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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] Horror Mod - For Sale

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 03:37
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ok, well i dont really care who gets it as long as they maintain your hard work i think is the most important thing.

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mAcpo
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Hi knxrb,
I sent the payment for Horror Mod last Sunday. Would you mind refunding my money? I sent an email to you earlier today inquiring about the status of my order, then tonight I stopped by the forum to see that you have put Horror Mod up for sale and I still have not received a reply to my email or my order.

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Why shouldn't he sell it to more than one person?

- Simple. For the same reason people don't like the current Mod community. They are forced to choose between Mods. If you sell the source to more than one person, your already existing customers are going to be divided between whatever Mods spawn from this one. If he sells it to GJ and hockeykid, the current HM customers don't have one single place to go and they're not assured to have the same features derived in each Mod... but to be honest, they would have much more features from Fenix Mod because of it's already extensive base features.


In my eyes, you should only sell it to one person. Your keys will be easier to track, your customers will be more satisfied without a fork in the road, and you can rest easy knowing your mod is in good hands (and not being thrown around on the internet).


The one and only,


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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 04:48
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Agreed
Now for you to decide which of us.

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yohan12
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 05:41
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I want hockeykid to have it

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Kravenwolf
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 06:26 Edited at: 16th Dec 2009 06:29
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Quote: "They are forced to choose between Mods. If you sell the source to more than one person, your already existing customers are going to be divided between whatever Mods spawn from this one."


Meh, it wouldn't really make it any different from the community deciding between which mods are available to them now. Project Blue, Fenix Mod, EFX Mod, Snake Mod, "Confederate Mod", etc.

In this case, Fenix Mod and "Confederate Mod" would just happen to be two seperate mods that both have Horror Mod source features integrated into them. Existing Horror Mod customers would be freely able to decide which mod they would prefer to go with, and then take it from there. The developers are going to support the people that use their mod anyway, regardless of what features they're asking about, right? So I think it would be the matter of the 'existing Horror Mod customers' making the transition to either Fenix Mod or "Conferderate Mod" (Either of which wouldn't be using the same key anymore anyway). But that's just my 2 cents

Kravenwolf

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Thraxas
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 09:57
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As far as I can tell Horror Mod is pretty stable at the moment, and in terms of adding more stuff, for me, there's no rush.

So unless you're selling it because you need the money right now, I would be happy to wait until you have more free time to work on it.

I think your best bet would be to get another programmer on your team and split the money made. Going by your projections earlier in the thread you'll make more like this than by selling it.
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Blind Digger
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 11:30
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GJ check your email

you have my support

Best Stephen
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budokaiman
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 15:23
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Quote: "Why shouldn't he sell it to more than one person?"

Not having the same components, actually having choices for their mod, I think is a good thing. It could be incorporated into Fenix, or multiple people could work on the source at once, all expanding it further, at a faster rate.

This signature is legen-wait for it... dary };]
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 15:55
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Project Blue...

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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 16:04
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Blind Digger: I am speechless, thanks so much!
Check your mail


Everyone: my bid is now at $160.00!!!

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ZackS28
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Quote: "Everyone: my bid is now at $160.00!!!"


Damn! Quick, where is that donate button hockeykid?!?!?

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DarkFrost
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...I return to see this. What a bunch of nonsense. An auction for a mod? In my belief money is not everything for who should receive the mod. Remember money may be able to buy the new user the mod but it will not buy them support for their customers, new features etc. Someone with current experience and knowledge of modding the source code should receive this. A bid amongst those with experience is what shall occur, not beginners hoping to throw their wallets at a most-likely pathetic attempt at cashing in on someone else work.

I believe hockeykid should receive the mod. Whether he is underbid by 10 or so dollars, I think knxrb would feel a little more comfortable knowing all his hard work and time was spent well. And to give the mod to someone with a high-degree of experience would sit perfectly with him, because he knows his mod will grow not perish.

