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KeithC
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Quote: "Am I the only one not really excited about this pack?"

Yes.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2011 17:20
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Damn,now wheres that cry corner?


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Posted: 25th Jan 2011 22:14 Edited at: 25th Jan 2011 22:55
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ErrantAI first unveiled these characters in June 2009. They are set to be released in Feb 2011. They've been in development for the better part of 2 years! This is someone who cares about his craft.

Here's hoping you get the sales you deserve, lord knows that's a freaking long time to work on a model pack. I can't wait to see how these are used with DarkAI!

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These look truly amazing. I'm extremly impressed.

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Posted: 27th Jan 2011 00:24 Edited at: 27th Jan 2011 00:28
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Look much like these

http://www.3drt.com/3dm/characters/us-army-marines/us-army-marines-shots.htm

Hopefully not the same hefty pricetag, however?

Now, I need to find some russians or eastern people to fight them...
Wink wink, nudge nudge.

Lol, in all seriousness, though, I can not wait.

What are the buildings behind them in the screenie?


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Posted: 27th Jan 2011 18:29
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Quote: "Hopefully not the same hefty pricetag"


Hopefully not.

EAI's even look better than tose imo

Srry about my english im from sweeden
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Posted: 27th Jan 2011 21:15 Edited at: 27th Jan 2011 21:46
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Honestly, I agree. Infact, if you're REALLY picky, like me, there's not even any competition... From what I have seen, there's even a woman in this pack. (Edit: Three, actually) Finally, we don't just have Aiko and Zombies.


'Scar Minipack'...



Scroll down to Errant's post. The first chick is pretty fine... For a wargame character.

Thanks to amazing new things like this popping up over FPSC over the past year or two,

CoD or L4D2 < Well designed FPSC Game


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Can someone tell me where to buy or download these structures in the background?

Still waiting for next week to come. Even the teaser screens are looking absolutely awesome!

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6069/aaw2resurgencebanner600.jpg
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The Zoq2
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Posted: 28th Jan 2011 16:08
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were did you find that screen??

Srry about my english im from sweeden
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Just follow TGC on Twitter or Facebook

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Just follow TGC on Twitter or Facebook

So nobody knows where these assets are from? Come on...

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Errant AI
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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 12:18 Edited at: 29th Jan 2011 12:31
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Quote: "Hopefully not the same hefty pricetag, however?"

And that's just one model
That's the sort of prices people should expect to pay for a decent stock model with LOD and Max, etc formats. The listed price is pretty average. And no... TF-341 won't cost anywhere near that and there's a load of stuff included. I think the installer is like a 440MB download.


@Unreal1ty- the structure in the background is a combination of three things...

1. segment from TGC account on GCS in their industrial section and called "Corrugated Room". I think it's also in modelpack 3.

2. some I-beams from the stock WW2 entity furnitureb category called "structurala"

3. a bunch of sheet metal entities from stock SciFi furniturea category named "sheeta" cobbled onto...

4. a custom house frame segment I built. It's not available but I'm pretty sure I've seen similar segments around the forums.


Quote: "ErrantAI first unveiled these characters in June 2009. They are set to be released in Feb 2011. They've been in development for the better part of 2 years! This is someone who cares about his craft.

Here's hoping you get the sales you deserve, lord knows that's a freaking long time to work on a model pack. I can't wait to see how these are used with DarkAI!"



Yeah... about 2 years. Pretty sad, eh? After all the effort, I was sort of gutted when TGC put a pretty unflattering pic up on FB recently but it's all good because i noticed a couple bugs I'd missed. I've definitely learned a lot in the process and I think it's turned out well for a first legit stab at character modeling and animation. They've been through so many re-dos it's not even funny. Plus there were a lot of things that have been changing in FPSC and it's been really challenging to keep abreast of. As it is, these are up to date to a point where it'll be required to have a minimum of 1.18 beta 7 just to use things properly... they don't work at all (with the default scripts) in 1.17. Thanks for the well wishes and thanks for contributing skinning_norm_spec.fx to the stock library. It's a great shader
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@ Errant AI
So this pack is going to have lots of characters in one? Will all of them be in one pack? If not how many characters are in each pack and how many separate packs are there?
Everybody is very excited for these and your SCAR, you do amazing work for us here.

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It's one big monster pack.

The attachment should answer some questions as to what is included in the pack...
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WOW!!!

