobe support officially told her X64 was no supported with CS3. So what I think I'm gonna do is install Windows 7 on her system and see how we like it.

I've heard decent things about it so far, so I'm hoping it works for now

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preordering w7 on a student price this friday so I'll see how ti runs. hoping for the best with these reviews


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Haven't downloaded it because I don't have my own computer to install it on, but every review I've read about the RC has praised it highly.
I've browsed Microsoft's dedicated Win7 page over and over again, almost drooling over 7 because it looked and sounded so good. I've never used Vista and never plan to; I simply heard too many horror stories about getting the BSOD once a day and the forever-mysterious file transfer speeds (13345 days, 6 hours remaining...). My plan is to purchase a computer from Dell sometime around Christmas, and that way Win7 will already be installed on it. I then plan to turn it into a game programming machine with DarkBASIC Pro, and possibly a second hard drive for video editing needs.

Sorry, that was all rather off-topic. The point is, I can't wait to get my hands on Win7 and I'm very glad people here are reviewing it.

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there are a lot of horror stories about vista that go untold but be sure and let us know how it turns out for you

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Quote: "there are a lot of horror stories about vista that go untold but be sure and let us know how it turns out for you
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Yeah, like the one that's about how Vista isn't nearly as bad as everyone says.

Quote: "the BSOD once a day and the forever-mysterious file transfer speeds (13345 days, 6 hours remaining...)."

Never had the BSOD problem. 32bit and 64bit both ran great for me.
The file transfer speeds... never had that problem. But I'll say this: I have yet to use an OS that doesn't have a crappy file transfer.

Windows 7 is great. I've been using the full Business version for a month now, and the RC for months before that. It's very solid. I just wish there were more Gadgets. Mac OS X has an endless supply of amazing Widgets, but Gadgets on Vista/7 fail.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 00:02 Edited at: 21st Oct 2009 00:02
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I've always wondered what this fascination with Widgets/Gadgets is. Why bother when a proper program could probably do the same job better? (click anywhere off your program by accident in OS X and Dashboard closes, Vista's Gadgets are... ugly. Why does it have to make my screen look dirty?)

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Quote: "Why does it have to make my screen look dirty?"


Doesn't Victoria's Secret do that already?

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I am definatly going to get Windows 7... just have to see how well it works on my laptop and a few program compability things. I really hope it will work well on it, since I have issues with Vista on it... but a friend of mine has the same laptop, he installed Windows 7, and it worked like a charm.

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Been using the RC for a while now and it's great! Never had a problem! Vista wasn't too bad but after a while it started playing up, hence the switch over to W7.

I also got to try virtual XP mode, and I'm actually a little disappointed! It runs really slow, and I know I can support it! I've got the Q6600 Quad Core and 8GB of RAM! I assigned 2GB to virtual XP but it's still a little sluggish!

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Quote: "I also got to try virtual XP mode, and I'm actually a little disappointed! It runs really slow, and I know I can support it! I've got the Q6600 Quad Core and 8GB of RAM! I assigned 2GB to virtual XP but it's still a little sluggish!"

I still haven't tried it, since it's using VirtualPC. I really like virtual box, even though it doesn't integrate so closely. But it gets the job done just fine. It's pretty fast too. I like it

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I've been using 7 ultimate for two months now... it's great. It starts up way faster than vista did.

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Quote: "It starts up way faster than vista did."
That's true, about ten second boot up.

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Quote: "That's true, about ten second boot up.
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Bull. I don't believe you're booting anything in 10 seconds. 20, maybe. But not 10.

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Quote: "Bull. I don't believe you're booting anything in 10 seconds. 20, maybe. But not 10."


Depends on how much RAM and processing power one has.

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Quote: "I've always wondered what this fascination with Widgets/Gadgets is. Why bother when a proper program could probably do the same job better? (click anywhere off your program by accident in OS X and Dashboard closes, Vista's Gadgets are... ugly. Why does it have to make my screen look dirty?)"


I've never found a whole ton of use for them either. On OS X I only have a few: a calculator that takes programming-style expressions (the default calculator widget sucks), the weather, and a tap metronome that I can just position my mouse over and keep tapping either spacebar or the mouse button. Oh, and occasionally I'll use post-its when my drawer in Xpad gets too full.


Has anyone used DBP on Windows 7? Slooper tried out some of my code on 7 and it's behaving radically different for him in comparison to how it runs on my installation of XP Home SP3.

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Share your specs man! I'd love a ten second bootup.
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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 10:13 Edited at: 21st Oct 2009 10:15
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Quote: "Bull. I don't believe you're booting anything in 10 seconds. 20, maybe. But not 10."

I'm serious man!
Quote: "Depends on how much RAM and processing power one has."

Quote: "Share your specs man! I'd love a ten second bootup."

Well Quad Core (2.4GHz) and 8GB RAM. Also just to clarify I'm actually counting the 10 seconds, from when the BIOS hands over to Windows 7.



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Quote: "Has anyone used DBP on Windows 7? Slooper tried out some of my code on 7 and it's behaving radically different for him in comparison to how it runs on my installation of XP Home SP3."
I've got it installed but haven't really messed with it much. But most of my code seems to work.

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about file transfer rates and such on vista - when dealing with zips (or compressed folders) it would literally take forever to unzip a file. A file that would unzip in xp in only 20 seconds would literally take around 4-9 minutes just to unzip on vista. The only thing that I could get to actually work on it without serious problems was dark basic pro. Everything else would lock (and lock and lock )

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 22:26 Edited at: 21st Oct 2009 22:30
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Quote: "Quote: "That's true, about ten second boot up.
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Bull. I don't believe you're booting anything in 10 seconds. 20, maybe. But not 10."


I second this. Ten seconds is only possible from hibernate, not a cold start.

EDIT: Didn't see the next page.

Quote: "Also just to clarify I'm actually counting the 10 seconds, from when the BIOS hands over to Windows 7."


In that case, I could believe you, especially if you're on a fresh installation.

Quote: "about file transfer rates and such on vista - when dealing with zips (or compressed folders) it would literally take forever to unzip a file. A file that would unzip in xp in only 20 seconds would literally take around 4-9 minutes just to unzip on vista. The only thing that I could get to actually work on it without serious problems was dark basic pro. Everything else would lock (and lock and lock )"


Vista was terrible with file transfers. Thankfully, it's vastly improved in Win7 (another major reason to upgrade, if you frequently transfer large files like I do).

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Actually I've found that as I continued to use Windows 7, it got faster at booting! Also I have next to none startup programs!


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Quote: "Actually I've found that as I continued to use Windows 7, it got faster at booting!"


If you know what your doing, it does get faster for awhile (defragging, eliminating services, etc.).

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I honestly just dont see a vital need to purchace yet another "windows", for 150+ dollars. XP is fine and Vista is ok with service pack.

I haven't seen a feature that is so critical I can justify spending the money on it.
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When I got vista I timed it, and it took 11 seconds. That 1 seconds really makes a difference.

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Personally I think it's good, in fact from what I can see it looks and works exactly like Vista does. So why is 7 loved and Vista hated still?

Whatever. It isn't good enough to do yet another reformat and upgrade to, XP x64 is good enough for me.

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Quote: "So why is 7 loved and Vista hated still?"


Because it's much faster and more stable. Win7 RC was more stable for me than Vista SP2.

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