Tho, I have no say in this "game" so good luck to whoever shall be the proud new owner and I hope for the best when it comes to growing this mod into something incredible. Whether that would be GJ, Hockeykid or anyone else.

Good day to everyone! Hopefully when I Cyclone returns another couple days I hope to see a great conclusion to this mess


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knxrb
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 21:14 Edited at: 16th Dec 2009 21:15
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@Cyclone: This isn't a 'game', this is merely a chance for users to purchase the source code if they want to.
If I wasn't doing this then I would just simply remove Horror Mod from the forums and then no-one would get it.

And if you don't like this 'mess' then don't look at the thread.

knxrb

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DarkFrost
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I'm fully aware and understand what the current situation is. I was just stating what I believe should occur. Rather than having HR mod sold to someone that would perform pathetic with it, I thought it should go to one that knows their way 'round the source code.

Btw yeah it is a good idea, at least your work won't be forgotten.


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A r e n a s
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 21:41 Edited at: 16th Dec 2009 21:44
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I reckon that it would be good if you could sell certain features. Surely some of the features (obviously not all) consist of a single chunk of code. You could then sell a few of these chunks on to other mods, like PB, Fenix ect...

Im not a heavy programmer so don't batter me down if you cant do this. I know that obviously some features will be too hard to isolate, as the code will be split up and be divided among the program.

PS, If you do keep it and split the work between two people, I would love to have a look at the code. I'm a quick learner and Im studying lots of Computering aspects atm. I am secure with knowledge up to file commands, 2D commands, Basic 3D commands and stuff and i can recall most of it without reference. For what i make at the moment that is sufficient knowledge, but i would love to have a look at some code to help me learn. I have read through the original FPSC V1.15 already and i picked up several tricks which doesn't appear in the books.

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Hyperion
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 21:58
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Well in this big er, "Vote" thing which actually has no impact whatsoever on who gets it i think,i would choose hockeykid.
I choose hockeykid fer the same reason as everybody.Fenix Mod + Ragdoll,particle etc FREE?!!??!?
Its like insane to not love that.I know knxrb probably wants to gain some monatery status out of this,but still hockeykid would be fully capable of maintaning and expanding this.No offense to GJ though.He has less "followers" but the ones he does have donate much more lol
Just my opinion,no offense to anyone if anyone somehow takes this the wrong way
-Hyperion

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Blind Digger
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:14
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I go with GJ.
I like how keen he is.
As Thraxas said the mod is pretty stable at the moment so we have a good mod already.
I think GJ will work hard to make it work for him.
Hockeykid has more experience and may do things quicker but I think GJ could learn a lot from this.

Just my thoughts Stephen
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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:15
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Who wants to see a helicopter video?

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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:18
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So knxrb is it a deal? $160?

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Blind Digger
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:25
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OK GJ show us.

Stephen
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Hyperion
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:25
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@General Jackson
I want to see the helicopter vid but thats a little off subject...
I may want hockey to get the mod,but if Jackson gets it,im sure it will be in good hands,and maybe he will add his heli and lense flare to it,though monatary stuff for it might be a turn-off for me...
-Hyperion

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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:30 Edited at: 16th Dec 2009 22:35
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Ok gimme a minute to compress it, I just realised its 219 MB


{edit} uploading the vid to my site

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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:42
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Ok, video is up on my website!

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Hockeykid
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:44
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Quote: "Ok, video is up on my website!"


Why did you load a Matrix? and hows collision?

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Robert F
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:47 Edited at: 16th Dec 2009 22:48
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Im Offering $250... but, I may not be able to pay for it for a little while.
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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 22:54 Edited at: 16th Dec 2009 22:56
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Quote: "Why did you load a Matrix?"

Because I havent ported the Helicopter to the FPSC yet, just finished fixing some of the bugs.
I will show it in FPSC in a bit after I make the .fpi action command.
Collision? Its not too bad but needs a bit of work, when I had the old version in FPSC you could sometimes fly right through a building

{edit} check out my blog

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Blind Digger
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 23:13
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GJ replyed to mail if you don't get it mail me again.

