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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 02:04 Edited at: 24th Dec 2009 20:25
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So, eventually after making simple gun models, I grew better and decided to become more confident when modeling. This has taught me numerous tricks and techniques to use in future modeling. I figured out how to drastically reduce 7,000 poly's to a small 1,000 without destroying the look of the model, figured out better texturing techniques, and more.

I just thought I'd show some of my work here.

Also, please don't ask for these. I'm not allowed to distribute them as they use all or some of EAI's G36c animations. Plus, they are exclusively for Primordial

Alright, here it goes, they are in order from oldest to newest...

1) FN-FAL, I think?:



2) RPK:










And my favourite, and most recent, the FN-SCAR:










Please post the harshest criticism on the most recent ones. I personally thought the FN-FAL was a failure on texturing and High-Poly. I also thought the RPK was a disaster on texturing as well. Now the SCAR, however, I thought was good. I made it rusty, to fit Primordial.

All of the guns above are featured in 'Primordial' in the WiP section.

Cheers

PwP


EDIT: Just to clear things up, the FAL and RPK are not 100% mine, originally made by 3DRT, a brilliant modeling company. I simply edited, retextured, and rigged the for FPSC. Everything else on this thread is 100% mine, no doubt
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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 02:05
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Could you send me the SCAR? Its awesome
Not the rig, just the SCAR and I'll rig it myself.

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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 02:05 Edited at: 24th Dec 2009 02:06
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Oh, one more thing, what gun do you think I should rig next? I also desperately need Pistols, but have no clue about which one to pick Suggestions are extremely nice...

PwP

EDIT: No, sorry GJ. I worked very hard on it and am kinda... Protective? It's rigged to the G36C animations.

I could, however give you my reference pic.

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Quote: " No, sorry GJ. I worked very hard on it and am kinda... Protective? It's rigged to the G36C animations."

zno problem.
zi'll do one myself one of these days

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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 02:09
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Alright, good

Here's the reference pic I used for the SCAR:



Feel free to use it, I guess

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If you arent gonna release how are they EAI replacments ?
Anyway,very nice,likin the SCAR,but i think the other ones are good to
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They are EAI Replacements because they all replace EAI's G36c... I'm not allowed to release them because they use G36c animations.

Just because I'm not releasing them doesn't mean they don't replace anything

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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 02:27 Edited at: 24th Dec 2009 02:28
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What if i bought the G36C?Infact,i have both the G36 and Silenced versions.
You still cant release them i think
Well,why dont you buy or get the trial of Fragmotion and try to animate?We desperatly need a SCAR,i cant believe EAI hasnt made one yet....
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EDIT:Why doncha email Errant and see?Hes let people use his hands and animation and such before(look at henrys MP5SD,uses AKM animations i believe)as long as you release for free


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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 02:34
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Do you not get it? (I'm not trying to be mean, honest, please don't take it personal) It doesn't matter if you bought the G36c or not.

I already have FragMotion. You see the RPK there? It has custom animations. I've already made guns with custom animations, mate

And also, EAI already made a SCAR. He released it exclusively to AirMod SE users. But you have to e-mail him about it, it's very expensive I believe. There is a Youtube video of it search around.


Anyways, these are the next guns I plan to make:





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Great job! I like the RPK the best. Could you possibly send it to me? But they are great!

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Nope, not allowed to Uses some G36c animations.

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aww. Okay then. Thanks anyway.

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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 03:02
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They are no EAI replacements, but very nice just the same. Four days ago, you posted your first weapon model. Actually very good for a first weapon, but not much more than an extruded box with a poor stretched texture.

Your improvement in four days is no less than a full blown miracle. If think you must be some kind of modeling savant, the likes of which has never been seen on this forum. You are truly an inspiration to all of us and place a high mark for aspiring modelers to reach. I hope.

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Quote: "Your improvement in four days is no less than a full blown miracle. If think you must be some kind of modeling savant, the likes of which has never been seen on this forum. You are truly an inspiration to all of us and place a high mark for aspiring modelers to reach. I hope."

