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Locrian
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Posted: 23rd Jun 2006 20:09 Edited at: 23rd Jun 2006 21:28
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I've seen in numerous threads about people wanting female entities. I think( if I can generate enough interest to make it worth my time ) I wanna do a pack of say 15 females for FPSC.

They would all be completely different and not like the counter terrorist models in the TGM pack just using different textures for the same model.

A few ideas would be:

* Female Mech( a mech style suit with obviously female curves)
* A trinity style character(perhaps in a long leather coat)
* Sexy nurse
* Dancer styled( ok what I'm really saying is a pg ver of a stripper)
* Female Lab/doctor
* Female Officers( sci fi style cause there wouldn't have been fem in ww)
* Secretary Looking
* Ode to Adam Sandler...the Lunch lady(sloppy joe sold separately)
* female teacher that have went insane( I say this cause why else would one wield an uzi)
* Female hostage
* Sexy Female monsters:Vampire looking
:Succubus looking
* Sexy Sci-fi borg type( like half machine half human )
* Ex wife ( basically a normal woman but why else would ya kill her)

These are a few of the things I've come up with but there may be things people need that I'm not covering. I'd appreciate any thoughts you guys have as I know allot of you don't model and this could benefit us both.....few new entities for you....and a few bucks for me. I'm thinking like $10.00 USD. This would be cheaper then most packs around and maybe I could make up the money in shear volume of packs sold.

Also soon as Codemaster gets his poop all in one bag and gets ready to release his program the entity of Weapon will be available free on his site and I'll announce it when the time comes. My modeling/texturing style can be viewed in the thread
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=81865&b=24

Thanks for all your comments and questions ahead of time..


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Posted: 23rd Jun 2006 20:19
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it seems amazing Locrian i hope you make it. it seems really goodd if you make it-)

im not stupid im just misunderstod
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Locrian, you've already got my interest in this pack just for the vamp and succubus models. I'd say go for it, man! There needs to be more females in games anyway!
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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 00:13
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they actually had female soldiers in Germany, in the last days of the war, in that period even children and women, were soldiers,

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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 00:21
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I'm definately looking forward to this release but...

Quote: "pg ver of a stripper"


can we push it more twords pg-13 scince this is techically a "T" or "12 and up" software?

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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 03:21 Edited at: 24th Jun 2006 03:42
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Well whats pg-13.....basically I was figuring a teddy...garters..heels...maybe some bills stuck in the garters( maybe not so she could double as a street walker)....I mean with a stripper ya cant go real far before it becomes a issue where I'd have to check I.D's. >.<

And no offence but Essal why even say that....you list no proof as to back that up. So are you just saying stuff so you sound informed? Do a google search for "female officers in the Reich" or anything similar and you'll find pages that have the same words on um but nothing referring to women....who, in a time where they were almost as oppressed as minorities. Before you spam my thread with worthless info take a sec...and think "Should I hit Post?" And this isn't a debate...I don't care if there was a few female officers or children. It has little or nothing to do with me modeling any, or what I asked as a response from readers. And probably wrong to boot......


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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 04:12
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Females would be great,They kinda spice up a game, you know?

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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 05:06
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as PG-13 i meant mabey a little smaller, tighter, and a bit low-cut. If you don't want to make anything like that for the public, then e-mail me and we'll work something out...

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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 06:52 Edited at: 24th Jun 2006 06:53
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Quote: "they actually had female soldiers in Germany, in the last days of the war, in that period even children and women, were soldiers,"


Quote: "And no offence but Essal why even say that....you list no proof as to back that up. So are you just saying stuff so you sound informed? Do a google search for "female officers in the Reich" or anything similar and you'll find pages that have the same words on um but nothing referring to women....who, in a time where they were almost as oppressed as minorities. Before you spam my thread with worthless info take a sec...and think "Should I hit Post?" And this isn't a debate...I don't care if there was a few female officers or children. It has little or nothing to do with me modeling any, or what I asked as a response from readers. And probably wrong to boot......"


whats got your temper up? seems like you're biting his head off for just mentioning female soldiers. calm down.

and they had female soldiers in the soviet union during ww2. don't kill me.
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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 09:19 Edited at: 24th Jun 2006 09:50
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@Zaibatsu
Well man what I was thinking was basically like panties and bra or a teddy.....think Victoria Secrets Catalog. I mean even if its cut high on the hip its still decent....I mean it wouldn't be showing anything at all. More just suggestive

@Pitch
Why spam this tread with this nonsense? Are you a know it all as well....Dose it matter? Dose it pertain to the thread? Were you bumped as a child? I don't have to have a temper to say quit spamming the thread with BS. It's more asking for common courtesy .

