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3 Dimensional Chat / Face of Beauty contest - WIP thread

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greenlig
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Posted: 8th Dec 2005 19:51
LOL @ BIGADD whoah...not meant to have capslock there, but for added effect, I'LL LEAVE IT!!!

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Posted: 8th Dec 2005 20:45
@BigAdd, nope blender has similarities to Cinema 4D, my friend was looking at old Amiga programs and we came across Cinema 4D R1 I doube blender is that old Heck its proly older than Maya + Max

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Posted: 8th Dec 2005 21:21
I still am having trouble with the face, still the nose mouth and ears. I can add verts to existing lines but that doesnt help me much, as I'd end up making a frigging grid out of the persons face. I do prefer box modeling myself. That's how I've done everything thus so far. But should I just make her face a high poly 3d grid and fix it after I'm done? (play it out like those neat little drawing grids in the coloring books)

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 01:48
I dont think grids are the way to go with face modelling. Either do it by box modelling...ala http://www.linuxgraphic.org/section3d/blender/pages/didacticiels/head-subsurf/index-ang.html
Once again its blender, but it has concepts and diagrams that would be helpful in all programs.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 03:19
Blender has been around since 1988.
You can do whatever floats your boat insanity. I think its pretty hard to shape a grid into a face personally, you won't have the verts in the right places. Poly by poly works well, or box modelling. My lady looks a little better now, still have some more stuff to do and i think im gonna change the hair do.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 05:06 Edited at: 9th Dec 2005 05:07
No...I mean making the face very high poly making a "grid like" effect. I'm just saying I'm making more verts for me to work with ON the face by chopping the individual faces and connecting the new verts.


[EDIT] sorry about sig file size, it said file size:not available when I opened it's properties.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 05:20
Well, couldn't you just hit subdivide a couple times?

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 05:22
Yes but that also changes the shape...

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 05:42
Does wings have a normal subdivide tho? One that just adds in more verts? In blender you can just press subdivide and it doubles the verts.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 15:01
@Ooga booga, didn't catch the date of the first C4D, so its a draw

Subdivision shouldn't change the shape much, it just makes things smoother

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 15:37
It made a square into a "circle" with by using it twice... And its smooth, not sure if it's exactly same as subdivide.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 15:59
Nah smooth just tries to get rid of the edges, and it may in the process subdivide. IMHO it shouldnt subdivide as well, becuase that eliminates a level of control. Hmm...all the signposts are pointing towards the monkey...suzanne!

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 16:01 Edited at: 9th Dec 2005 16:02
well, with hyper nurbs in Cinema 4D (The Cinema 4D term for subdivision as an object) it turns a cube into something sphere like, here, I'll show you want I mean




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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 23:22
^^ ur sphere that u made from smoothing cube is what happens with two smooths of my squares. It's a little more blockish when you smooth once though.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 23:31
They should be relatively the same, but on characters it should have a similar effect to the dude up there and not change the shape much

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 23:34 Edited at: 9th Dec 2005 23:35
I guess...

[edit] oh hey, do you know which song im refering to?

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Dunno the name, but give me a second I'll dig it out of I-tunes I got it on my Best of Coal Chamber album..

...nah can't be bothered, I'll let you know when I hear it

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Why are there so many guy's? Either most of the moddeller's here are girls, or.. um ... you know.

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 00:05
Quote: "or.. um ... you know."



no we dont, what be you insinuating?

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 00:12
Quote: "Why are there so many guy's? Either most of the moddeller's here are girls, or.. um ... you know"


mainly because making the (softer) lines on a females face are harder than a male who generally has more pronounced feature/lines....
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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 00:15 Edited at: 10th Dec 2005 00:16
@Manticore, that model isn't my entry, its a character model i was using to show subdivisions with Insanity Complex, because he seemed to be worried about deforming his model, I haven't started my entry yet

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But what are you insinuating? Maybe we could discuss it in a hot tub and a couple of Margaritas whilst in short shorts and maybe listen to Queen worshipping my freddy Murcury statue

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 01:51
Lol, sepp im up for that! Then we can chill with some Village people and wear tight pants covered in sequins...

Maybe not though.

