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xCatalyst
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 17:02 Edited at: 8th Aug 2013 17:04
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Exactly, I feel the same way. Nowadays, I just use sites like that to figure out what the stones do exactly, and then just find the cheapest sales on Amazon. There are quite a few quality sellers on there now, I've yet to be let down. And I feel you, but hey, whatever works. I'm the open-minded and idealist type of person, and you kind of need that ideology going into it for it to really benefit you.

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Seditious
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 17:05
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Quote: "Nowadays, I just use sites like that to figure out what the stones do exactly"


I have found a really good site on all the information you'll ever need to know on this subject, here.

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xCatalyst
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 17:11 Edited at: 8th Aug 2013 17:15
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Like I said,
Quote: "I'm the open-minded and idealist type of person, and you kind of need that ideology going into it for it to really benefit you."


And clearly, you are just the opposite. There's no need for that; just trying to help with some things that have helped me. If you don't like it, don't believe in it, don't whatever, etc. keep it to yourself. Otherwise you're just making yourself seem like an ass.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 17:16 Edited at: 8th Aug 2013 17:19
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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I'm just a staunch supporter or rationalism and scepticism, and an enemy of superstition. If it works for you then fine.

Although my advice is to find the source of the problem, and try to fix it rather than trying to psychologically brush it under the carpet. However, sometimes the latter is the easier way of dealing with it.

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Libervurto
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 17:19
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I find the whole thing very interesting. The way I view it is similar to how we use language; with words, we take complex ideas and embody them in a neat little package that can be transferred and help clarify our thoughts. I believe it's the same with these crystals, you are imbuing each one with a complex set of ideas which can help you focus when meditating (or whatever it is you do with them). I think you could achieve the same effect with a stick or a pebble, but maybe there's something mysterious about crystals that makes people more willing to give them characteristics.
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xCatalyst
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 17:29 Edited at: 8th Aug 2013 17:33
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I agree with you there, they've been giving characteristics to help you focus upon. The way I see it along with that though, is that it seems to be found that crystals resonate at a constant frequency. My personal belief is that moods and emotions are based off of the balance of our personal frequencies (think of us as a big magnet). Crystals to me help keep that balance inline, and thus create a stress-free and happier life. That's why I personally meditate with them.

I talked about out-of-body experiences before. How I accomplish it is actually raising my personal frequency above a certain point. Whether it's fact or just a big lucid dream is rather subjective, but I've seen and discovered some pretty wonderful things about myself and my beliefs.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 18:05
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Quote: " Sorry, I got held up, Mr Valentine was waiting for me with a better offer. I'm sure you understand, I mean you would have done the same in my shoes. No hard feelings bro?"


Quote: "I would have done the same thing, Mr.V is a hunk."




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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 18:55
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I have been suffering from DPD since last year. And yep, it's aweful.
The sad part is only the sufferer can understand how it is like. All the time I'm having internal dialogues about everything, sometimes I don't even know how I got somewhere, everything feels as seen through a camera lens, sometimes I have trouble "recognizing" myself on the mirror. The worst part is that with DPD you become so incredibly self involved, and that can give the appearance as if you don't care about others. This is specially difficult for me as I'm married.
I've been feeling like this 24/7 since last year, and there's absolutely no treatment for it. Someday you just "come back".
What I do know, is that it can be caused by an extreme period of stress. I can relate to that, since exactly last year my wife got interned into the hospital pretty much the whole year becasue of a pregnancy with complications, I got an extremely painful kidney stone, and many relatives died, on the same period. All of that, I theorize, caused my DPD episode. I hope you can "come back" soon, and can only give you a few pointers:
-Drugs, specially psychodelics, are the worst thing for this.
-Alcohol comsumption exacerbates the feeling.
-Never try to do many things at a time, like playing games while discussing, it makes the feeling get much much worse.
-Lots of proper sleep do help making the surreal feeling go away.
-Avoid crowds, and more importantly avoid overstimulating situations.
That's all I can suggest.
Cheers.
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Thanks for the tips! Now is it only me or does the DR/DP get worse towards night. It isn't that bad during the morning but as the day goes on it steadily gets worse and worse for me.
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 19:21 Edited at: 8th Aug 2013 19:22
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@Obese and xCatalyst: You guys should take a look at my fathers shop.
(for real guys! Buy some... we have an insane amount of them in our house.)
His website used to exist in english, but I dont find the button for that right now.

