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AppGameKit Classic Chat / [LOCKED] ok so i got hacked yesterday.

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haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:17
some ppl said im being too paranoid here on the forums..
well my army buddies traced this man who hacked into my pc , they found the address in Europe and that he is a member of TGC forums for quite some time now... i know who you are.. payback will be mine.
and you should not have done that. you made me very very unhappy and now im afriad to upload anything here or ask questions .. again we will speak soon but not here on the forum since this is not anyone business just you and me.

This Post is for all the ppl who said im being 2 paranoid, save your work.

Naphier
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:25
Can you share how it happened so that we can take precautions?
Did they snag your IP from using this site, or did they hack a dropbox account? or??
Thanks and sorry for the jerk...

Ancient Lady
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:27 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2013 19:28
Sorry to hear you got hacked. Glad to hear you identified who did it.

It's actually hard to be too paranoid with computers.

I just finished my daily security check for my VPS. Gotta love Perl scripts for analyzing logs.

Cheers,
Ancient Lady
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Daniel wright 2311
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:31
this is why it is important to have passwords set up on your pc and folders with your important work.

my signature keeps being erased by a mod So this is my new signature.
haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:33
i dont know how they traced him.. they just gave me his adress , full name.. etc (some other stuff) and showed me his email.. so this man and i already spoken here several times and he sent me an email once a while back.. so.. he is kinda stupid..

haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:39
what happend was that i found some "new" files inside my project dir.. and it was very weird cause i always check everything before i go to sleep cause google play takes a few hours to update if you upload somethin (new apk with fixes) so i do it before i go to sleep.. woke up in the morning and found this... talked with my friends.. and sometime after they found who did it..

Naphier
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:44
Are all of those folders local? Is there sharing set up on them? Are they synced with dropbox or something?
Just super curious because I don't want it to happen to me.

xCept
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 19:53
If you have legitimate evidence that someone from this forum hacked into your computer (IP, username/email) you should report it to TGC to have the user banned.
haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 20:07
folders are local. no sharing or anything that was a pure pc hack.

and xCept i cannot tell who it is... cause if i'll have to show the evidence i will will have to show how they found him and then it will rollback to my friends of doing illigal activity and since these men are soldiers.. well... you can see where it goes..

just letting him know that i know and my friends know is good enough. if i was him i wouldnot connect to any online on any device that is registered to his name or id / credit card etc... it is all being log.

haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 20:09
he should just be very very ashamed of himself. that is all no need to speak about it anymore actions is being taken as we speak.

Seditious
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 20:11
Are you sure your project wasn't stored in some sort of 'public' folder? I haven't used DropBox in a long time so I don't know if it does that anymore.

Other than that I would suggest setting a stronger password (and don't just make it a simple word; it should be a combination of letters and numbers).
haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 20:23
btw one more thing is , that the Anti virus did found a trojan that day.. removed it.. but it was too late.

Phaelax
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 20:56 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2013 20:58
I highly doubt someone got into your computer without you having anything open to allow them in. Run this and see what it says:

http://www.speedguide.net/portscan.php



Chances are, you downloaded the trojan and that's how he got in.

SoftMotion3D
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 21:36
Yeah generally a break in is caused from running something that leaks the info... Chances are you clicked yes to somethings it installed the virus on your pc.....or even better...you downloadedsomething with the virus and ran it.

If you traced it to tgc,so forums... Chances are that you downloaded a game or code from the forum....and the user that created the code probably doesn't even know the files infected.

So when you email the guy... There is actually a good chance he / she doesn't know their computer is infected.

I highly doubt that they purposely infected your pc.

haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 21:49
everything will be cleared soon. i'll let my friends do their thing see what his aiming at already got proof that he is using Nano Similar properties on his project. this is not a joke and i am not paranoid , my friends knows what their doing and if they say that it is an attack on purpose and not just a random thing i believe them.
just leave it the msg was delivered , he probably rad it.. actually i can check if he rad it or not.

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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 22:14
Why even post this here, what purpose does it serve?

Let me drop a bit of knowledge on you.

You do know that any attack (cyber or physical) from your "Army friends" on to foreign soil amounts to an international incident that can have serious government ramifications.

So, having your "friends" do anything other than report the information that they have "illegally" gathered to the proper authorities only places you and your "friends" at risk of potentially getting in trouble.

If you don't want to report it to the proper authorities, I tend to think that there is something on your PC that you want to hide. It's an assumption but I bet it is pretty accurate.

I recommend that you clean your machine, make sure your network security protocols are up to date and enabled and ensure that no ports have been hijacked.

next...

Password protect your development directories.

If I may ask, what new folders were added to you project directory?

