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3 Dimensional Chat / Blackhawk Helicopter W.I.P.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 18th Apr 2010 07:00 Edited at: 18th Apr 2010 07:04
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Here is a model I am making, I would appreciate feedback




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mike5424
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Posted: 18th Apr 2010 09:59
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It looks to high poly for what it is. But the mesh is nice! I like how you've got an interior aswell

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CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 18th Apr 2010 23:32
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Some missile racks on the side would look sweet and help break up the flatness of it...

Possibly a turret underneath the nose as well?

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heltor
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Posted: 18th Apr 2010 23:49
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very nice, I would agree with coffe grunt though. e-mail me Genral J I got some stuff I'd like your help on.

If your not on the edge your taking up to much room!!!!!!!
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Quik
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Posted: 18th Apr 2010 23:56
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it lookds like u subdivided it? dont. as u can see, u have 16+ unnecessary seams from it


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General Jackson
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 01:46
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Thanks people.
I deleted the whole cockpit area including the nose because i realized a major mistake.
Do-overs

Anyways Heltor I am gonna watch a movie then will be on YM. Talk to me on there .


Also Quik there are no seams that i am aware of.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 05:53
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So tell me what you think so far...



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KeithC
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 06:07
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Where are you getting your reference from? It looks nothing like a Blackhawk, IMO.

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Jingle Fett
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You're at a good start, but it's far from complete; I would have worked on it more before showing it. The front is awfully high poly for what's actually there, you can easily knock it down a bunch. Also, the shape of the front doesn't look like that of a blackhawk helicopter; it looked much better in the first 2 pictures.

I'd suggest using actual reference pictures and then compare your model to the image. Look at the differences and all the little details and then see how you can add them to your model.

Here's a picture at a similar angle to the last shot. The Google will of course provide you with many more
http://plaidlemur.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/blackhawk.jpg

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General Jackson
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 07:09 Edited at: 19th Apr 2010 07:11
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Quote: "Where are you getting your reference from? It looks nothing like a Blackhawk, IMO."

Google. and this ismy first chopper, so go easy on me there Its hard to get the right shape.
I might start over.

Quote: "You're at a good start, but it's far from complete; I would have worked on it more before showing it. The front is awfully high poly for what's actually there, you can easily knock it down a bunch. Also, the shape of the front doesn't look like that of a blackhawk helicopter; it looked much better in the first 2 pictures.

I'd suggest using actual reference pictures and then compare your model to the image. Look at the differences and all the little details and then see how you can add them to your model.

Here's a picture at a similar angle to the last shot. The Google will of course provide you with many more
http://plaidlemur.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/blackhawk.jpg

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Thankyou Jingle Fett

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Jingle Fett
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 11:41 Edited at: 19th Apr 2010 11:42
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Any time, I don't mind helping people out

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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 15:08
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There is a buketload of un-needed polygons on there, also like quick said, dont use a smooth modifier on the model, you are still just drafting out the shape. I would grab a side-view shot of the black hawk and compare your models silhouette to that of the images and make ameds based on that.

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KeithC
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 15:25
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Quote: "and this ismy first chopper, so go easy on me there"

LOL; didn't mean to come of harsh. I've ridden in Blackhawks before; my Aviation Unit had Blackhawks and Kiawa Warriors.

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haliop
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 20:45
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hi man , i have something you might like
actually , i think everyone in this forum will like it .
i'll post it here , and i'll post it on the main page.

i dont want to sound like an ass , but i think you should watch some blackhawk videos , some images , you see a BlackHawk is more rounded , it gives you the feeling , oh hi theres a chuby bird in the sky..
cause its kind of fat.. with that said , it does give you a vibe of a buetiful black lady cause its just a perfect helicopter...

after checking my self.. ok
there are several kind of blackhawks..
i know the infantry transporter, but it seams that the actuall name is not blackhawk.. blackhawk is just the family name from its designers..
so there are several kinds of blackhawks..
but i guess you tried to make the transporter.. if not , my bad.

well enough with the emotions.. damn im sitting on blender too much :*(

ok , here is what i wanted to post, check out this site it helped me alot when i first started modeling, you must check it, its just an awesome website (and its free )

http://www.the-blueprints.com/

this is what ive talked about:
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 20:47
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very very old webbsite tbh lol^^ but thx for sharing anyhow =P


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haliop
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Posted: 19th Apr 2010 20:50
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ohh lol ...
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General Jackson
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Posted: 20th Apr 2010 00:20 Edited at: 20th Apr 2010 00:21
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Quote: "cause its kind of fat.. with that said , it does give you a vibe of a buetiful black lady cause its just a perfect helicopter...
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I LOL'ed hard

AND THANKS SOOO MUCH FOR THAT REFERENCE!!!

I wanted one like that! I couldnt find one though.

Now I can make it much better!

Quote: " I've ridden in Blackhawks before"


Cool, but I've flown them....

....but only in Delta Force

Nahh im green with envy.

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haliop
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Posted: 20th Apr 2010 10:56
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hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
only in delta force
hehehehehehehehhehe

nice!
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Posted: 20th Apr 2010 14:11
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Helicopters are damn tricky to make, mostly due to the concept drawings that are left to work by.

I would go and buy an airfix model, just a little thing for a few bucks, then you get some amazing concept references in the model plans, plus a model of the copter itself.

A pro making a model of a helicopter will not go on plan drawings alone, because there is not enough shown, even though the plan drawings posted there are pretty good - its nothing compared to having a model in front of you. For instance, if I was making a gun model, I'd go and get a model of the gun first - a cheap BB gun version for instance is ideal, esp if it's full size. The last gun model I made I used a full size BB version and a pair of digital calipers (micrometer), these are usually about £12 for a metal set - but it allows for unthinkable accuracy and detail. This also allows you to get a feel for the item, how it flies, how it shoots, how it moves.

No model is free, and every model is worth something, depending on how good it is. Even if it's for practice, practice the right techniques - if you don't want to buy a model of what you want to make, and don't have an effective way of measuring it - then go and find something that you can measure and model with no burdons. Drawings and photographs are handy, but they can seldom be your only source of info. BB guns are cheap, little airfix models are cheap, and they are about 50 times more accurate and useful than concept art. If you consider how long you spend trying to work things out, spending a couple of bucks makes a lot of sense.


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Posted: 20th Apr 2010 15:01
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Id agree with Van on this one. Of the few times Ive modeled something with the aid of a physical model in my hands to look at, its always come out extremely accurate in proportion.
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General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Apr 2010 01:23 Edited at: 21st Apr 2010 01:24
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Quote: "Helicopters are tricky to make, mostly due to the concept drawings that are left to work by."

No kidding

Quote: "I would go and buy an airfix model, just a little thing for a few bucks, then you get some amazing concept references in the model plans, plus a model of the copter itself.
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I'd love to, but I'm practically broke. I did do that though awhile back when I was more of an amateur, with some ww2 airplanes.
Even though I was an amateur they turned out pretty darn nice


{edit} Expect updates soon, I'm working on it right now.

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