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Neuro Fuzzy
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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 04:34 Edited at: 19th Nov 2011 04:41
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristin-wartman/pizza-is-a-vegetable_b_1101433.html



I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

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and yes, tomatoes are fruits...

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 04:39 Edited at: 19th Nov 2011 04:42
That's weird, I've never heard of corporations swaying the actions of the government.

Pretty weird though. Does this mean other compound foods such as salads are considered vegetables too?



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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 05:11
C'mon this is good news! This means I can eat pizza now and feel like I am making a difference for my health. xD

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 10:00
No. Just no.

Pizza as a veg?

I mean seriously, what the hell people?

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 10:21 Edited at: 19th Nov 2011 10:21
I can't wait until they declare meat a vegetable, then I can be a vegetarian.


But seriously, that's a little bizarre, I'm sure great kids will love having pizza at school, I wouldn't deny them that - make it a treat, but it hardly encourages any kind of healthy eating, which is what fruit and veg is for. Let them have pizza, don't declare it a vegetable.

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Yup... I think it is time to say my mom and dad good bye and jump of a building

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 12:03
It's great that they declared pizza a vegetable... now they just have to prove that the "pizza" they have at lunch is really pizza.



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Grog, what on earth is that? Are you in prison? Is that what they feed the isolated inmates through a narrow slot in the bars?

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 13:07
I can imagine, in ten years my daughter comes home:
me: "what did you have for lunch at school?"
daughter: "well, vegetables."
me: "only vegetables? no real food?"
daughter: "well, it was pizza! In other words we ate vegetables.."
me: "........"


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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 13:09
Quote: "Grog, what on earth is that? Are you in prison? Is that what they feed the isolated inmates through a narrow slot in the bars?"


Looks like how they served food at my primary school, luckily secondary school wasn't that bad...I say that, the food probably was.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 13:37
a vegetable is an edible plant. show me a pizza tree and ill... ill... well, ill eat it and ill also wonder what the wold has come to.
I say that common sense must prevail. in this messed up world you may be able to legally define pizza as a vegetable. but this vegetable is not a healthy one. fat kids can kid themselves and say they are eating vegetables but their diabetes and heart conditions will not listen to their legal reasoning.

stupid people they are... vegetables... really.

fat kid: "I only eat 3 serves of vegetables a day! honestly"
doctor: "you have diabetes and high blood pressure, your fitness is appauling and you are going to die from a heart attack within a year even with the best medical attention."
fat kid: "but I only eat vegetables!"

delusional is the only word for it.

facts like these make me detach myself further from the genral human race.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 14:13
As kezzla said common sense must prevail. So if I have a pizza with meat, then it's still a vegetable, right?



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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 18:28
Obviously the real vegetable is the person who came up with the idea that pizza is a vegetable!!

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veg-ception?

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 21:53
Pizza is a vegetable... Did I read that correctly?

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Us smart people will always know pizza is just pizza,nothing more.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 22:43
One of your five a day ey?

I'll still have a spicy meat feast... (Did they say anything about kebabs being a vegetable?)

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Posted: 19th Nov 2011 23:55
when you think about it. It makes since. lol

@Grog grueslayer, enjoy your veggies.

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I think the most shocking part of this article is that our government is wasting time on things like this when there are serious matters to deal with.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2011 00:57 Edited at: 20th Nov 2011 00:59
... and this is a big issue because?

Of course pizza isn't a vegetable. Nobody actually genuinely thinks pizza is a vegetable. Just because its now got some govermental stamp on it saying vegetable doesn't mean its molecules have magically transformed into the same fleshy green material as broccoli, it's still a bloody pizza! It's not like people are going to start rushing to the supermarkets and cramming their fat, slobbering faces with piles of Goodfella's thinking that now that it's officially a vegetable it's going to make them thin! The fabric of reality isn't about to break down because one manufactured product has been mislabelled, and it's certainly not going to make child obesity levels rise - because the kids who like pizza will keep eating pizza, and the kids who watch their weight aren't going to suddenly lapse into a mindless robot state where they just gobble anything labelled 'vegetable' instead of using their own dribbling brains to think about what they shovel into their gob!

Jesus H. Christ!

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Posted: 20th Nov 2011 01:06 Edited at: 20th Nov 2011 01:11
Does a cheese pizza even have vegetables in it?

crust:
--flour (grain)
--salt
--yeast
--water

sauce:
--tomato paste (fruit)

topping:
--cheese (dairy)

...so we have grain, fruit and dairy...how is this a vegetable!!?? *brain explodes*

Grog:
That was our Friday lunch in grade school. On rare occasions it would be an octagonal mexican pizza.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2011 02:14
Quote: "Nobody actually genuinely thinks pizza is a vegetable."