RF
haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 23:09
dont worry we are not going to open a new war scenario because of one jackass.

haliop
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 23:11
and the purpose is so that he will know that we know. let him sleep on that.

bjadams
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2013 23:49
so now we have people with advanced hacker knowledge on TGC forum?
so hackers use AppGameKit T1 now?!
kamac
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 00:08 Edited at: 23rd Aug 2013 14:48
Quote: "so now we have people with advanced hacker knowledge on TGC forum?"


Ahem. I doubt.

Anybody can be a script kiddie, as they call them, and use ready solutions. (Like keyloggers / trojans / RATs)

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Mobiius
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 00:13
Have you let the authorities know?

A crime is a crime?

Posting on here that you know who it is, only serves to say your going to retaliate, which is another crime.

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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 00:33
haliop - I don't want to seem rude, but you do post a very large number of messages every day, reply to them yourself, involve us in the tinniest details of what you're doing etc.

In this case, if you are a genuine victim of cybercrime and theft, I suggest contacting your nearest Mossad office. They will be able to call in specialist forces and if necessary (or not) call in an air-strike.

If your shadowy "friends" have actually being using powerful military resources to track access to your computer without authorisation, posting these messages here is at best stupid and at worst likely to put your buddies in prison.

Suggestion: think before posting.

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Marl
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 01:51
Jim, you made my day

( can't say why - they might be reading )

Seriously though, hackers breaking in and leaving files - what's that all about ?

Quote: "so now we have people with advanced hacker knowledge on TGC forum?"

I would hope so
haliop
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 11:18
jim... AirForce ? Mossad.. man you see too much movies

Grook
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 14:29
To TGC. I think you should you archive and remove this thread immediately. I don't know whether haliop is genuine or genuinely puddled but he is discussing illegal activities and it does your cause no good. I have no beef with him but I would also consider a ban.

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kamac
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 14:44 Edited at: 23rd Aug 2013 14:48
There's nothing better than suggesting moderators how to do their job

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Grook
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 14:48
Quote: "
There's nothing better than suggesting moderators how to do their job
"


Offering an opinion is all, something wrong with that?

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kamac
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 14:50
I have nothing against it personally, but most moderators do.

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Grook
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 14:54
Most, really? If you get upset every time someone offers an opinion you probably need to learn to relax.

It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.”
JimHawkins
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 15:06
haliop - Check the writers on this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144577/

I do know the difference between Mossad and Shin Bet - been there, talked to them. I'm just suggesting that you don't treat this forum like a Facebook page.

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SoftMotion3D
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 16:09 Edited at: 23rd Aug 2013 16:10
Oh boy....

Consider the facts...

Most people that use tgc products use them for saving time coding as well as having the lack of knowledge coding in native languages.

Hackers general don't go after a single entity either... Most of them are kept busy going after big companies...and creating serial key cracks.

The hackers that go after single entities are generally looking for money. Eg. Allot of fake virus remover software that floats around the net asks for a credit card to remove the fake virus that is infected itself...

I'd do what was posted above... Back up your work,format you drives and start over... It's not like your the only person hit with the same scenario.

It was most likely something you installed accidently or clicked yes to in a browser.


(kill this thread) nobody else needs to be involved with your virus infected pc.

This is an agk board not.... I got hacked board

haliop
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 21:45
haliop
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2013 22:03
and if you want to ban me as the one with the Pirate Flag said.. then do it cause i dont think i have done anything wrong but building an awesome system that someone else from this forum tried to steal. good thing Nano Canvas is only about 5 percent of the entire system.

Grook
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Posted: 24th Aug 2013 00:22 Edited at: 24th Aug 2013 00:23
haliop, I'm not going to bother listing the things you've done wrong because anyone with half a brain can see that for themselves.

IF somebody tried to steal your awesome system you should have behaved in a more appropriate and mature manner. That's all I have to say on the matter. As Jim said, this forum isn't your personal facebook page.

It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.”
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Posted: 24th Aug 2013 01:20
So what is this NANO thing that keeps being mentioned all the time?
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Posted: 24th Aug 2013 01:37
Grook - With you 100%

bj - Don't invite more time-wasting irrelevance from haliop.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2013 03:33
Quote: "
Quote: "so now we have people with advanced hacker knowledge on TGC forum?"

Ahem. I doubt.
"


Why would you doubt this? There's a fine line between computer expert an hacker, in fact, there's really no difference at all.
For example, any computer expert knows that you should sanitize any input into a php script, especially if it uses SQL. The hacker knows this as well, they just exploit it on websites that don't sanitize their input too run their own SQL queries.

Any assembly coder knows about the security issues with machine code, stack smashing etc. The hacker just exploits this knowledge on software that doesn't protect the stack properly, and runs their own code on the system.