Good luck Stephen
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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 23:17
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Sent you an email.
Link to video video

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Roger Wilco
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That's the most unrealistic helicopter simulation I've ever seen.
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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Dec 2009 23:42
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ok? I know you hate me but you dont have to display your ignorance.
As stated above the video I am adding even more controls.
Dont display your Ignorance in public.

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Ekipshi
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Ok Let me get this all straight. Knxrb, offers the source up for his horror mod.

Now ALL of a sudden GJ decides he'll do a mod, of which proof all we have is a video of helicopter flying(?) (To be honest don't quite see a use for that )

Or, we could leave it to Hockeykid who's already got an amazing mod underway with plenty of scripting commands to allow for a more creative game experience.

Honestly, I vote for Fenix.
No offense at all to GJ, but I think Fenix may have a little more experience
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Sandante
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knxrb@

Dont see this as an attack. but as a honest opinion.

When i bought the HM, i was realy excited about it, i saw a great future in this mod. lots of possibilities etc..

But now 5 months later you have decided to sell HM.
Its okay if you dont have time anymore, thats life!!

But already 33 persons have bought it and still want to work with it, like i do. and dont want to see it like a waste of time and money.

So my advice is to give it to a person who is capable to handle this mod, and already has experience with mods,
so your customers still have faith in HM,
Fenix mod is the most qualified in my opinion.

And if its a money matter, sell it to more people, this way you could make more money, and its better to your customers,
because they can decide what mod they are using with HM extra's.

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knxrb
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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 00:40 Edited at: 17th Dec 2009 00:42
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Ok, GJ, do you mind making a thread for your mod so that this thread can be solely for the sale of Horror Mod?
I know you want the source and everything but it is the wrong thread for your helicopters and videos.

@Robert F: I have noted your offer.

@GJ: I've noted yours as well.

@Everyone else: I am reading your posts and taking all opinions and feedback on board, it makes interesting reading and some posts are re-inforcing my own thoughts at this time.

knxrb

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General Jackson
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Ekshipi: I have been wanting to do a mod for a long time, if you dig throught the forum you'll see a good amount of posts about it.
I have been using DBP for a while now and am getting a lot better.
So Hockeykid is so capable and I am not as capable? If that is what yall mean then your being illogical.
If Hockeykid (I say IF) is more capable than I, which may I suggest there is no way you can know who is more 'capable', then why shouldnt I have it since he can code it so wonderfully well himself? That is illogical.

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dark peanut
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Quote: "So Hockeykid is so capable and I am not as capable?"

Yes.

dark peanut

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If you want to find who has the best capabilities, give people that want it a week to create something in DBPro from scratch. at the end of the week see who created the best program and offer it to them. If they really had the motivation for this, they would spend the entire week working on it to create something great. The results would show their dedication and their capabilities of programming and what they could add to HM.

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Quote: "@Everyone else: I am reading your posts and taking all opinions and feedback on board, it makes interesting reading and some posts are re-inforcing my own thoughts at this time.

knxrb"


hey while your reading and responding to all these posts would you mind refunding my money? You don't seem to be that busy as you have the time to post on the forums but not respond to paying customers. I also filed a paypal dispute.

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Quote: "Quote: "So Hockeykid is so capable and I am not as capable?"
Yes.

dark peanut"


Same. you even said that you were going to leave FPSC not too long ago. who says your not going too do that again

thats my opinion

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General Jackson
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Quote: "you even said that you were going to leave FPSC not too long ago. "

Ok? What has that got to do with coding a mod in DBpro?
If I did leave FPSC I would be using Dbp extensively, meaning more time to mod
So, sorry, fail

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I personally don't think GJ is mature enough to receive the source for Horror Mod.