And further more:
Quote: "It was an unprecedented, however predictable, event for the Soviet Armed Forces of those times. The admittance of female cadets started in September of 1973. The Institute never became a co-ed one though. Female cadets attended classes separately from male cadets,"
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http://milinst.tripod.com/MMI/mmi_history.htm

So...1 minute on googles seems better then both you guys tid bits of wisdom. For one I said nothing about soldiers...it says Officers. So I'd suggest reading better and more closely. Your the same guys that make us have to use installers when we give stuff away huh? You cant 1. follow directions, and 2. use a search engine. If people want a history lesson let um look it up....Post for the thread or don't post at all.


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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 14:19 Edited at: 24th Jun 2006 15:18
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relax, if you want your proof, then watch the german movie "Der untergang" its about the last days in Berlin, and Hitler during the WW2,and its based on witnesses, and hard facts, so dont kill me just for saying that there were female soldiers.
is that proof enough for you?

have you run out of medicine Locrian?

I would say that I was looking forward to your pack, but now I dont because I want nothing to do with a provocative, self centered, moron who takes everything as insult, so just stick this thread up where the sun doesnt shine.
And just to get 1 thing clear, I dont make you guys use installers with my free stuff, I give away only the files you need in a compressed RAR file, so dont complain like a little baby.

And How Dare you say that I cant follow instructions, and that I cant read?
1. I CAN READ, BUT APPARENTLY YOU CANT, I didnt even say that what you said was wrong, I just said that there were female soldiers.

And Mods, if you want to ban me then do it, just note that he started it, by flipping out, because of a simple commment, and that I have given alot to the community, and that I almost always, have been nice to the noobs.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2006 16:56
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Quit....spamming.....my thread....

Quote: "Plot Outline: Traudl Junge (Lara), the final secretary for Adolf Hitler (Ganz), tells of the Nazi dictator's final days in his Berlin bunker at the end of WWII."


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/

I'd already mentioned making a secretary so thanks I will make one...I know secretary and officer are big words and very confussing pumpkin.


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You have to watch the movie, in the movie you see female soldiers and children fighting for Germany. The movie shows just as much of Berlin in the last days, and it also tells about a young boy that is 10 years old, who helps destroy tanks with Panzerfausts, and in the group that he is in are 2 girls. SO maybe you should find a better describtion of the movie, or maybe try to learn some history.
and 1 more thing: You have posted 2 times where you provoke me, and I have posted 2 times before this, wich actually shows that you are spamming your own thread just as much as I am.

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Quote: "How Dare"


um... Essal, wht did you capitalize the "H" and the "D"?



buy anyways lorcian, im looking forward to this release, so please post some screenshots when you start working on it.

and i think a mod should probably clean this thread up a tad... its gotten outa control..

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I do like the idea of a female pack, but not sexy ones, wouldn't be good for the audience I do target, no one would buy the game/project anymore.

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havent you ever played Duke Nukem 3D? I like to kill the strippers!

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hey. locrian.

are you sexist or something? i can't tell what position you're in, you get all at me and essal for mentioning female soldiers and you're gonna make models?

i really can't figure you out, man.
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Posted: 25th Jun 2006 18:21 Edited at: 25th Jun 2006 20:36
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@Everyone

I just got back from up north so soon as I put some things away ill post what I'm working on. Her names Ali...for alimony and will be the normal kinda woman but able to weild the guns. Before I left I had all done on her except the shoes on the texture so ill post some screens.