Im doing a woman...but at the moment she is going through Kimo therapy and has no hair

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 02:12 Edited at: 10th Dec 2005 02:12
I completely remade my model! I think it looks a lot better but thats just me. Im doing a girl too if you can't tell :p




My bro says he is gonna join! He has never done 3d modelling before except for a couple times under my supervision so he isn't very good :p. But he thinks it will be fun to see how his ends up looking so im installing blender on his comp for him. I guess he will have to make an account here to.

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 02:17
Isnt it great when you make a convert? lol

The model looks a lot better now! Great that youve gone for the styleized look rather than the uberreal one. Mouth looks a little bit funny though.

good model!

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 03:59 Edited at: 10th Dec 2005 03:59
I added eyelashes!

This took forever to render w/ AO lol.

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 05:40 Edited at: 10th Dec 2005 05:41
thats pretty good ooga booga

i like the eyes
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well heres my entry...almost finished.

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well, I'm here. My first time on any forum of any sort.

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I was gonna make homer simpson just for a joke

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Made one anyway

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@DBmad
Lol He looks cool. Like the hair, really stylish! But his face is too wide, and maybe he should be cell-shaded.

@greenlig
Great model! But her face still has some sharp edges.

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Cool, eyelashes! But there's something about her mouth and nose that scares me... Can't figure out what though. Nicely done though!


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@DBmad, see you're still getting the ropes of C4D, but its still stylish

@Greenlig looks great, reminds me of a stressed out single mother
If you really want to join me in the hot tub I'll meet you behind KFC at 6:30 tomorrow
@Ooga Booga, looks great, you and greenlig should have seperate votes to say the best blender user, as you two seem to be on the same level, but it won't happen unfortunately

@Klu I think I know what you mean, the upper lip isn't so level

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Posted: 11th Dec 2005 01:14 Edited at: 11th Dec 2005 01:15
I finally got my model to look human, and it is a dude just because that's how it looks. I just have to do ears...err...going to do headphones instead of ears, but still. It looks human and thats all I need.


[edit] oh yeah, pictures tommorow

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Kewl good to hear, my girl turn into a guy too, so its a redo, she'd be better off as a jester

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I don't care if mine is a guy or girl for this COMPO, I think it's really about the quality(of which mine is low, but it's better than previous attempts) Update tommorow.

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might join this one though my faces need some work but this will be good practice.

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Well I've managed to make my head look somewhat human and slightly female. All I have now really is the shape though, as I don't want to attempt eyes, ears, or a mouth until the shape is good. I'm absolutely terrified about the hair. If this was for a game it would be much simpler, but I've honestly got no clue as of yet on how to do realistic hair.


Check the WIP board for updates on Block Verse
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download a demo of Cinema 4D and work out how to use hair might work

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No no download blender(the official test build) for free and use the hair feature.

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I just thought the hair module in C4D would be easier, because you have fast and quick control which is easy to learn.

Anyway, I may forfeit this compo, I really don't want to, but well, A levels is to blame, for any brits out there, don't pick 4 subjects for your a levels, especially if they all require essay writing, you will have no life

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I know what u mean Sepuku, anyway heres my entry. Its not great, but I dont think it turned out too bad for my first ever attempt at a human face. Also its done in Milkshape, so i didnt get any of the fancy hair effects or lighting.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 21:03
Looks good, a subdivision could make it that much nicer and smoother

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It's scary, although that might just be because it has no eyes yet.

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froggie is that the little girl from "The Ring"
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niice

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whoah im back for a moment! ive been gone all week helping my sister move house. I will be posting more later! this will be a fun comp.

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Ok, Just for Mr. Sep I have started on a female for the comp... My head hurts, eyes are sore, and I have to get up in about 4 hrs to start my day but I figured I should atleast post some WIP....

so here it is, your gonna have to wait a bit to see the rest...

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good work Heckno, hopefully I won't have to spend too much time revising for a mock exam tommorow so I can work on my piece tonight, even though I said I forfeit

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Froggie holy sh*t put that thing away, there are children on this forum!

j/k, Its good froggie, just the lips look like the faces are reversed and it looks liek he hasn't had water in about 3 weeks.
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for the lips I would make the upper lip stick out more than the bottom.

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Ok, It's my first time trying to model a face, so here is my WIP (Shudders)

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