So over 100 characters that would have a fair price of $4-10 each, so your looking at... I'm not going to bother with the math

Looks exellent



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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 14:56 Edited at: 29th Jan 2011 14:59
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FINALLY we get some decent looking FEMALE characters!

And that TRV seems to be a highly advanced relative of the yellow one you gave away for free a century(feels like) ago

@ErrantAI, the waiting was surely worth it.

PS: I had rather expected 3 different packs (Fiendly, Ally, Enemy)than this meagapack.

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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I thought it wasnt possible, but now I'm more excited for this pack.
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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 15:06
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Quote: "And that TRV seems to be a highly advanced relative of the yellow one you gave away for free a century(feels like) ago "


It indeed is

Only this time around the tracks, wheels and camera are animated and you can swing the turret around using rotatehead calls which looks pretty neat when it's roving around.

Putting together the first of a few videos right now. The first one will show all the character anims using a script I'm including which uses fpgcrawtext to print the name and anim numbers that one would use if callng in a script. Should be very handy for those who want to take advantage of all the new anims.
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Holy FLYING PIG that was beyond awesome!
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How much will these cost??

And will the weapons be included??

Srry about my english im from sweeden
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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 16:43 Edited at: 29th Jan 2011 16:46
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EDIT: Didn't see there was a second page!

20th Anniversary
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Errant AI
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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 17:59
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Quote: "How much will these cost??"


Less than you probably think.

Quote: "And will the weapons be included??"


Yup. And they're state of the art as far as FPSC goes... Aiming, melee, alt-mode, shaders, empty animations, tactical and full reloads, bla, bla, bla...

Anyhow...

Grab a snack and put on some music because this video is overlong and tedious to watch but it shows the core character animations for TF341. There are additional animation sets not shown for pistol, heavy-gun/chainsaw and rpg which are not shown in this video. While most all of the stock anims have been modified, the anims with names in all-caps are totally new. The anim number displayed at the top is the animate=x value to be used in scipt to play the desired animation.



The next vid will show some proper action but I need a nap first.

The anim list is attached to this post...
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Posted: 29th Jan 2011 18:09 Edited at: 29th Jan 2011 18:18
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Quote: "Grab a snack and put on some music "


I heartily recommend MC Hammer's "Can't touch this"

EDIT: Only at the very end I realized you actually included dancing....

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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Oh Jake, only you would include a dancing animation. Tut tut.

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there will be amale walk or a male idle?

if not, Great, i would love to put the general of a team dancing and walking like that when he kills an enemy!



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Quote: "there will be amale walk or a male idle?"


Anims 48 and 49 are the equivalent to that though if you wanted him to let the gun hang down instead of holding it, you could open the .fpe and add two more anim definitions in any empty slots between 100 and 149 and plug in the frameranges for 48 and 49. That would allow you to override the weapontype system. All the anims are essentially male by default. The female anims are there mostly for the female characters who don't have body armor. The last two anims I have no sane explanation for...
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I'm so excited that I can't say anything negative about it... ever...(not that I would towards anything). I will most definitely buy this, maybe not on the first, and I can't wait to actually use them. On top of that, when your SCAR comes out
Quote: "expect the SCAR mini-pack (12 versions) to appear on GCS sometime mid-Feb."
(I'm assuming that's accurate), I will probably die and come back. Twice.

Fenomenal work Errant!

Dying of excitement,
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Whoa! errant I saw a guns section in that model pack screen shot! are those a separate model pack or a upgrade to model pack 9 and 10? that looks amazing. The video is fantastic. I can't wait!

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Dancing! lol!

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You're a god, you soldiers knows the Caramelldansen !


February 1st right ?
The waiting is sooo long !

Please apologize my bad english, I'm French.

ELDORA Rocks !
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I want to watch the video, but my internet is capped
Thank god it wont be in 2 days time
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Tomorrow is going to be amazing!!!! Black Ops map pack, and these amazing jaw dropping phenomenons! I'm definitely going to buy these, and probably on the first day. So for my understanding were getting close to 100 amazing characters, which I truly mean amazing, about 7 guns that I needed, and a TRV?! For what price? $50? Or as Errant implied, that we'll be surprised at the low price, but Errant I am sorry to inform you.....

I refuse to buy these...

If they cost less than $30. It would feel like I'm smack a child and stealing his stuff, its too good of an offer. And by saying its too good of an offer, I mean it would be if it costs anything under $100 for the pack. You did amazing on these and, well I'm at a loss for words...

And I usually have allot of those.