After watching Jamie Oliver's American Road Trip and seeing that American kids didn't even know what an apple looked like, I tend to disagree with you. It may very well be that pizzas are now taught to be a vegetable at school.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2011 02:48 Edited at: 20th Nov 2011 02:48


Have one with every meal.



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Posted: 20th Nov 2011 03:06
Err... Why is the tomato under "vegetables"? I mean, the pizza is understandable now, but the tomato?!

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Don't know, ask the Americans, crazy people, with their.. "colors" and "humor"



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maybe because there is a huge bebate wether tomato is fruit or vegetables..

Quote: "The confusion about 'fruit' and 'vegetable' arises because of the differences in usage between scientists and cooks. Scientifically speaking, a tomato is definitely a fruit. True fruits are developed from the ovary in the base of the flower, and contain the seeds of the plant (though cultivated forms may be seedless). Blueberries, raspberries, and oranges are true fruits, and so are many kinds of nut. Some plants have a soft part which supports the seeds and is also called a 'fruit', though it is not developed from the ovary: the strawberry is an example.

As far as cooking is concerned, some things which are strictly fruits, such as tomatoes or bean pods, may be called 'vegetables' because they are used in savoury rather than sweet cooking. The term 'vegetable' is more generally used of other edible parts of plants, such as cabbage leaves, celery stalks, and potato tubers, which are not strictly the fruit of the plant from which they come. Occasionally the term 'fruit' may be used to refer to a part of a plant which is not a fruit, but which is used in sweet cooking: rhubarb, for example."



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It's even been proven you don't need 6 glasses of water a day. Another 'fact' brought to you by bottle water corps.

Drinking just as much soda will give your body enough water to stay hydrated. 1 1/2cups of soda = 1 cup of pure water.

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Quote: "Another 'fact' brought to you by bottle water corps."

I don't mind, I absolutely love the taste of bottled water and it cost a lot less than soda and is healthy.

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Tap water does the trick for me

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Quote: "... and this is a big issue because?"


Because the government illogically changing the labelling of something, to the detriment of the consumer, just for the benefit of businesses is wrong? Hello?



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The EU is not immune to these types of issues either so it is not just an American thing. Consider the following.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html

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Alright. Water doesn't prevent dehydration, pizzas are vegetables, and guam might capsize.

Quote: "... and this is a big issue because?

Of course pizza isn't a vegetable. Nobody actually genuinely thinks pizza is a vegetable. Just because its now got some govermental stamp on it saying vegetable doesn't mean its molecules have magically transformed into the same fleshy green material as broccoli, it's still a bloody pizza! It's not like people are going to start rushing to the supermarkets and cramming their fat, slobbering faces with piles of Goodfella's thinking that now that it's officially a vegetable it's going to make them thin! The fabric of reality isn't about to break down because one manufactured product has been mislabelled, and it's certainly not going to make child obesity levels rise - because the kids who like pizza will keep eating pizza, and the kids who watch their weight aren't going to suddenly lapse into a mindless robot state where they just gobble anything labelled 'vegetable' instead of using their own dribbling brains to think about what they shovel into their gob!

Jesus H. Christ!
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...it's like you took what seemed (to me) like a straightforward thread ridiculing government, skewed point, exaggerated it, and THEN argued against it. Almost every statement of that paragraph was a tautology, arranged so that it almost appears like a valid argument. >.>

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Quote: "...it's like you took what seemed (to me) like a straightforward thread ridiculing government, skewed point, exaggerated it, and THEN argued against it. Almost every statement of that paragraph was a tautology, arranged so that it almost appears like a valid argument. >.>"


That's my job But in all seriousness, that's how I felt about the original article. So Pizza's now a vegetable because it has a label...? Of course it's not, let's get some perspective here.

What I'm saying here is that the original article is greatly exaggerating the problem - if you actually read what I wrote, you'll notice I'm saying these things won't happen. Mountains out of mole hills.

And...I only wanted to make a quick joke (well, long joke)

Quote: "Because the government illogically changing the labelling of something, to the detriment of the consumer, just for the benefit of businesses is wrong? Hello?"

Except, as I already said, a) I don't understand how this is to the detriment of the consumer when all it takes is some thought, and also I don't see how it's a big issue. It's not. It's a silly issue.

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Of course water prevents dehydration. I had sickness bug Thursday/Friday, which had me very dehydrated, half of that time I was drinking a lot of water, which got my hydration up quite a bit, but I did later switch to Lucozade Sport and I picked up quite quickly after that too.

So maybe, it's the electrolytes. So really we should replace all of our water supplies with electrolyte saturated sports drinks. Now lets insert several references to the film Idiocracy, I think it's beginning to feel more and more relevant to the thread.


