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GAME freak99
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Ok....so with the 3D game maker....ya'know how you can put cars on your maps that you make...well, i was wondering if you can get in and our of the cars...like in the GTA series....i have a great idea for a game
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Posted: 11th Mar 2006 22:25
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no you can't, 3D gamemaker lacks in a lot of freedom when it comes to more complicated concepts into games.

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Posted: 11th Mar 2006 23:53
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yah you cant i have 3D gamemaker also and i hardly ever use it becuase of what seppku arts said there is like no freedom but it works kinda good for very basic FPS games.

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Dodic
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 00:35
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Yeap, but you can use Dark Basic to create that sort of game.

Currently working on (trying) making a new 3d engine for/within dark basic classic out of basic 2d commands, with vertex edit supported.
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 01:58
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well....should i not by the 3D game maker?
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 02:05
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if you dont have alot of time to code and you like basic games.

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GAME freak99
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 06:19
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thats the thing....i dont minde codeing that much, but then i sorda want something that is kinda easy and make your own games type program...but the 3D game maker isnt that...right?
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 07:11
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why not try the DBP trial? It's gonna give the ability to do pretty much anything within reason... Outside of reason you might need to DarkSDK
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MartinS
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 08:20
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I've got T3DGM. It isn't all that limited, but you can only have up to 20 levels, and if you like racing games?! NO RACING AI! Still pretty cool though.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 13:13 Edited at: 12th Mar 2006 13:22
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So....what should i do then. should i get the 3DGM or not? it sounds a little to easy. i want something like the 3DGM but a little harder. like makeing you own guns, buildings, cars stuff like that.
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 15:44
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Unfortunantly, these are your options for what you want to do -

DarkBasic - Link : http://www.thegamecreators.com/(duh)
(Probably your best bet. Oh, and don't waste money on classic(unless you can't at all afford the other) like I did, get Pro!)

C++ - Link : N/A(depends on which one you get, ask around)
(alot of hard work. if you do C++, I would get a cheaper software development with it called Genesis3D. It comes with a model rigger, level maker, and more. Unfortunantly, this can cost a couple hundred dollars...)

Game Maker - Link : http://www.gamemaker.nl/
(Is as easy as you want it to be(it can be point-and-click, or hundreds of lines of code!)Is not capable of much 3D, although some have made limited games that are like GTA. There is also a .dll(basically something to add-on to the capabilities of Game Maker) called Ultimate3D which make Game Maker capable of actually importing 3D models and alot of other cool stuff. Also has a great community. But still, I don't know if it can do what you want it to do.)

FlashMX - Link : ?
(I really don't know much about it, except it is kind of like Game Maker, only with the power of Flash. I think it is only capable of 2D and very limited 3D, but I am not sure. I have never used it.)

Well, I hope this helps!

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 16:14
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The gm v6.1 can load 3d models without any dll,just a simple script

And i agree, those are your choises..

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 16:17
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yeah like Okashira said buy dark basic pro because it is pretty powerful and many commercial titles have been created (showing quality it produces).

I bought the 3d gamemaker hoping that it would cut out a lot of the time to create the game I wanted, but after the first day with it I figured it wasn't going to be good enough.

My brother hit the nail on the head when he said
Quote: "It isn't a 3d game maker but more of a 3d game preference selector"


What he meant was you have next to no flexibility with it and you are just selecting the preferences for a game.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 16:30
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yes, thank you Okashira. I'm gunna get the Game Maker and DBp. Thank you every one for helping me desideing on what i should get
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 16:31
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if you want something easy then get gamemaker 6.1 it is only $20 and it is really good for 2D games but it can also do some basic 3D games in it.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 16:35
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ok....but i have on more question lol, can you make online games on gamemaker? or multiplayer?
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 18:29
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You can make mulitplayer games with registred gm 6.1, and eaven on the forums you will find an convertor made by some guy witch CONVERTS GAMES MADE IN GM6.2 TO JAVA witch can then be easily put onto any website, so, yes you can make multiplayer an online games with game maker.



But if you want 3d, i gotta' warn you, it is not as easy and click-and-point as 2d is, you`we gotta' code...

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 21:42 Edited at: 12th Mar 2006 21:42
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Dodic, a fellow Game Maker user I see.

Oh, and let me also point out, Game Maker is free, the $20 is only for registering. But it is good to register for 2 reasons -

1.The most important - It supports the creator, Mark Overmars, so he can create more great versions.

2.Without the registration you can not use .dlls, do multiplayer, do 3d, and many other things.

So, if you get Game Maker, register it if you like it!

-Okashira, or KonkerGames on the GMC

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 22:37
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you know what....you guys make me feel like i'm freekin' stupid lol! alrighty then, lol
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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 00:09
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You aren't stupid! Just challenged! Just joking.

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 00:46
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lol!

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 01:44
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gamemaker is limited. I personally do not like it, i used it from version 4.1 to 5.8 and it was good for 2d, but i made a bunch of 3d mod stuff for it and it just wasnt what it was meant to be used for.

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Okashira
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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 01:48
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Yeah, um. Game Maker has changed alot since 5.8(wait, was there even a 5.8? I have been with it since 5.0, and the last version before 6 was 5.3a!). Since 6.0 it has had built-in Direct3D capabilities. Also, it is not as limited as it once was. Just look up the Game Maker Community to see some examples.

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 01:54
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i like GM becuase of how easy the collision is.

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Quote: "i like GM becuase of how easy the collision is"

hehe yeah... There is a GREAT 3d game made in it, called PARK RACER, but i`m not sure where i downloaded it from, but it is more then perfect example of 3d abillities of GM.


By the way, my name is Dodic on GMC (But i dont post to much, people are too smart for me there..-joke)

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 07:00 Edited at: 13th Mar 2006 07:07
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Um... Dodic, Park Racer used a 3D dll called Active X or something like that...

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Yeap it used something, but it`s still a good example

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 17:39
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yah it shows that GM has the power to use DLL.


i dont use GM anymore DB all the way.

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I downloaded 1.1 on GM for kicks and giggeles lol, and its..well ok..its sorda fun to mess around with lol, i'm makeing a game called Joy Ride and so far its going good. you drive around running people over and stuff like that...theres some lvls that your out of your car, but anyway. i have a stupid question. lol i'm not sure how you make it so that you can move ther car with the arrow keys or mouse! i know it sounds stupid but i dont know how you do that. so, can someone plz tell me how????

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ok im only going to help you once with GM because i dont want to get introuble because this is a DB forum.

you open up your player properties and then in the events section you put in the keypress command then in the actions box you use the movement thing it is the first one you see with the arrows and when you put it in the actions you press the arrow for wich direction you want it to go then set the speed. do that for every arrowkey and set a diffrent direction.

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Yes! ok...that worked, now i need my bad guys to die when you fun them over, how do you do that, and my stupid exit, when you go into the exit, that wont work also.

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GAME freak99, if you really want to get help with Game Maker, I strongly advise you to post on the Game Maker Forums. Why? Firstly, because not that many DarkBASIC Classic/Pro users use Game Maker. And secondly, because mods are sure to come and lock this post.

If I were one, I would certainly do so!

Oh well, thats what I have to say...

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gamefreak i might register to the GM forums to help you a bit what is your name on the forums i will probaly GM guy ok.

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Yeap, and you should download gm 4.3 it is free, and much better then 1.1 ..

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Quote: "Yeap, and you should download gm 4.3 it is free, and much better then 1.1 "


Or how about 6.1? It is also free...

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yep it is, i like sorda messing around with the old stuff but i'll download those, my name on gm is the same as here GAME freak99

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oh ok.

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