I also believe that both of you have deeper believes/awareness in them than you admit here...you just know that a tech forum is the wrong place for that
I may be wrong.

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There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get stronger. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 20:26
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Quote: "Thanks for the tips! Now is it only me or does the DR/DP get worse towards night. It isn't that bad during the morning but as the day goes on it steadily gets worse and worse for me."

I find it gets worse if I'm hungry or exhausted. I think that's why large crowds stimulates it because it's quite a tiring situation.

Quote: "All the time I'm having internal dialogues about everything, sometimes I don't even know how I got somewhere, everything feels as seen through a camera lens, sometimes I have trouble "recognizing" myself on the mirror. The worst part is that with DPD you become so incredibly self involved, and that can give the appearance as if you don't care about others."

That sounds like me. When you describe it as "looking through a camera lens" do you mean you feel like you're not really there?
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I know that feeling. It is diccicult to describe. It feels like your not looking at your own hands and stuff. Like your watching yourself do things but not through your own eyes but a camera and you feel like your not really in control. It is so difficult to explain....
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xCatalyst
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Posted: 8th Aug 2013 21:37 Edited at: 8th Aug 2013 21:40
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Quote: "@Obese and xCatalyst: You guys should take a look at my fathers shop.
(for real guys! Buy some... we have an insane amount of them in our house.)
His website used to exist in english, but I dont find the button for that right now.

I also believe that both of you have deeper believes/awareness in them than you admit here...you just know that a tech forum is the wrong place for that
I may be wrong."


Awesome, thanks for the tip! You have quite a beautiful selection, so you may just have a new customer And believe me, I can go on for hours about it, but I feel that many here might not be all that open to it. In short, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head.

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NIlooc223
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Have any of you tried aromatherapy? I am planning to try it. Specifically the lavender because it supposedly helps with anxiety and sleeping.
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Posted: 9th Aug 2013 01:19
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Quote: "It feels like your not looking at your own hands and stuff. Like your watching yourself do things but not through your own eyes but a camera and you feel like your not really in control."

I think that's a pretty good description. Isn't that just self-awareness though? I always feel like that if I'm not concentrating on something else.

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I feel like I can't concentrate on anything to. My vision sometimes gets a little blurry also. Some dizzyness to.
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Posted: 9th Aug 2013 07:43
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Quote: "I feel like I can't concentrate on anything to. My vision sometimes gets a little blurry also. Some dizzyness to."

That sounds like the symptoms of malnutrition to me, but I suppose it could also be stress or lack of sleep.

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xCatalyst
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Posted: 9th Aug 2013 08:22
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To be honest, I agree with Obese. I'd recommend getting attuned to a normal eating schedule (breakfast, lunch, dinner, lose the late night meals) as well as staying hydrated with water all day. Make sure you're getting atleast eight hours every night as well. Also, avoid staring at the computer for long periods of time. You don't realize how little you actually blink when you do so (same goes for television).

You'll be back on track in no time.

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My anxiety is also worse at night, too alone with my thoughts I think. Sleep is incredibly important. Nowadays I'm on a schedule where I go in pretty early (like 10 or 11), take something to help me sleep, and get a nice rest until 7. You feel a lot better when you're well rested, so get it any way you can.

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Quote: "My anxiety is also worse at night, too alone with my thoughts I think. Sleep is incredibly important. Nowadays I'm on a schedule where I go in pretty early (like 10 or 11), take something to help me sleep, and get a nice rest until 7. You feel a lot better when you're well rested, so get it any way you can.
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I'm doing the same but I am currently trying to get on that sleep schedule. It is not easy to adjust to.
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I have an incredibly warped sleep schedule. Sometimes I sleep for 3-4 hours then have a nap later in the day; sometimes I sleep 12 hours and then 4 the next night. My body seems to have a three day cycle where it must get 24 hours sleep, but it doesn't really care day to day. I can't go without any sleep at all though, needs to be at least two hours a night or I feel awful.

I find it very hard to stick to a regular sleeping pattern for more than 4-5 days.

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