Giving it to Hockeykid is the best option because you know that he is going to do something with it. Hockeykid has proved that he can keep updating his own mod, which is why giving it to Hockey is the best option.


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General Jackson
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Quote: "I personally don't think GJ is mature enough to receive the source for Horror Mod."

Ok?
There are three people that greatly dislike me on this forum, knxrb, that is why they attack me.

1. Kerrby
2. Plystire
3. Roger Wilco


Kerrby dislikes me because I got someone slapped for having a location that said "in General Jacksons poop"
I find that degrading, and the guy got slapped.
Now Kerrby hates me, and is always saying stuff against me.
Ply dislikes me because I dont reccomend his mod as highly as Fenix Mod.
Roger Wilco dislikes me because I told him off about his talking about Pornography.


So these three users are going to tell you all they can to keep the source from me.
Anyone else I am open to their opinion, wether I disagree or not.

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Not going to turn this into a flame war but your above post just prove how immature you are, not to mention all you've done is spam this entire thread.

My support still stands for Hockeykid, if you want your mod to actually go somewhere then I suggest giving it to him.

As GJ is accepting donations, as is Hockeykid. If you want to help Hockeykid get this mod, donations help .


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General Jackson
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Quote: "if you want your mod to actually go somewhere then I suggest giving it to him."

See what I mean?

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Quote: "See what I mean?"


Just look at what Hockey kid has actually done though. He helped big time on WizMod and Apple Juice Mod. Then he went on to develop Fenix Mod which he has done for free.

I haven't seen any of your work (apart from that helicopter, which wouldn't work in FPSC anyway). My best interests are in the future of this mod and my opinion (along with many others) is that HockeyKid is best fit to take over this mod.


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General Jackson
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Quote: "apart from that helicopter, which wouldn't work in FPSC anyway"

Excuse me, but do you have any basis for saying it wont work in FPSC?
See, another attack from Kerrby, just like I said.

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(I being a neutral party) I am here to just offer my opinion as i currently see this thread going. so far I notice three people taking part in this sell, you have GJ, Hockeykid, and Robert F.

Through these observation I been making over the previous posts I have concluded the following of those three choices.

GJ - Seems very anxious to get a hold of the source code for Horror Mod, BUT he is starting to show a side of immaturity that will only lower his respect on this forum and ultimately lower respect for his MOD.

Hockeykid - Proven that he can keep a MOD up to date and everything with Fenix. He would defiantly use the source to the fullest extent he can from what he has shown with Fenix.

Robert F - He just posted his price and from what I can tell from his MOD preview, he would also give the source for Horror MOD a good run. He has things like Gravity Guns, Compass, Flamethrower, etc. for his MOD.

These are just my observation made over the posts they made in this thread and over their own threads.

My final verdict would be to have it go to either Robert F or Hockeykid.

If you want a more in depth look at this, I think each person should post what they actually plan on doing with the source code and go off of that.

That is just my winded 2 cents.

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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 17th Dec 2009 05:27 Edited at: 17th Dec 2009 05:28
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I dont think this is a vote,lol, I think all of you are acting like children right now. its just a mod, wow calm down people. if its really this important to you then go get the source code.and do your own mod, then there is no need to flame this thread. you all are going to get in trouble here for it.dont get banned for something childesh like this.

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I really do have to agree with Daniel wright 2311 right now.

(personally I wouldn't mind if it was given as open-source to all of those who purchased Horror MOD)

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Quote: "Quote: "you even said that you were going to leave FPSC not too long ago. "
Ok? What has that got to do with coding a mod in DBpro?
If I did leave FPSC I would be using Dbp extensively, meaning more time to mod
So, sorry, fail"

no, you just failed. If you LEFT fpsc you wouldnt be modding anything for FPSC. Nobody cares if you are going to use Dbp if you were going to leave again because im pretty sure most people on this forum who use FPSC want a mod for FPSC and not Dbp

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