Quote: "mgarand
About the atomic bomb, you say its cowardliness to kill inncoent people, do you realise how many innocent people died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I understand the japanese troops killed innocent people too, but using nuclear weapons is something terrible, and if they want to bomb iraq or something with it, you wont stop terrorism...
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Also my condolences!"
I understand innocent people were killed in Japan by both atomic bombs, I don't deny that. But the
Act of Cowardliness I am referring to is not to the use of weapons of mass destruction in a war, that is not an act of cowardliness. Also the Japanese Ambassador to the U.S. was in Washington D.C. at the time of the attack on Perl Harbor, it is a well known fact (admitted to several times by the Japanese government) that their Ambassador had full knowledge of the EXACT time and date of the attack on Perl Harbor, and actually walked out of the White House and a meeting with the U.S. President just hours before the attack began. But anyways, were still aware of a possible attack, we just did not take it seriously. Our use of conventional warfare during WWII against Japan was failing, we used atomic weapons as a LAST RESORT thus shortening and all but ending the war for Japan. Yes lots of lives were lost because of the atomic weapons, but even MORE WOULD HAVE BEEN lost if we did not use them and just invaded Japan. It was not an act of cowardliness on the U.S.'s part to use atomic weapons, it was a smart, calculated assurance of shortening the warning and avoiding EVEN MORE loss of life then what actually had occurred.
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Quote: "Deltayo
You may want to brush up on your history there. Pearl Harbor was attacked on December 7th 1941; a date which will live in infamy. "
No need to, Japan did indeed attack Perl Harbor on December 7, 1941. But, the year of 1945 that I refer to is the year the U.S. ACTUALLY dropped both atomic bombs on Japan, so I am correct in what I was trying to say, I just wasn't very clear in how I presented it.
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To everyone who thinks that war does not work, it does. It is not pretty, it is not fun, there are lots of sacrifices, it takes time, and it changes people forever. But IT DOES WORK!!!
My perspective is probably not new on war, but since WWII my family has lost very near and dear close family members from WWII all the way up to Afghanistan and the Iraq wars, and in every war and/or conflict the U.S. has fought in this time period (our family members are getting pretty thin). Now while we do not like the loss of lives or the pain and suffering it has been bringing, we do FULLY support OUR governments decisions to have our troops fight (even though it may mean loosing our own lives, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, etc..etc..lives), as we have seen lasting changes (all though they be very slow in coming) taking place for the betterment of the U.S. and the rest of the world as well.
We have have tried diplomacy (on our behalf and the behalf of other Countries as well), but it has failed miserably for years now. We have been talking with other Countries and Terrorist groups for years now, trying to work out a peaceful solution, but it has failed, we have given support, the warnings, the ultimatums, but it has all failed.
My personal beliefs on terrorism is this, it is NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL. Countries that harbor terrorist should be warned to seek them out and punish them, if their governments will not oblige, then we should educate there people to put pressure on their governments to do so. If that fails, we warn there people of military strikes, and if conventional warfare does not work, we then issue warning of us using Weapons of Mass Destruction on them, if they act like they are willing or only do the very minimum to seek out the terrorist in their country and punish them or if they then do not oblige at all, we use as a LAST RESORT Weapons of Mass destruction UNTIL IT DOES WORK!!
The actions of 9/11 would be much harder (not impossible) for any terrorist to carry out to that magnitude again in the U.S. as a result of the U.S.'s actions (and the rest of the World that participated and still participates in). It would be harder today then it was then. Just as then it was a little harder then 10 or 11 years before that on a greater scale, and so on.
I personally sympathize with everyone and anyone who lost someone or had their family destroyed on 9/11, and anyone lost someone or had their family destroyed as a result from the AFTERMATH and CONSEQUENCES of 9/11, I personally lost someone. But their comes a time when talking must stop, and a definitive action must take place for the act of cowardliness perpetrated on that date, and I do not believe that definitive action has occurred yet, but it will!
I salute all our Soldier's who fight for our freedoms and safeties, and I support our government in our fight against these cowards against us and other Countries as well
