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Dark GDK / Questions about the SDK?

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Keaz
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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 17:21
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It would seem to me a beta tool designed to work only with an outdated compiler has a few issues? Is TGC ever going to try to get it current? At least they should've tried to make it work with either GNU C++ or Visual Studio C++ Express(in beta but will be under $100 from ms at release) for lower consumer cost. It's hard to even get a copy of C++ 6.0 these days. I don't currently have C++ but I'm looking into getting it and will likely get .NET '05 next year. This will be then current tool.

I would love to be able to have a decent engine at that time and don't want to learn 1000+ new commands from another engine. My current project have been put off long enough.

My issue is this. Will TGC ever support a current development enviroment with the SDK?

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Mike Johnson
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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 18:42
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You can always use the Dark Game SDK with Visual C++ .NET 2003. That is the latest Microsoft compiler as far as I'm aware. Isn't the 2005 one still in beta? Sure we can support it when it is released but maybe a bit too early to do so right now.
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Keaz
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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 20:12
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But I've been told several times the support for the .Net edition of C++ is buggy at best. Is this being worked on?

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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 21:11 Edited at: 6th Aug 2005 21:11
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Quote: "But I've been told several times the support for the .Net edition of C++ is buggy at best."

Dark SDK doesn't work with .Net - it works fine with C/C++, ie the C/C++ part of Visual Studio .Net 2003.

Quite simple really.

2005 is rumoured to be out late this year - whether it will be is anyone's guess - much like Vista is supposed to be out next year.

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Keaz
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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 21:22
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Ok I missunderstood you from earlier. So the SDK will work will the C++ part of Studio .NET. That all I really needed anyway. Thx Bouncy I look forward to upgrading fairly soon. I plan to finish my IDE project for the community. The it's on to C++ w/SDK for my next project.

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Keaz
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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 21:23 Edited at: 6th Aug 2005 21:24
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Two final questions. Is there any form of help for the SDK? And is it public release or still beta?

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Keaz
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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 21:26
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Ooops. One more. Since the physics pack will be a TGC plugin will it be supported under the SDK?

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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 21:29 Edited at: 6th Aug 2005 21:32
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Quote: "Since the physics pack will be a TGC plugin will it be supported under the SDK?"

It may or may not be - I asked Mike about this a while ago. At the moment its unknown.

Quote: "Is there any form of help for the SDK?"

Yes - CHM away...

Quote: "And is it public release or still beta?"

Only the last patch is - still

There is supposed to be an update coming - Mikes busy with other things at the moment though...

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Keaz
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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 21:45
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Ok, again bouncy thanks for your help your a credit to the mods. There is a post that needs locking in general discussion. It's one I started and I'm making the request. The second page deteriorated into a flame war even when I tried to play nice.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2005 21:54 Edited at: 7th Aug 2005 00:32
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Quote: "credit to the mods"

Oh, so very true.

And dont forget to vote for AtomZ

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Posted: 7th Aug 2005 01:29
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I vote all power gets removed from bouncy brick for continual shameless pluging! This obviously falls under abuse of power by using it as leverage to gain votes

I'll be at your door with a pitch fork equiped mob on monday Bouncy.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2005 01:30
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That'll be okay - I've got to try my matter disruptor on someone...

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Posted: 7th Aug 2005 02:26
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Just when I give you a complement you have to go and make threats... Bad mod no more twinkies.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2005 13:24 Edited at: 7th Aug 2005 13:24
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What the hell is a Twinkie ? Is it robot from Buck Rogers ?

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