No offense but those were my thoughts exactly.

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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 03:40
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Quote: "No offense "


Why no offense? None taken, that was a great comment

Thank you so much xplosys

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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 03:47 Edited at: 24th Dec 2009 03:48
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Double Post, sorry, had to show progress on the next gun





What is that gun called anyway? Is it a Carbine? It's been a while since I played CoD, so...

Cheers will rig right now

PwP

EDIT: Oh, and if anyone has a laser dot sight (red dot, whatever) they'd feel like 'donating' I'd be really appreciative. I'd definitely add you in the credits for Primordial

I tried making one, but it was too high poly, and when I reduced it, it became virtually invisible The texture was a failure as well.

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I believe that gun it is an H&K 416

Great job on it.

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Seriously? I thought it was a Carbine and I named it a Carbine already in the guns folder Oops.

Oh, well. I got some screens of it in-game. DEFINITELY have to touch up the texture and fix texture stretching. Overall, I was only happy with the ironsights cause they lined up nicely







Will probably darken the texture, up the quality, and add scratches

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lol

Ya, I agree, a little darker, but overall, great job PW.

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Posted: 24th Dec 2009 04:29
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Thanks

I figured out how to do Red Tiger retextures, but the original texture was so low quality, it didn't affect much

Screens:







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Alright, red Tiger for the SCAR:







I think I could'a done better, but it was good enough...

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Whoa! Those look way better! Good job.

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Thanks... Anyone got any pistols you could challenge me with?

But, keep it reasonable... I ain't EAI-level. Or Fletcher for that matter, but I'm gettin' there.

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And now, I shall spam you with even MORE screens!

But really, I hope you guys don't mind me posting so much.

Did some final changes on the tiger skin, made certain parts darker, upped the quality, got shader effects workin' nicely, and added detail to the clip. *Whew*











(The last 3 screens were just showin' the shader effect workin' out great)

Again, I have no idea what to make next, give me great ideas. I do NOT do RPG's at the moment or Shotguns. Maybe Sniper Rifles if they're cool enough

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Youre killin me with these weapons.Luckily im learning this amazin stuff right now in SketchUp


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Quote: "Thanks... Anyone got any pistols you could challenge me with?"


I wouldn't mind seeing you take a shot at a VP-70 burst pistol. Ah, the good ol' Resident Evil days



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Even better than then the old textures! Great job.

As for a pistol, how about the MK23: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:TanMark23.jpg

As for a Sniper, the M15 EBR:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/m14%20ebr/-Lone_wolf-/M14EBR2-1.jpg

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Whoa! From Kravenwolf? I'm speechless! That is a great pistol mate, I don't remember it in RE though, which one, I forgot Will definitely try it now But do you want me to add the stock or not? Would definitely be a change...

At JJB,

MK23, eh? I'll get to it after Kraven's, for sure

And the picture said it was deleted (the photobucket one)...

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cool! Can't wait to see it.
Heres another pic of the M14 EBR:
http://fragcdo.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/gp-ebr-m14kit.jpg

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@PW Productions, [/off topic]. In Resident Evil 2, you could find spare parts for Leon's pistol later in the game which would upgrade it to burst fire. It's also in Resident Evil 4, called the Matilda, available after you beat the game.

[/On topic], Yes, I'd like to see it with the stock. The real pistol fires in semi-automatic, and can ONLY fire in bursts when the stock is attached (note the selector switch is on the stock).

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I'd like to see a Makarov, and I do believe the gun you had is a M4 Carbine.

EDIT: Here's a reference for the Makarov:http://www.randymays.com/makarov.jpg

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@Coach Shogun 20
Isnt Makarov some russian terrorist in Modern Warfare 2?
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Ah, ok Kraven. I made the pistol, will work on the stock (I didn't see your post when I was making it)

Yet to improve the texture, and I think it was a little too low poly, but still looked cool



And to prove it has 3D detail, the wire...



