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AppGameKit Studio Chat / Forum Closure Feb 10 2025 - Unofficial Subreddit Announced - Other Community Spaces

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Mage
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Posted: 10th Feb 2025 02:43
TGC has announced the forum is closing Feb 10 2025.
https://www.thegamecreators.com/post/tgc-account-system-retirement

It's believed at this time that the forums will remain available in read only mode for some time.
This means we don't know how long they will remain available, if at all.
Nobody will be able to download attachments, because that requires a login.
https://forum.thegamecreators.com/thread/229800#msg2678696

Where the community will continue:
I have setup a subreddit, with downloadable resources, addons, etc:
https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkBasicDev/
Everyone is welcome! All products!

SyntaxBomb has an active forum for AppGameKit:
https://www.syntaxbomb.com/appgamekit-agk/

TGC is running a Discord Server for AppGameKit:
https://discord.gg/bAKbpPUz2E

AppGameKit also maintains a presence on Steam:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1024640/AppGameKit_Studio/

TGC is running a Discord Server for GameGuruMax:
https://discord.gg/uzPn6CFcCr

Unofficial Forum for all products TGC, forum setup by Teabone:
https://gamedevresort.freeforums.net/

Game Guru Classic Discord Server:
https://discord.com/invite/xnTAbBR

Call To Action - Help Wanted!
It is important that we gather up every plugin, every download we can before they become lost forever.
This includes files for other products like FPSC, DarkGDK, AppGameKit, Everything.
Please reach out on the subreddit and other places to be helpful. It matters!

The subreddit has Dark Basic Professional, DarkGDK, and FPSC files posted.
A few important guides for AppGameKit are there.
We hope to expand on this as we are still curating some of the files.

I don't have knowledge of the other TGC products and I'll need help finding and posting files worth preserving on the subreddit.

We need to make sure we can find each other after this and that we keep resources available!
Please help!

Forum Backups
A partial backup of the forum now exists, and is posted to the subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkBasicDev/comments/1ij4nsc/tgc_forum_backups_appgamekit_darkbasic_more/
The threads can now be searched and recalled offline.
Please spread this far and wide!


Special Thanks to those that helped and continue to help!
Phaelax
bitJericho
Evolved
Teabone
James H
Kuper
TheComet
And everyone else.


Thanks everyone! May we continue to be a community. Please reach out on the subreddit any time.
There are a few forum options such as Teabone's forum or maybe Syntax Bomb will open up space.
At least the subreddit is there to link things together and offer helpful, findable resources!

AppGameKit still has a lot of options still such as the official Discord servers, and Steam.
Hopefully some of these can be made available to legacy TGC products and communities!

It has been an amazing 20+ years. It is sad to see an era end.
I guess we won't be getting that DBP patch we always were asking about!

Thank you so much and may the best be yet to come!
Good Luck!

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Posted: 14th Feb 2025 17:36
A great list of resources there Mage. Thank you.

Do you happen to know who looks after the SyntaxBomb forum? I tried to join a while ago but my account never got activated. When I try to send an email to them it always bounces back with a "probably spam" error - no matter what I put in the message. I was hoping it would take over where this place leaves off. Thanks.
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Posted: 15th Feb 2025 18:16
Qube looks after the Syntaxbomb forum
Mage
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Posted: 16th Feb 2025 00:07 Edited at: 16th Feb 2025 00:10
I don't know the operator or have any contact with him. Not even a member of the board since it's been an AppGameKit (and mostly other things) board thus far.

If anyone can get them to open up a section over there for other TGC products, I'll link it on the subreddit!
(And join up)

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Posted: 18th Feb 2025 13:35
Hi Mage, I've downloaded v3 of the forums and not all of the pages have been backed up. I.e. in the studio chat forum thread 229731 only has one page instead of 2.
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Posted: 18th Feb 2025 18:02
Thanks I will double check that!

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Posted: 19th Feb 2025 14:49
It looks like scrubbing the links on profiles interfered with grabbing additional pages for some threads. So I'll go back to the originals over the next few days and rerun the automation and update the backups.

This affects less than .1 percent of the posts, just to provide perspective.

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Posted: 19th Feb 2025 16:58 Edited at: 19th Feb 2025 17:01
That's great Mage, thank you. I had ago at writing a vb.net app today to scan the directories into a treeview with the ability to search and then display the webpage in a web viewer built into the app. It's a bit slow at searching so I may try a different approach, perhaps using a datagrid maybe.
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Posted: 27th Feb 2025 04:07
The AppGameKit forum is backed up. User emails have been stripped, board index and page links work locally. Only drawback is code snippets don't expand (I forgot to include the script that made them work) They made the code snippet html more complicated than it needed to be. I'll update the files as I get to them along with the rest of the boards. Getting the backups done has become a lower priority for me right now since learning the forum will still be viewable after talking to someone with TGC. They are looking into making attachments accessible once the login system goes away, but no word on when that'll be.