@Essal
Dude...your quoting a movie as if is its historical precedence.
Quote: " ECJ rules that women should be allowed to join German army

In a judgment given on 11 January 2000, the European Court of Justice ruled that German legislation barring women from employment involving the use of arms in the German army is contrary to the Community principle of equal treatment between men and women, although derogations concerning certain special combat units are possible."

http://www.eiro.eurofound.ie/2000/01/inbrief/eu0001222n.html
Trying to figure out how women would have been fighting in any WW if they were barred till 2000 from weapons use..but thats just me....I kinda like search engines.

@Pitch

My problem is that he came off like a "know it all" like hes trying to correct something I said in my thread. And worse off hes wrong from what little time I've spent on google.

So like I said...."Don't pertain to the thread...don't hit post"
As for being sexist I could care less what women do....it was a comment made based on the ideals of the time..In WW2 we finally let women work in shops wile our boys were at war ala "Rosie the Rivoter". I made a comment reflecting this and I got screwed up history lesson which wasn't needed or even seeded in truth. If you wanna act like a Mr. Know-it-all, don't do it in my threads...specially if your wrong....

@Everyone Side note
Since I'm saying all this anyways and my luggage isn't jumping outta the car let me get a screen shot or 2 for ya of Ali.

Full shot of here...no lighting and no rendering techniques done so she looks dark in areas but looks fine.


Pffft...So ya get your figure back after the divorce?

Edit: by the way shes only 1592 faces


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Eh , thats kinda sick , but whatever .
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Locrain, I'm going to give you the opportunity to take out the third picture of the women "spread out" like that; otherwise the whole post will be deleted.

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@Keith

And what exactly was obsene about that image? It showed a few things...one, that she was covered and nothing showed up under the dress and second, how the cloth reacted in differant positions for the FPSC animations.

And why was the other image taken out and the text telling how the fabric was attached?( remember there were 4 pics..and now 2)

Wheres a link to what can and cannot be shown. I swear there used to be a rules section but I see allot of the stickys gone( even tried looking at some of the DB forums to see a rules set).

@Zaibatsu
Man if they didnt like what ammounts to a swim suit being shown theres no way I'd be able to post pics of something in a teddy or in bra and panties. I may have to make something and only distrubute it on my site. Or maybe I'd be allowed to black out areas, not sure..I need to re read the rules set here as I did'nt find the picks at all offensive(and I'm a conservative republican).....heh...gore can be shown but not lavender panties >.< .........


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I didn't remove any pictures at all. The pose that the 3rd picture took was suggestive; remember there are young ones on these boards.

As far as the "rules" here go; you're right, there doesn't appear to be any pertaining to what can and can't be shown. I will rectify that for the time being.

Though you may not have intended for the position of your character to be "obscene", it appeared that way to me. If you don't like the restrictions placed here, you can always do as you suggested; which is to host it on your own site.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2006 23:16 Edited at: 25th Jun 2006 23:21
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Im just asking. Most kids have seen underware or a bathing suit
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

Quote: "EVERYONE 10+
Titles rated E10+ (Everyone 10 and older) have content that may be suitable for ages 10 and older. Titles in this category may contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal suggestive themes."


Cant see how that image garnered anymore then that. Not like her newnew showed...and someone deleted the other info if you did'nt....a bit of over zealous editing on someones part.

So that means no more gore shown huh? Since thats more then mild violence. Lets not make up rules as we go along...spell it out for people myself included. But if I cant see panties I dont wanna see a disembowled corpse. Lets pick a rating system and kinda stick with it.


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You should see some of the posts that I and others turn down. I agree about the discrepency between gore and "suggestive media"; but that's the world we live in. Swim suits are OK, a shot of a girl/guy up close in the crotch area (while wearing a suit) may not be.

I only took exception with the one picture though, I can't speak for the other people. I've set up some rules in writing now, and I'm sure they will be modified as time goes on. If anything your shot that I needed removed, was removed because it was too realistic; which is actually a compliment to your skills.