Gettin' a non-stock one FPSC-ready, will work on the stock later

@Coach Shogun,

Ah, nice I'm starting to recall a whole bunch of guns I never thought of before, thanks guys!

@JJB,

Thanks for the new pic, will work on it after the pistols

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Quote: "Isnt Makarov some russian terrorist in Modern Warfare 2?"


Yes, but the name was a Russian pistol long before that other Makarov ever came around.

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Yeah, I remember seeing it in a few other games like Syphon Filter.

On-topic, having trouble with the rig gotta go back to the model and change some stuff to make it work better...

cheers, merry almost Christmas,

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Alright, Kravenwolf, got it in game

I find that pistols are much much easier to model, yet a lot more tedious to texture and rig for some reason...

I think it should've been skinnier though, do you? Not really sure.










EAI generally doesn't seem as protective over the pistol animations as he is over the G36 anims. Maybe if I get permission I'll release a better version of this.

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That last pistol reminds me of the Halo 1 pistol, good work.


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I like it, good jobs. Yeah, I agree the texture could use some work, though.

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lol. it is a lil chunky. but maybe that is how the pistol is..

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Hmm... I never quite got the hang of weapon modeling, what program are you using?

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Thanks for the comments guys

Darimc, I'm using AC3D... I could write a tutorial if you try the trial of AC3D, or just a tutorial for any program. I use FragMotion to rig/animate.

Cheers

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EDIT: Working on the Makarov...

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The first two ( the FAL and GALIL models by 3DRT) look pretty small in the hands.

The others should look better once you get some proper UV mapping on them. The stretching totally ruins the look of any HUD weapon.

Cool to see you setting up weapons for your game.
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Ah, that's where I got 'em from! I remember I didn't make the RPK and FAL, just edited a little. Now I remember lol. I forget sometimes, gotta be careful. Yes, you're right, maybe scale them up.

[Off-Topicish] EAI, what programs do you use? I've always been curious

Yeah, I'm not too good at UVMapping. I hate stretching too. I've been working very hard on the most recent weapon, the Makarov.

Here's my progress, decided to work harder on the texture now and prevent stupid stretching.





Also, Errant, do you have any suggestions on how to make the guns look better? Like detail, texture, etc.?

And finally, do I have permission to release the VP-70mm and the Makarov once both are finished?

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Quote: "And finally, do I have permission to release the VP-70mm and the Makarov once both are finished?"


Sorry but no. I have no way to verify the content (mesh and map) is 100% created by you.
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Nice, the red looks a lil different...
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Quote: "Sorry but no. I have no way to verify the content (mesh and map) is 100% created by you. "


I can tell you they are, but I know that won't cut it. How would you like me to verify? I'd be glad to. I can verify however, that the FAL and RPK are not made by me, simple edited (originally made by 3DRT).

The SCAR is 100% made by me, and so is the M4 Carbine. I'm not really sure how to verify it... So, if you'd kindly point me in the right direction

Thanks,

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Alright, well this is the only way so far I can prove it to you...

Makarov...



And the VP...



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Quote: " I can verify however, that the FAL and RPK are not made by me, simple edited (originally made by 3DRT).
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I knew it.
You edited it out, but you had said you made them.
I dont really trust you anymore, this is NOT the first time.

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Edited what out?

I'm telling you that they're made by 3DRT, how is that untrust-worthy...?

Oh, and can we not start a flame war, stay civilized please? Thanks...

PwP


EDIT: Just saw this, didn't read it very carefully...

Quote: "You edited it out, but you had said you made them."


No I didn't. I never said anything about making the FAL or the RPK. If someone has been following my thread, they would know Honest, really.

Please don't make assumptions based off of recent edits, I merely corrected some typos and added some more details.

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I have a solution!! ok PWP if you have a screen recording program then when you make your next gun just record you making them and upload to youtube for everyone to see. then how can you lie..
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