And Insert Name Here, you give people too much credit.


Quote: "It's even been proven you don't need 6 glasses of water a day. Another 'fact' brought to you by bottle water corps.

Drinking just as much soda will give your body enough water to stay hydrated. 1 1/2cups of soda = 1 cup of pure water.
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You do need a certain amount of water per day, but it doesn't necessarily matter exactly where you get it from. Soda isn't as great as water and soda isn't exactly a healthy option, but you're not going to die from dehydration and your pee isn't going to come out orange (a sign that you're dehydrated).

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I'm all for water, just saying you don't exactly need 6 glasses a day.

I don't drink dark soda anymore, stick with the Dew. I mostly drink coffee anyway, straight black. In recent years I've replaced my blood with the stuff.

Oddly enough energy drinks have no effect on me, but because I never use sugar if I even add a little to my coffee I go flippin nuts.

So after reading a little more into this from what I gather, the whole pizza thing is so it stays on school menus. Heck, that was my favorite day for lunch at school. That and chicken nuggets.

...and honestly if they took it away and replaced it with 'real' vegetables would any kid honestly eat them? School lunch was always a treat, crappy food loaded with sodium, taste so good. When my mom packed my lunch it was always peanut butter sandwiches, fruit cup and a box drink...which always leaked and soaked the sandwich.

So as a kid this makes sense. But for adults we'll be left scratching our heads.

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WTF?!?!?!?!?!

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I find it quite ridiculous for Congress to worry about such silly matters while our nation is nearing a trillion in debt to foreign countries.

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Must be to make the idiots feel better about eating pizza.

Now tammy finish all your vegetables

Buut moooom i don't want anymore dominos meatfeast pizza...

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Posted: 20th Nov 2011 19:18
Quote: "Water doesn't prevent dehydration"


Water doesn't prevent Dehydration

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None of this is new, it's just because it's pizza that it's blatantly obvious. Anyone who has taken Omega3 tablets to make themselves smarter, bought branded headache tablets, believed a nutritionist in any way or used homeopathy (this one being the best!) has been taken in just as badly.

I could go on, but it's been very eloquently summarised in Bad Science, try reading it, it's so bad it's shocking. For example, 50,000 deaths by heart attack (or thereabouts) from one pill that they knew was bad before they produced it.

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Quote: "I could go on, but it's been very eloquently summarised in Bad Science, try reading it, it's so bad it's shocking. For example, 50,000 deaths by heart attack (or thereabouts) from one pill that they knew was bad before they produced it."


I am intrigued.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2011 20:02 Edited at: 20th Nov 2011 20:02
Quote: "Water doesn't prevent Dehydration"


The number one cause of dehydration is in fact Hercules, who successful slew the hydra and remains as a threat to all hydra who wish to take its place. And news has it, Hercules is impervious to water.

Greece is in Europe, I bet you anything this declaration that water doesn't prevent dehydration was thought up by Zeus, who in fact knows his son is not so weak that water would defeat him.


To be honest, I'm sure that's probably a more sane explanation than what might have been offered. Given I don't know the explanation, I think I am entitled to an artistic license over the facts.

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I did notice in the earlier image "alcohol in moderation". That hydrates to a certain degree.

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Quote: "The number one cause of dehydration is in fact Hercules, who successful slew the hydra and remains as a threat to all hydra who wish to take its place. And news has it, Hercules is impervious to water.

Greece is in Europe, I bet you anything this declaration that water doesn't prevent dehydration was thought up by Zeus, who in fact knows his son is not so weak that water would defeat him."


Best explanation ever!!

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Quote: "After watching Jamie Oliver's American Road Trip and seeing that American kids didn't even know what an apple looked like, I tend to disagree with you."


He must have spent a long time searching for a group of kids like that, because I live in the US and the apple is VERY common. Hell, I would have a very hard time finding someone who doesn't know what it looks like. I would have a hard time finding a town in my area without a single apple tree in it.

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It's a very clever trick of journalism that - if your sample size only consists of idiots then you're able to misrepresent the situation, if you saw the kids who knew what an apple was, it wouldn't have anywhere near as the same effect. The best bit, nobody can be accused of lying...unless of course they actually slip in a lie. If you're trying to change or influence somebody's opinion then what you show and tell them will be quite selective.

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Quote: " if your sample size only consists of idiots then you're able to misrepresent the situation, if you saw the kids who knew what an apple was, it wouldn't have anywhere near as the same effect. "


True, but seriously, there shouldn't be ANYONE at any age in a normal school who couldn't identify an apple. Almost every teaching resource I have ever used has pictures of apples by the letter Aa.

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