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Program Announcements / BlueIDE Update - 1.01 Released

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Lost in Thought
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Posted: 19th May 2005 15:44
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Quote: "Basically if you stand on your head and then look at a monitor screen all the text seems to be upside down."


That is odd. Never noticed it before.

And that other issue has been around forever. I thought it was already known.

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Rob K
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Posted: 19th May 2005 21:12
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Hi Philip

Save the DBA source file, and then click the browse button next to the "Main Source File" text box on the Project tab and select that source file as the main one for the current project. This may re-open the file.


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Sensen Werk
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Posted: 20th May 2005 08:56
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Hey Rob, just wanna thank you for this wonderful IDE!
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Philip
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Posted: 20th May 2005 09:04
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Er, but my point is that the save as command should surely save as a project on every occasion, without needing a workaround?

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Philip
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Posted: 22nd May 2005 23:15
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I think I'm being ignored.

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yep looks that way

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Raven
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Posted: 23rd May 2005 12:43
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product support on a free open source project.. heh can't beat the experience.

if you have Visual Basic, Philip; then you should be able to quickly check over the routines to see what the problem might be.

what it sounds to me, is that the grey-out for when a dba is loaded outside of a project .. and blue can't seem to understand the difference. So I'd check along the lines of the disable switches, make sure that there are no silly things that switch it when other factors are in play.

no doubt it's using a Switch..Case rather than a If && .. that'd be my guess anyways.

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Posted: 26th May 2005 09:13
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Thanks Raven but why should I want to delve into someone else's source when I can pester RobK, the author, for whom I have huge respect, instead?

This is an economy of effort issue. RobK has almost almost 99.99999% perfected this wonderful IDE. This is just one very very minor teething problem. I thought I'd be helpful and raise it.

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Posted: 27th May 2005 02:54
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Hi Philip,

I have read your posts, don't worry. BlueIDE currently has a few problems which mean that the current codebase is not the way forwards:

1) It is based on an editing component which is no longer supported and hasn't had updates for well over a year.

2) The inner-workings of the IDE are a complete mess and hacks to fix bugs will inevitably create new ones.

3) The IDE is written in Visual Basic 6 and as such, does not support Unicode.

There can of course, be only one solution to this problem...


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Posted: 27th May 2005 03:48
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and that is a rebuild from scratch, question is what language are you going to use?

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Posted: 27th May 2005 09:33
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I recommend: telepathy.

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Posted: 19th Jun 2005 22:56 Edited at: 19th Jun 2005 22:56
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The IDE is VB6, uhhhh!!! Ooops!

Dear RobK,
As to the post about not know C++ or caring to learn it. That's is still true, but as the IDE is not C++ But VB6 (which I do know some of.) I will begin to try to contribute to it as soon as I purchase a new copy of VB as my old one has bit the dust. I will still help with Rainbow also however.
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Posted: 19th Jun 2005 23:00
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When I get started on it, I will begin with the cleaning up of the source. Then move toward bugs and an eventually a full rewrite. Maybe if a few of us programmers with VB knowledge can help to support Rob, he can support us better too.
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Posted: 19th Jun 2005 23:37
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I've added the keyword to the BlueIDE.ini as well

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I'm going to be using VB.Net for working on the IDE. Will this be a problem Rob?

Breaking Stuff=Fun!,Bug Testing<>Fun!, Bug Testing=Breaking Stuff, so...
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It wouldn't be hard to convert it over to another language, though the problem with the current design isn't the programming itself.

Has far more to do with the fact of relying on the built-in VB6 command structure. Converting across to .NET would definately solve quite a few problems, but you would be looking at completely recoding it from the ground up.

Problem with that would be in order to make it useable by everyone you'd need to make it using .NET 1.1. While I don't doubt someone can achieve this, making it stable and as lean (heh yeah who'd think you'd ever see those words related to the next) as VB6 then it requires one hell of a lot of skill on the programmer.

A good point if you can code it visually for the most part. I would also highly recommend using XML instead of ActiveX CodeMax to create your IntelliSense with.

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005 03:51
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Quote: " I'm going to be using VB.Net for working on the IDE. Will this be a problem Rob?
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BlueIDE won't compile in VB.NET unfortunately. Your offer of help is greatly appreciated, but I won't be continuing development of BlueIDE, since I don't think it is the way forwards. It is too early to announce any details of a new editor, but I will encourage community involvement when it is ready.


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Posted: 21st Jun 2005 04:28
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Eh, that doesn't sound good.


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Posted: 21st Jun 2005 07:37
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I'm just got VB.NET from a firend who didn't use it. On the cheap at that. I look into coverting it over and then move on from there.

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Quote: "... but I won't be continuing development of BlueIDE ..."


Oh no! Tell me thats not true.

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Posted: 21st Jun 2005 11:09
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tis still open source, someone else can fiddle with it for a while; no big loss, provided someone bothers. lol

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but what happens if noone does?


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Posted: 22nd Jun 2005 07:02 Edited at: 25th Jun 2005 01:01
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Personally I've decided not too. I'm going to wait for details on Rob's "new editor". I'm going to stick with helping out with Rainbow once the source is available for the newest version. Then if Rob's new editor is open source I'm might try something with it. Then again if all else fails I might use DBPro and BlueGUI to make my own open source DBPro Editor that the DBPro Comunnity itself can contribute to. How bout it Rob willing to work on that? I sure we'd get good community support.

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I'm starting on that editor. May I use BlueIDE as a model for it Rob?

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dude I tried this, it looks sweeet!

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Why you bump it?

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