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Posted: 27th Feb 2025 18:55 Edited at: 27th Feb 2025 18:58
Full Forum backups have been updated, and reprocessed from scratch to include a large number (all) of missing pages.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkBasicDev/comments/1ij4nsc

Also multi-paged threads now link up and are much easier to follow and read.

This is expected to be the final definitive backup.
(competing efforts notwithstanding)

(This is a downloadable comprehensive backup covering all threads and pages.)

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Posted: 28th Feb 2025 20:03
Excellent! thank you so much!
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Posted: 1st Mar 2025 10:59
Glad to help. Phaelax has graciously shared a javascript snipet that may be added to the html to allow code blocks to open. So I am looking at the potential of updating the backup a final time to include this.
It would be a final update if so since that is the last lingering issue with the backup.

(This will be sorted out within the next few days if so)
(I don't mean to be constantly updating the backup, and that is coming to an end)

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Posted: 1st Mar 2025 16:17
If you and Phaelex can do that I will be more than happy. I appreciate the amount of effort you have both put into this and I am sure AppGameKit users will be very grateful.

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2025 19:02
Phaelax provided code to allow code blocks work.
Updated the backup with this enhancement.
Sorry. This should be the final definitive backup.

So now:
multi-page threads are linked together.
Code blocks are working.

Hurray!

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Posted: 4th Mar 2025 14:45 Edited at: 4th Mar 2025 17:07
That's great news. Thank you for all the effort you have put into this.

I've downloaded v7 and the code snippets seem to be working great
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Posted: 10th Mar 2025 14:00
@phaelax, I've sent you a PM as I have.a problem registering for your new forum.
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Posted: 10th Mar 2025 18:06
@zax,

i dont think there is actual registration for PT forum yet. i log in to the scoretable side of things and it shows me logged in to the forums there but it's a mock function last time i checked. i know the priority was to back up the forums here and fleshing out phaelax' new forum is gonna be an on-going project.
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Posted: 10th Mar 2025 21:23 Edited at: 10th Mar 2025 21:25
I think the forum is up and running now:

https://purpletoken.com/forum/

My activation email was in my spam folder
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Posted: 10th Mar 2025 21:37
Thanks I was not aware this link was publicly circulated. I will add it to the subreddit.

Thanks Phaelax for the great work!

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Posted: 10th Mar 2025 21:43
On closer inspection, the site appears to be a WIP and the search function is non functional. Many of the forum sections are not yet hosted.
Apologies if this got announced early. Looking great so far!

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Posted: 11th Mar 2025 00:13
The PT forum will rely on the existing PT user base. If you don't see a PT registration email check the spam folder. I'm working on tying everything together between my new forum and the rest of PT. The forum is live now but still a work in progress. Rather do the easy thing of installing phpBB, I wrote one from scratch. File upload and and language syntax for code snippets is still being worked out but BB codes should all (mostly) work. I'm not sure if I supported list items yet or not. I've been debating on what language highlighter to use, either let the server handle it upon page delivery or follow in TGC's footsteps of letting javascript do the work on the user's end. I'm trying to keep the forum as lightweight as possible by avoiding things like jquery or other large libraries. We'll see if I stick to that once I get to file uploads, because what I have planned is based off of file management program I wrote as a frontend for Apache NiFi that ended up getting scrapped by the big man.

I'm working on this as much as I can, but my day job is something that is affected by things like DOGE and the past few weeks have been umm interesting.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2025 11:11
The subreddit was updated to include a lot of helpful community links.
Previously this was only viewable in "old reddit" mode.

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Phaelax

Excellent..


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Posted: 1st May 2025 21:29
In case anyone still looks here, here's my forum address:
https://purpletoken.com/forum/

File uploads and the syntax highlighter have been implemented. For now, file sizes are limited to 1mb but I'll up eventually. Believe it or not, handling large uploads through a website is not as straight forward as one might think. But I wrote my own chunking library that I've tested on 4GB files. (that was part of an older project of mine) I decided to use PrismJS for the code highlight, but had to build my own AppGameKit language file.

I didn't include all supported languages from Prism, but here's a list of what is support on my forum as of today.


I think everything from a user's perspective is complete. All the admin/mod type stuff in the background is still being developed. I also reworked how BB codes were handled.


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Posted: 8th May 2025 13:19
I have had your website listed in the subreddit side bar for a while. However I notice you have a lot of missing forum sections, I am not sure if these are planned. I have the link labelled incomplete, I had been hoping to remove that. Will you be putting up the whole forum archive?

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Posted: 8th May 2025 13:42
Maybe I should list it as WIP work in progress.

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