TheComet
Quote: "Drunk? Even if I were drunk I still wouldn't be mixing up my "your" and "you're" like you are."
Lol, sadly the internet does not require me to be fully qualified in correct use of grammar, later in your post you call me childish.... forgive my bad typing if you can, I do my best I promise.
Quote: "Well then it's obviously not well organised, is it?"
Er TGC can only go so far in terms of organisation, can`t hold them responsible for other peoples failings!
Quote: "My proof? My whole post was my opinion. I roam GC, DBPro, DBP Newcomers, DBC, Dark GDK, and I'm pretty sure I have a good feeling for how the community is functioning. If you've paid any attention you'll notice that most of the traffic on this forum is on GC (correct me if I'm wrong in saying this). At least compared to the other boards I'm active on."
Sorry but when you used "analyse" I was expecting to see proof, but yes GC does appear more active. I guess I saw "I think" as completely separate to this part, although same paragraph its a different sentence.
Quote: "The general gist: A lot of users aren't really using TGC products any more, they've moved on to bigger and better things.
If you compare the traffic today to how the traffic was 2 years ago, you'll see a drastic drop. You've been here long enough to see this, I'm sure."
Agreed.
Quote: "Because it is a disaster! As someone who's been programming in C/C++ for years I am insulted by the code I see and by the help most users have tried to give. It doesn't take a genius to look at the code people produce and notice that the vast majority is very badly structured, full of memory leaks (because C++ is such a language that will blow your leg off if you don't know what you're doing) and just plain wrong.
The DarkGDK boards are basically dead. There are two users, s_i and WickedX, who are using it as a replacement for skype. You call that an active and healthy community?"
I don`t doubt what you say regarding quality, I don`t frequent the board much, but here`s the thing - I was still under the impression it was supposed to be an analysis rather than opinion, I view it as that when you ask for help you are not guaranteed to be satisfied with it, when people are learning still and they think they have the answers requested they will sometimes post, so when you ask for it and are not satisfied as those were the type of responses you got, then you may percieve this as disastrous, as you said earlier a lot have moved on - I was looking at this through the entire time its been available on the forum and in the earlier days I read posts a lot of people seemed happy enough with repsonses. Here I have made the mistake of time, you are clearly refering to more current times, my apologies.
Quote: "I have tried, and that board is more dead than DarkDGK."
If folk
want to help they can still help - on the right board. I don`t think my view on this will change, that said I still remain open minded on the matter. Not that my view on the subject matters much! Surely this is a case of "things come up in conversation"?
Quote: "I have no problem with minors making games, in fact I encourage it and think it's a great exercise. I was making a sarcastic jab at the situation of FPSC and you failed to interpret it as such."
Good to hear(read) - Yes I missed the sarcasm!
Quote: "Because these exact people are ex-DBPro programmers. Most of these people would download DBPro elite in the blink of an eye and return to the community, that's why it's so important to keep them here."
Well you never mentioned anything about them all being ex dbp coders hence the confusion. To anyone not knowing this was what you meant then it looks like your saying the other engines don`t have a forum to use. I otherwise agree. Although we can`t keep them here if they already left!!
Quote: "This may come as news to you, but we haven't had any new users for quite a while (at least that's my observation on the boards I'm active on). 2 years ago there was a new user every week."
Lol I didn`t miss that sarcasm! Knowing what you meant , of course I agree.
Quote: "And that's exactly why you're not a mod, that kind of childish behaviour would be devastating."
No, Im` not a MOD because a)I haven`t been asked b)I wouldn`t want to be. Besides this I am saying even if I was a MOD I wouldn`t lock it because folk enjoy it. Theres nothing childish about proving a point. You seem to be viewing the community as people who actively post, whereas I view it as site activity. A few hours ago I looked at the number veiwing the whole site - there were 98 users logged in and 8 users anonymous, the majority of the named users logged in I have seen posts many times before, I therefore see them as part of the community. This is obviously only over a period of 15 minutes but they still visited. However most of them did not make a single post. Do you see where I am coming from? Just because people don`t post all the time doesn`t mean they are not part of the community. The site is more active than you think, in my opinion of course.
Quote: "You're not listening to what I'm saying. I said that a large chunk of the community would have nowhere to post any more"
I get what your saying, but in line with my view on the community I disagree with what you call a large chunk. We may have to beg to differ on this one.
Quote: "WIP threads are banned in GC, non TGC related WIP threads are banned everywhere else on the forum"
erm, I don`t get what your saying here? Its not as though the "chunk" are posting WIPs in the that thread? HAve I missed something in what your saying?
Earlier you said The Posting Competition is the most active part of the forum, are you comparing it to any other single thread or against boards? Or are you talking of how much attention it gets from numbers of users? Heres the thing - for you to state that locking the thread will lose half the community is to me absurd. The AppGameKit board alone would be significantly more by a long shot. Collectively all the boards that recieve posts would still be more by a long shot. Also these figures would not include those that view the site without posting. I hope you see what I`m saying, don`t get me wrong I understand we might see some number of people going elswhere, ones I would rather stay, but the bigger picture is that those people arent keeping TGC afloat. TGC know exactly what they are doing, they are earning money and doing whats best to keep earning that money while trying their utmost to find a happy medium between their workload and keeping their end users happy. They aren`t like m$, they care for their community a lot, if they didn`t we wouldn`t have these products in the first place or all of those wonderful updates and dbp for free. They to are enthusiasts so they know where we stand. Times change and if they don`t move with it they(and we) will get left behind. They have a history of doing this so we should trust them is all I`m saying. Yes the community is split to a degree but life goes on and we must all roll with the times, nothing stays good forever, thats just the way things are.
