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I can't speak for others, but I don't hate anyone. I may disagree with others and their beliefs, that that should not be called hate.

As for idiots who want to burn books and flags, you'll have to realize that they are in most cases not educated, misinformed, or not right in the head. Either way, they don't represent a country or the views of the majority. They just get the most attention.

Right, and by my count 15 were fanatics.


No, actually I mispoke; I meant to say 20 fanatics.

The 15 came into mind because that is how many of them that were from Saudi Arabia. (That was the majority of the 20 who took the planes.)
Makes you wonder why Iraq got the blame, right?
Baby Bush just wanted to finish his Daddy's war, since the enemy got away and daddy Bush had lost face.

The point was, sane, rational, and civilized people don't go blaming a nation or a religion for the acts of 20 men. (or 500)
I don't know where you get the 100 to 500 involved, because I guess I was out of the loop on that evidence when it was presented.


Blame yourself then too for your indirect involvement, for your oil consumption because that is why all of that happened; over oil.
So, "get" real.

If our military wasn't invading the holy lands for decades "protecting our oil interests", then those religious fanatics wouldn't have hated us to start with.

9/11 was wrong and terrible, but so was the invasion of Iraq!

So my condolences to them as well.

For someone who knocks other people for not being educated on a topic before making a response you sure enjoy spouting your hypotheses as facts. This is the second time you've "mistaken" my innocent question for some form of sarcasm.

I burn oil? I live away from the city. I don't drive there every day like many people do. Heck, I rarely drive at all since I work from home. When I do drive, guess what? I have an electric car. It's not easy to drive these things where I live since there are very few options to recharge the battery.


Now what about you? Do you ride a bike everywhere or something? Or are you going to blame yourself for this whole "oil" thing?

Look if you want to try getting up in my face about whatever your problem is with me, feel free to email me, because I'm sick of your "mistakes" about me.


The one and only,

I think this can be summed up with "two wrongs didn't make a right" here...

Fair enough. A war started, but it's drawing to a close in a few years, or at least for my country it is. Iraq is more-or-less over, and Afghanistan is in a stalemate but we're gunna leave the ANA to it in 2015...

Like Keith said, this should be for condolences now. But since it's so far after 11/9, (15th right now here), best to probably lock it to stop the temptation, I know how it feels when you want to tell someone they're wrong when their logic issues are screaming at you in the face...

As far as me supporting the wars, etc, I dunno. Britain might seem identical to America, but there's a lot of ideological difference that I don't understand in your country. I dunno what it is, I just don't get the national thought process for some things...

That's my fill, I'll get off this thread now. If you really want to follow up on what I've said, EMail me rather than trying to coax me back into this argument...

Why is this in FPSC CHAT???
This need to be in Geek Culture...i think...

Also lets not forget the loss of lives of the innocent people of iraq and afghanistan which can only be described as a 10yr bombing campaign,i have seen it with my own eye's.

It was made for condolences but some posts makes you can't shut up posting actully .
Anyway CG said it as best as it can be :
Two wrongs didn't make a right ....

My condolences and I guess this should be locked by now as it did what it shouldn't do which is speaking about war , Anyway I was happy about that argument as no one stultified the other's opinions and thoughts .

Cheers .

It really shows visitors and members alike; that even a simple thread about remembering those lost on a horrific attack, can't proceed without a minority here derailing the topic (as usual). Pretty sad, in my opinion.

As usual; you have numerous people (many who are under the age of 18, and therefore have no experience in the War(s) they attempt to "decipher") who like to throw out assumptions as fact. Most of you have NO idea what it's like to be on the ground, making the tough decisions that need to be made in a conflict of this type; decisions that sometimes have to be made in milliseconds. You can have opinions all you want; just remember who made it possible for you to live in a country that allows it (not just referring to the U.S. either), before you spit upon and judge them.

On the one hand; I hear that we shouldn't condemn an entire nations (or nations), because of the acts of a few individuals who were 1 can short of a six-pack. Then I hear comments coming from groups calling for "death to America", because of the acts of a few individuals who are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. You can't have it both ways people.

We can all have our beliefs and traditions, and practice them; without degenerating to such a level that all others practitioners are the "enemy". Some people in this world find that hard to do without violence; they are found in ALL religious organizations. They are called "fundamentalists".

Throwing out statements not based in fact; such as "....War on Islam", or "...Invaded because of the Oil", are not helpful at all. They are personal assumptions.

Also; labeling one country (ie., the USA) as the root of all the World's problems, is disingenuous at best. Remember the term "The Sun never sets on the British Empire"? The history of Britain (as it is with most countries) is not squeaky clean. Take a look back at how your country (and Society) really came about; and have a gander at how you got to where you are today, before blaming another country for all the woes of the World. I also seem to remember a little movement called the Ottoman Empire; which brings to mind the term "Carrot or the Sword". It's all History people....read up on it.

This is exactly why we can't civil discourse here, or even try to remember a few thousand people who were lost in a senseless act. I feel pretty disgusted right now...

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