Now enough of me ranting about these crazy good models and deal. How hard will it be to incorporate sort of a reacting scene? Like a loop for a character until A) They get under attack by anything B) They die C) They spot an enemy or D) The next part of the storyline happens? By loop I mean the character will walk a small path, contact someone on a radio, sit down for a bit, then do it all over.

How difficult would that be? And what are the different Dark AI scripts for these? Like is there one where two enemies will start fist fighting, or they concentrate on siting down and radioing people till you recruit them as a teammate.

Thanks for reading my long post, and thanks for answering any of the questions I just asked.


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January goes to the 31st

Anyway... I need to buy this pack, maybe not even to use it, just to have it

There's going to be a huge jump in modern combat games in February.

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Posted: 30th Jan 2011 05:34 Edited at: 30th Jan 2011 05:42
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New video up!

Video shows some of the TF341 hud/player weapons featuring proper shaders, aiming, alt modes, melee, tac and full reloads, etc. All the weapons except the M203s can be dual-wielded in Project Blue Mod. Illumination maps are also included to make the optic rets glow if used with a compatible shader/mod



@Cross Hair Games thanks for the kind post. If it was under $30 it wouldn't matter because bond1 would track me down and murder me before I could collect any royalties ..all I can say is that it will be the least-cheap pack to date but still priced with the FPSC community in mind.

If anyone think it's too cheap, well, I won't stop them from buying it twice

As for your questions it really just comes down to your FPI skills. The AI scripts are split into main and shoot scripts so you can combo things up a bit pretty easily. When I get the official thread going I will help people learn how to set up those kind of circumstances. I'll explain a bit more about how the default behaviors work later on.


@Everyone. Not that I'm one to discourage opening day sales but just keep in mind that this pack requires v1.18 which is still in beta. The default scripts do not work in v1.17 so if you just want to drag n' drop you'll need v1.18 beta7 or later.

...AND to just clear things up; YES these weapons are in the pack plus a few more not in the vid. What you saw in the editor capture is what you will get. These are rehashes of some older weapons BUT they have been rebuilt from the ground up. For those who paid for the M249A on GCS, I do not want you to feel jipped so I will be adding a special treat in the GCS upload to compensate.
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Quote: "all I can say is that it will be the least-cheap pack to date but still priced with the FPSC community in mind. "


Haha, tip-toeing around with wordplay. I will personally deliver a nut-punch to the first person who complains about the price. Because I'm sure the price for these will be unreal.

I finish up my work week on Tuesday morning, so I'm hoping I get a fast order-approval so I can spend the afternoon with these.

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LOL bond1. Wow Errant these are just amazing. Truly. Can't wait! those gun additions are amazing.

I personally also can't wait to see the further additions you plan to make of these characters. Like Soviet Spetsnaz FTW! I can't choose yet what pack I want to get. Most likely all but will have to wait till I am paid next.

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Thanks for the reply and answering my questions!

But, whoa whoa slow down! Did I see you go prone at 3:41?? Also those new gun animations are AWESOME! What buttons would one press to say, put the silencer on, or switch to the M203? Also I know selected fire is possible (I think, either it is or I'm just dreaming it) Is it with these guns?

Haha, ya if it's under $30 I will probably buy it twice, just because as i stated, they deserve a $100 dollar price tag. And I'm with Bond on that one. And I stand very firm on this. So if anyone even thinks about complaining, please read this:

Complaining Punishment

I Cross Hair Games, solemnly swear, by the truth and only the truth. That if any shall complain about the pricing on Model Pack 53 of The Game Creators product, First Person Shooter Creator, I will personally take it into action to email them and explain to them why it is this way. And if any shall complain without me taking action, I would prefer people of the Community email me with a link to where they complain.

Thank you, have a nice day


There it is written.. or Typed.
And sorry for my brain cramp thinking tomorrow was the 1st. For some reason I thought it was currently February, and that the pack and the Black Ops pack were released on March 1st. Silly me.

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I really can't wait to see the advanced AI on offer here.

Sure the models are AAA quality but you can't put a price on good gameplay.

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Quote: "But, whoa whoa slow down! Did I see you go prone at 3:41?? "


No. I accidentally hit the crouch key which puts the camera (stupidly, IMO) at prone height... It's always been like that.

Quote: "What buttons would one press to say, put the silencer on, or switch to the M203? Also I know selected fire is possible (I think, either it is or I'm just dreaming it) Is it with these guns?"