The Script Kiddie on the other hand is more harmless. Basically just keep all your software updated and have good AV and you're safe because they use well known exploits that can be protected against.


What haliop's friends did may not even be illegal, depending on how they did it. If they simply looked at logs on the computer, found the attackers IP, and traced it, there's nothing illegal in that [1]. Of course, if they then gained remote access to the attackers computer and found evidence, they is illegal.
But simply tracing an ip address is not always accurate, this website says I live in Baulkham Hills, NSW, Australia. But I don't, NSW, Australia, yes, but I'm no where near Baulkham Hills. That's probably where my ISP's main server is.


Despite what I wrote about hackers, I strongly doubt a competent hacker broke into your system, more likely a skiddie, reason? Breaking into a well protected system requires 0-day exploits, which, as soon as they're are used, will obviously become known and will normally be patched up within a week. I think company's legally have to patch up known exploits within 14 day, not sure on that though.
An attacker wouldn't waste one on something like this.

You said you received an email from him, were there any links in it? Maybe attachments. This is the easiest way, especially if you've got a vulnerable version of java, which is quite likely.
If he managed to get you to install some software on your computer that was infected (easy to do), it could have connected back to his machine and given him full remote access.

Anyway, I'll stop guessing how it was done, all you really need to do is reinstall your OS (after backing up of course), reinstall your software (get latest versions), put your files back on and you're uninfected.
Too get back, you should contact the authorities.




[1]Can you legally track an IP address


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haliop
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Posted: 24th Aug 2013 09:21
Mods just remove this , this post wasnt a mistake like some ppl here think it delivered a very intense massage to the hacker.. damn this man always answer my stuff but now he didnt.. so.. thats just another proof of him doing that. so just remove it , the msg was delivered and he will not sleep so good the following nights.. (knowing) ..

about all others, i will not continue this ... i just wanted the first post to be on for a few days.. and it kinda got messed up.. just leave it.. this is my problem not yours,peace.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2013 11:55 Edited at: 24th Aug 2013 11:56
Quote: "Why would you doubt this? There's a fine line between computer expert an hacker, in fact, there's really no difference at all.
For example, any computer expert knows that you should sanitize any input into a php script, especially if it uses SQL. The hacker knows this as well, they just exploit it on websites that don't sanitize their input too run their own SQL queries.

Any assembly coder knows about the security issues with machine code, stack smashing etc. The hacker just exploits this knowledge on software that doesn't protect the stack properly, and runs their own code on the system.

The Script Kiddie on the other hand is more harmless. Basically just keep all your software updated and have good AV and you're safe because they use well known exploits that can be protected against."


I doubt, because I don't think we have hackers, or actually crackers on this forum that are experts and are able to, as you said, break into well protected system by discovering 0-day exploits.

If anything, there might be script kiddes.

I don't agree skids can be more harmful, though. There is a smaller chance that he is able to break into something, compared to cracker/hacker. Even if they lay waste in form of website defacements / w.e. in this context, they still don't really know what are they doing.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2013 12:00 Edited at: 25th Aug 2013 12:01
I think the "Nano" he refers to, is a new assets (pictures?) compression algorithm, that can make the APK's "nano-sized", meaning, small. If so, it REALLY is worth stealing/hacking, since it would be valuable. Correct me if i'm wrong.

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haliop
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Posted: 25th Aug 2013 12:25
Phaelax
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Posted: 25th Aug 2013 18:38
Quote: "I don't think we have hackers, or actually crackers on this forum that are experts and are able to"


Maybe that's just what they want you to think

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Posted: 25th Aug 2013 22:11 Edited at: 25th Aug 2013 22:11
Quote: "Maybe that's just what they want you to think "

I personally would rather have them on the inside looking out than on the outside looking in
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Posted: 2nd Sep 2013 12:48
Hi all, I'm back from 2 weeks away and just spotted this thread. This is disturbing on a number of levels.

haliop, if you are suggesting that someone from these forums has hacked your computer that is one thing that should be dealt with. As a moderator I would like you to contact me or another moderator (if you feel more comfortable talking to someone else) about who it is so that we can keep an eye on their activity.

If you have real evidence then you should hand it over to the police.

If the evidence was gained through illegal means then you are advertising an illegal activity on the TGC website which goes against the AUP and this will in itself need to be dealt with.

If you don't have evidence then you are making a false accusation towards a member of the forum (although luckily you haven't said who that person might be).

There is the possibility that you are making this accusation as some form of absurd publicity stunt (similar to your recent spamming about Nano), I hope this is not the case.

Whatever the reason and situation this thread is a problem, I am locking it until we have reached the bottom of this can of worms. Please contact a moderator to resolve these issues. I am not putting anyone on moderation, just letting people know that such accusations are taken seriously.

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