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Aaagreen
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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 13:14 Edited at: 25th Jan 2009 14:22
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The title says it all.

MP5N










More after I get the password off my mum so I can show EAI my order history.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 13:21
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Oh wow...

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 13:28
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Wow!

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 13:29
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I know, awesome isnt it!

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 13:37
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They look beautiful when Sourcifed!

God, I really ish I had a Source game...

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 14:12
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Methinks it's time to screw around with cubemaps and normal maps

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 14:26 Edited at: 25th Jan 2009 15:29
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No offense, but they look compressed(I know they don't have Phong, or normals, or anything lol just Diffuse.)
But did you export the VTF as DXT5? Uncompressed is better for source, cause from the looks of it they look like photoshopped images from FPSC to Source(Getting a picture, cropping the gun, than overlaying it ontop of a image of source.)

(Oh, and you may wanna fix up the origins, there looks incredibly iffy... O.<, move them up by a little bit and more to the center. that way it'll be much, much realistic.)

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Actualy I can remember porting these to CS:S once... Lost the files but I might do it again.


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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 14:37 Edited at: 25th Jan 2009 14:37
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The textures havent been edited at all, they are at their full quality.

I just checked.

Any blurryness is caused by the .jpg's compression.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 14:38
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they look great
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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 14:50
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Next up will probably be the S.A.W

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 15:10
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Quote: "The textures havent been edited at all, they are at their full quality.
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No, I mean that when you save a image as a VTF file in photoshop or VTFedit there's choices you can make, you can set stuff to DXT5, DXT6 w/e, anyway them things can compress the textures.
So they have to be edited, Seeming that source does not accept Jpeg ;D

Anyway, if it's the jpeg quality thats screwing it over, than ask errant if he has seperate textures for rendering(Or work.) and ingame.(If he does than ask for the higher res uncompressed textures, source will be able to handle them better unlike FPSC.)

=]


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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 15:19
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No, the Jpeg image that you're viewing.

None of the textures are compressed. They only look like it because of the .jpg's compression.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 16:23
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Post up a PNG screen or something, PNGs are uncompressed...

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 16:26
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Cant be bothered, that would mean going in-game and effort and moving

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 16:33
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Lazy award 2009 instantly goes to AAAgreen. ;D
Source doesnt take that long to load...(But I got a monster of a rig, so it differs.)


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modest award 2009 instantly goes to Matuka
im guessing its a SLI?

nice source conversion btw

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 17:28
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Cool!

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Posted: 25th Jan 2009 22:40
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Very impressive
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 00:02
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Regardless of how nice Errant's weapons look (as they always have), why is this in here? This has nothing to do with FPSC. They were originally made for FPSC, yeah, I get that, but they're just models and now they're in a different engine making this thread off-topic to the scope of the board.


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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 00:17
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Now now Ply, that's not nice. Aaagreen is simply showing how there is more value than known in FPSC media, because we can port it to a more powerful engine.

I have excuses for everything


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Quiet yourself, think before posting, and maybe you won't be as ignorant as you seem.
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 00:27
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Quote: "PNGs are uncompressed"


Actually, they are compressed, but without the jpg artifacts, so it looks uncompressed.

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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 04:23 Edited at: 26th Jan 2009 04:25
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Some of the MP9/10 maps were shipped with compression to conserve download size. All maps were .dds except for the hands which were .jpeg. It's best to make sure you're using the newer versions of the hand maps that come in the GCS downloads. They are still .jpeg but less compressed and a larger size (1024 vs. 512). Gun .dds textures from GCS are all full 24 or 32bit, btw. I got the email and will send out the fragmotion-friendly .x files later today, after I take care of some other stuff, hopefully.

Anyhow, I hope mods will allow this topic to stay open for a while. There really isn't a more suitable board on Apollo than here (MPs 9/10 are FPSC products, after all). It's fun, if nothing else, to see someone putting FPSC assets into source rather than the usual reverse trend of "how do I rip media from HL2/CSS into FPSC?"
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 07:21
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Quote: "It's fun, if nothing else, to see someone putting FPSC assets into source rather than the usual reverse trend of "how do I rip media from HL2/CSS into FPSC?""


You got a point there.


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Posted: 6th Feb 2009 21:00
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P226





(Apologies for the retarded hands in some places, DirectX isnt the easiest format to get up and running in another engine.

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Posted: 6th Feb 2009 21:02
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Hands look ok IMO, post a vid up, to see the effects in real time...

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Well, there is a strange lump (presumabely a stretched/parched finger) on the right side of the first p226 picture. And the fingers stretch and animate wrongly in the animations, particularly the reloading one. I took the less crappy photos i could.

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Ahh, I see what you mean now...

I wish you all the luck in the world with this, Source is a great engine to play on, but not one to work with, from what I've heard...

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Heh,

It's easy as hell to get the weapons in to Source, just getting the directx models to another format in their native condition is impossible.

As soon as I've got a promising project up and running, EAI says he may give me the original .max files, so I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Quote: "I would suggest to continue with your mod using placeholder until you have enough to show that will convince me you have a serious project in development. At that time I may be inclined to send max files."


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Holy exploding kangaroos (), that's AWESOME! Or should I say, SOURCE-UM! O
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Trying to upload video now..

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He he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu1QbyVW0LI

Ignore Fraps's sound quality.

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Posted: 7th Feb 2009 15:33 Edited at: 7th Feb 2009 15:33
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Triple post

I've now got the world model working (Known to you FPSCers as a VWEAP, also works as pickup)

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Nice one!

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Thank you.

I'm now working on the 870PI Shotgun.

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Double post: I've just finished the 870PI!

Will soon upload video.

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awsome!! source makes eai's weapons look soo much better!
may i ask were did you get source and did you have to pay, and how easy is it ?
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TO get the Source SDK, you need at least one Source game (Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead) for the pc, then you can simply download it free from the tools menu in Steam.

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its not there and i have left 4 dead :/
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Posted: 7th Feb 2009 20:41 Edited at: 7th Feb 2009 20:42
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For PC?

It SHOULD be located in the tools menu, then you have to install it.

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Quote: "its not there and i have left 4 dead :/ "

That's because the SDK for L4D isn't out yet. Nice work. Hopefully someone who knows lua can get it working in GMOD, too.

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Airslide knows LUA, (He made FalloutMod for GMod) but I dont really want it in Gmod anyway. I'm only doing this for my mod.

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The only problem I see with this is that it may be likely that Errant's media is going to start trailing around the Source community. It seems pretty common for people to grab models from a mod, especially for use in GMOD. It's probably less of a problem with a mod, but giving it out as a GMOD addon would for sure be an issue, as it is practically giving Errant's media away for free.

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@Zeldar, that must be why
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'Nuff said.

Sent you an email, Aaa.

EDIT: Sorry if you get two copies of it, my email is playing up.
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Update:

SMG 1 = P90
SMG 2 = M249a

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There are two SMGs in HL2? Awesome, I can't wait to see it...
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SMG 2 will replace the Pulse Rifle, a combine weapon.

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'tis been too long sinse my last update, so

P90


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wow those look amazing in source i see them replasing HL2's weapons!

the shader does them the muh needed justice that they deserve

Bravo

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The only shader in that pic is the water's refraction/reflection shader. There is no lighting, no bump-mapping, no reflection..

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