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Dark GDK / C++ 6 or C++ .NET 2003 ?

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Morcilla
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 13:51
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Hi there,

I'm guessing that C++ .NET 2003 is the winner, because it is newer and it works with DirectX 9.0 SDK Update - (August 2005), while in the other hand, with C++ 6 you have to use October 2004 DX9...uh.

So if you know any other details about compatibility, speed or advantages of one above the other, I would appreciate any answer. Also please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks in advance.
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 14:02
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One problem I do have with VS 6 is that with every other save you get a "file in use" message for some reason - so first save is okay, second save you get the message, third is okay. Happens on XP and 2000 (if I rememeber correctly).

The other problem with VS6 is there is no real support for it, especially DirectX

2003 is pretty decent, nice to use - although its getting on a bit now (and there were never any updates for it). But it can be used with the latest DirectX, DarkSDK and the compiler is good.

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Morcilla
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 15:07 Edited at: 14th Sep 2005 15:07
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I see. Thanks Bouncy.

C++ .NET 2003 is staying with us then

I've seen it in amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/466627/103-0263342-0785457

at $89.99, I supose that it is a good deal
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Unles you want to spend £1000+ on the professional version

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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 15:31
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Quote: "
One problem I do have with VS 6 is that with every other save you get a "file in use" message for some reason - so first save is okay, second save you get the message, third is okay.
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something broken there x_X I have -never- had that problem with vc6 and im still using it now x_X

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mmm. The 2005 version is about to come out. Wouldn´t it be better to wait for that version as MS will most likly drop support for 2003 as soon as they can?

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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 15:38 Edited at: 14th Sep 2005 15:43
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Probably, but I've no idea what the prices will be. I suspect the standard one will be similar to the 2003 standad, but Profession will cost a lot more. Plus DarkSDK may need converting to use it.

Quote: "omething broken there x_X I have -never- had that problem with vc6 and im still using it now x_X"

It happened on several XP machines, so I've no idea what the problem is. Dont really care either as I dont use it anymore (and haven't for several years now)

What is annoying is that the Platform SDK doesn't include everything in VS 2003 (probably so everyone doesn't just download it)...

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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 17:29
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C++ 2005 Express : $50
Express (Beta 1/2) works a treat with DGSDK. So you could just use that free until they release it.

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Fair enough

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Quote: " C++ 2005 Express : $50"

Cool.Making games will be such a cheap hobby when I learn OO.

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Its one of the cheapest things you can do on your own

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bouncy ive seen that error before too. seems to come and go every now and then.

weird eh
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Certainly is, and there is no real good reason for it either.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2005 13:41 Edited at: 15th Sep 2005 13:41
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I see it very frequently here at work.

One thing that can cause it is if you've got indexing turned on for an ntfs partition (to enable fast searching etc). Sometimes the index process will read a file at the same time as vc6 is trying to save, and so you get the locked message.

I've had the same thing caused by wincvs as well...
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That fast indexing can be a real pain...

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Ham And Mushroom Tagliatelle-

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Its what I'm having for lunch tomorrow. Tesco's own brand

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ah. Logical.

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Indeed. Might change it tomorrow...

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what is the simplest working compiler out there ?
Raven you quote "Vc++ Express 2005" but this is not officially working with DGDK .

Does it work ? i assume you don't post it just to say something ..

I read Vc++6 is sort of rusted by now . and there is .net 2003 but what compiler is the fastest / cheapest / more optimized etc ?

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