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In 2296 there will only be female soldiers... don't bother googling to see if I'm correct as in 2134 google will no longer be available to the general public...
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Quote: "In 2296 there will only be female soldiers... don't bother googling to see if I'm correct as in 2134 google will no longer be available to the general public... "


What are you talking about?

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Quote: "In 2296 there will only be female soldiers... don't bother googling to see if I'm correct as in 2134 google will no longer be available to the general public... "

Quote: "What are you talking about? "


The house wives will murder their husbands of course and start a woman lead dictatorship.


P.S. How someone can get aroused over a low quality CGI model I have no clue... perhaps if it was perfect texture and perfect model then I could understand somewhat

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Actualy, legally, everyone on these forums should be 13 or older.

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hey Mervy, shouldn't your sig say "your sig" not "your mod"?

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nah... it is a redirect of the sig erased by mod... a mod erased my 'My government sucks... join the rebellion' sig so...

Quote: "Your mod has been erased by a signature while erasing your signature."


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No, they don't. No such law exists in Great Britian, where the servers are located. That law does apply to US servers, but as I said, these servers are not in the US.

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Just to let Ya know I'm still working on this.

@Keith: Is warcraft style graphics going to be allowed? say their version of women? Chest plates, not loin cloth but like panties in that style.

Any ways, Depending how I'm going to treat doing this since I have no way to "OK" things before I post um. Obviously the ex-wife is done...the teacher is and I'm currently working on this....the Succubus. So if you have request get um in before I kinda build what my limits going to be for the pack. I imagine the Vampiress is next. Trying to full fill the request as much as possible and one post had asked what I was working on.


I highlighted the sections in red that would be like skin tone. Other sections are armor.


Hard to find any resources for a succubus in the Davinci pose so I pieced together the Daz dragon(wings)/Raptor(feet)/Vic3 body so I could get a reference.

I imagine with doing as many characters as I wanna do for this pack it's release won't be till late summer/early fall.

And thats not the texture for the succubus ya see...I chose a red latex as a material to contrast the backgound.

PS: Mods is there a way you can suggest to the TGC staff to turn on the PM system for this board? I'm betting they didn't write the software for this board and I've yet to see a forum with no personal message system. Not only could we contact you guys without a public display but it may cut down on board bickering as well if people could do it privately. no reason to not have one...1 more table on a MySql db eats up no space at all.....Just a thought, plus like this succubus will be mostly skin so not sure how to show textured versions..


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I'll ask about the PM suggestion, as I agree with you.

Quote: "@Keith: Is warcraft style graphics going to be allowed? say their version of women? Chest plates, not loin cloth but like panties in that style."

I imagine you'll be able to get away with that.

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I've been informed by Rich that there never has been a PM system available for these forums. I thought they did create the software for these forums (Apollo)? Anyways, it looks like you'll have to stick to emails/IM's/Carrier Pigeons for now.

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really? well finally, we have the upper hand over the US(FPSC forum wise)

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Locrian, that is a nice model!

It looks a lot like a female character I'm working on right now, at least the body shape anyway.

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Quote: "No, they don't. No such law exists in Great Britian, where the servers are located. That law does apply to US servers, but as I said, these servers are not in the US."


Ask rich, I am 90% certain that these servers are in texas. (I believe he recently moved them) now allowing a terabyte of bandwith and storage.

Quote: " I'm betting they didn't write the software for this board "

Rich will kill you.

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Succubus sneak peak below.

@Bond1

May I ask what females you plan on making for your pack. I'd rather not step on each others toes, and since you were making your pack first I'll let that guide my choices. I know our stuff would'nt look the same but no sence doubling up. Give the people more choices.

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heh....dies.....but I'd of though a company thats codes game software would have had more bells and whistles....I mean......look at the funtionality and themes for this >.<


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I don't think we'll have a problem. My females will include a clerk, cleaning lady, maid, nurse, girl in a bikini, and a female zombie (or 2).

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Quote: "a terabyte of bandwith and storage"


in total, or every month?

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terabyte monthly or yearly yeah. Ask him... rich@thegamecreators.com

Scary... could use a few more polys around the pelvic and chest areas though.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2006 17:54
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My guess would be monthly.

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