In gunspec I've set the F key to be firemode change for combo weapons and L-Alt for gun melee. With the knife, L-Alt does the more powerful stabbing attack. There are tips on the pickup messages that tell the keys used for special stuff. The picking up itself is script bound to "action" key which defaults to enter but I'm pretty sure you can change default in setup.ini. The mode keys however have to be changed individually.

Yes, that is alt-mode behavior you're seeing. Note that the weapon doesn't go off screen to change between launcher/rifle modes... the player character just flips up the leaf sight and repositions a bit. Also, when the gun comes across the body in running anims it's because the gun can't be fired either because it's out of ammo or in the case of the SAW, I've used a setting to disable shooting while running.


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Quote: "Haha, tip-toeing around with wordplay."
Maybe but all the packs are super cheap. And I want to see some nut punching
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This is going to be the least not-awesome pack EVER!

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Quote: "And I want to see some nut punching "

Are you implying that this is going to be $39 or under?!
Quote: "No. I accidentally hit the crouch key which puts the camera (stupidly, IMO) at prone height... It's always been like that."

Ohk, is it possible to make a prone key?
And thanks for answering my questions yet again!
So do the gunspecs your using in the video come default with te pack? And how would I make it so all guns are disabled while running?

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Very sorry for double post but this is a circumstance where I need to! I very very misworded something in an above Post that could be taken very wrong! So I just need to clear it up!
Quote: "It would feel like I'm smack a child and stealing his stuff, its too good of an offer"

What I said here unfortunately makes it sound like I think smacking children is good. I mixed up my words and I'm very sorry. I ment to intend that it'd feel like stealing as the work is too good for a low price.
I hope that clears things up.

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The weapons look awesome, I love the shader effects


BUt teh pak shud cost liek only $10.00, wae 2 expensiv and iz a ripofff!!!1!!1

now to go by a bodyguard


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Quote: "now to go by a bodyguard"


Too late! Hyuken!!!



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edit missed a couple new posts: haha! nice one

Quote: "This is going to be the least not-awesome pack EVER!"


That's quite a rush coming from Mr. Least Not-Awesome, himself!


Quote: "Ohk, is it possible to make a prone key?"


There already is... it's the crouch key... unfortunately. The player camera skips crouch height and goes to prone height as-is. If you stand nekt to a crouching character and press C your eye-level is knee/crotch height. It would probably require source editing for what you want or else a mod that lets you set camera height.

Quote: "So do the gunspecs your using in the video come default with te pack? And how would I make it so all guns are disabled while running?"


Yes. This is shown as default. Any weapon can be disabled for run shooting with two easy changes in its gunspec.

Anyhow- back to vid making. next up is to start showing some AI.
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wow this pack look über duper suberb awesome
im defenetly going to buy this
but i have a question to the weapons do you update the modelpacks with the weapons ? or are they only avalible in this pack ? an do you update more weapons in the modelpacks 10 and 9

its not a bug its a feature
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EAI, your pack looks really cool, and i'll be getting it for sure. I had some questions though...
I noticed in some of your previous screens, i think it was in another thread, but i noticed that some of your characters had snow camo on. Are you planning on releasing those guys eventually too? Or perhaps your planning on making a #2 pack that has reskins??
Just curious because those guys looked really cool, and i want them too. :-P
I was also wondering if your characters can move their mouth and actually talk like the Dark Voices and those standard characters.

Can't wait for Feb 1st!
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Posted: 30th Jan 2011 10:51
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Awesome, awesome, awesome....

I expect the pack to be priced at nothing less than 59.90

Since the one thing that really takes my fancy, is one of the black uniformed females (I'm not into contemporary warfare at all) I hope somehow the models also find their way into the store.

In case you find my grammar and spelling weird ---> native German speaker ^^
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Posted: 30th Jan 2011 13:38 Edited at: 30th Jan 2011 13:43
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Couple of things I'd like to know...

First, could we use the models to do PB Legs+Body?

Secondly, will they be possible with the PB Dark AI allies?
Cosmic's ones didn't work at all with them... They just span in the air and glitched up completely.

But yeah, now I know the animate numbers, time to code up a massive fight between a friend and a foe - just like the end of MW2

THREE DAYS INCLUDING TODAY AND THE RELEASE DAY. I can't wait... D:
Oh, crap. I have no spare money... Gonna have to wait till the fifth - my BDay...

PS. In the second vid, what did you do to get the pistol to meele? Or was it not actually meele...?


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