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filya
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beta request sent DarkFact.

Quote: "keep an honest person honest, an curious person confused and a hacker very busy"

it would be perfect (for most applications) if it can do this.

-- game dev is fun...but taking up too much time --
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REDGA
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yeah its only after you build it it works fine on my computers but others which dont have fpsc installed crash
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Maxi Studio
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Will (the beta) be finished today?
(19.4.07)

Yeah! (Thats the point)
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foxking
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heh - I might be able to crack it

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ANovella
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Dave, I sent an e-mail.

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AaronG
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@ Foxking
Quote: "heh - I might be able to crack it"

No you won't. I got the beta already, and I tried everything on the block. Information is disclosed. I cannot reveal any methods on the forum. And I can almost bet I'm more skilled than you. I've had years of experience, - not much to brag about, though.

Pretty much, theres no way of finding those folders. I couldn't get in the zip.
-AaronG

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AaronG I know more then you and I found a few ways, but information is disclosed. I cannot reveal any methods on the forum.

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DarkFact
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Posted: 20th Apr 2007 05:31 Edited at: 20th Apr 2007 05:31
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There's always going to ways to get around a protection system. Like I've said before, no software company (not even Microsoft) can make their software 100% secure. It's just not possible with a computer.

Our goal here is to make it as secure as possible though and that's why we're in beta. This is only RC1. I hope we have a product within a few weeks that is 99.99% secure for both XP and Vista. I'm now working on security code for Vista.

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AaronG
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Posted: 20th Apr 2007 05:32 Edited at: 20th Apr 2007 05:35
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Haha.
There are a few ways, actually.
Like [mod edit-do not post ways that enable users to crack Darkfact's system.[/mod edit]

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DarkFact
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@ANovella: Did you mail me with your results? If you did, I didn't get it.

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DarkFact
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@AaronG: When you find holes, email them to me. Did you insert the "mod edit" line yourself??

RC2 is on it's way to the testers. Aaron, you're not getting it until you explain youself.

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Sly
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Posted: 20th Apr 2007 10:38
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Darkfact,I sended you an email yesterday,I guess you didnt receive it?

-Sly
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DieRider
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Me, being the average user, couldn't get out of the game while it was running.

i noticed the encrypted game files were zipped?
how did the .exe read the zipped game files?
but in any case they were passworded to keep fingers away from the media

The sad fact is that i can read script, but i just cant write it.
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AaronG
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yeah,
the .zip file is the whole point...
If they weren't in a zip, they would be run in the Temp folder like FPS Pack.

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DarkFact
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@Sly: No, I didn't get one from you. Will you try again please?

@DieRider: The zip key is passed to the file from the exe.

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Sly
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DarkFact,Sended a new one.

-Sly
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DarkFact
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Quote: "DarkFact,Sended a new one."


Didn't get that one either. I sent you an email so you can try replying to it. Let me know if you don't get it.

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Sly
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OK,Sended one.

I think Outlook is messing with me again,so i sended it through a website.

-Sly
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DarkFact
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Still nothing. Try going to www.fpscgames.com and use the Contact form. I'll get that one because it's from me to me.

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Sly
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Done,it seems my email adress is acting up...

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DarkFact
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Okay, reply to my email to you worked. Contact form worked, too. So, use either to contact me now.

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Sly
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OK,but what do i do now?send another email with info you already know?

-Sly
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DarkFact
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Posted: 20th Apr 2007 19:56
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LOL you didn't ask me anything or tell me anything.

So, I assume you want the beta link. Is this why you've been trying to email me?

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Sly
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Well,offcourse.Why else would i email you and notifying you in this topic?

Side note : I though you knew that it was about the beta.My bad

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DarkFact
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Okay, I'll send you the next update.

We're on RC2 now, but only 4 of the 8 testers have downloaded it.

I'm waiting to here back from bggbbsffjjvvs, too.

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Sly
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OK,ill be waiting till that time

-Sly
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foxking
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heh, you may have a FEW years of experience but I have spent almost my entire life infront of a computer and you do not know my age. You just think I'm a 10 year old wannabe hacker dontcha Aaron?

A small resume:
I hacked my old school 4 times (the first time with a pal who showed me a few tricks), current one 2 times and when www.try2hack.nl exsisted I got to level 9 - and that was a couple of years ago.

so give me a shot

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DarkFact
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Let's not get into a contest here. If you guys want to bash it out, please go somewhere else.

Thanks

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foxking
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sure, sorry

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AaronG
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Well...
My friend, and I-hacked our school once,
and we told the teacher it was us, because we were the only kids who could've done it. So, we got in trouble and never did it again.

And on hackthissite.org, I completed all of the challenges, except actually hacking the sites main server. (the 24th challenge.) I get 2 hours of sleep at night, and the rest im pumping artificial, thick, creamy caffienated blood through my heart when I AM actually awake.

But, let's not get get competetive.

-AaronG

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Candle_
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I open my computer one time, that mean much?

My Web site Deveron Murder MysteryGame Mikes Room

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foxking
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I never liked hackedthissite.org - it had too much of a story which was just really annoying - 'security sam has forgotten to secure this so you can hack the site by doing this:'

it just went over the top - in the real world they dont just tell you the security flaws!


My school uses websence and they left the uninstall in a place I managed to get access to - I wont do it since they know I'm the only one who can. It can be quite depressing to be the best at computers at your school by a mile.

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same.
Whenever a teacher had a problem, they'd be like "Please send Aaron G down to the office."

lol.

Hey darkfact,
When IS this coming out? This is a must buy for me.

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I sent you an email detailing my findings, darkfact

The sad fact is that i can read script, but i just cant write it.
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DarkFact
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Update:

Phoenix is now at RC4 and is very close to release as the basic version.



I want to publicly thank all of my beta testers for their hard work!

Cheers, guys.

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The title of the thread says "Beta". I see no link to download the beta. All I see is request for money. Do people have to buy the beta or is this just a private beta?

The person that now knows the most started with many questions. Patients and tolorance are the keys to the passage of knowledge. FPSC is Getting better. Now if we can just keep the ball rolling.
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DarkFact
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Quote: "The title of the thread says "Beta". I see no link to download the beta. All I see is request for money. Do people have to buy the beta or is this just a private beta?"


Read the thread before complaining about it. There has been no money request, only a statement of probable cost and that was only after people asked for that information.

Read the thread before jumping on me, dude.

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incense,
Most people around here just do a closed beta for their apps.
You should know that by now.
The price that was posted is an estimate.
When he is ready to release it he will probably have more definite info on pricing and such.

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filya
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Dave, thanks for the opportunity to beta test Phoenix.

I should say this has turned out to be an excellent media protection software.

Very good (I daresay impenetrable to the better than average user) protection of the media coupled with a very user-friendly system makes this a great software to indie game developers like us.

Thanks for this Dave.

-filya

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I agree with filya
Quote: "
I should say this has turned out to be an excellent media protection software. "

And also thank you for letting me beta the software, I see alot of profit and pontential in this program.


-Anthony

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AaronG
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yeah, same. Of course, I emailed dave, and he never got back to me.

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DarkFact
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@Filya: Thanks, dude. We're almost there!

@Anovella: You're welcome and thanks back. Hey man, I need your email again. It's not in the beta group of my mail client for some reason.

@AaronG: When did you send this email?

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How could a simple question be concidered "Jumping" on you? Dont be offended. It was only meant as a question. Dont read anything into what I post. I post exactly what I mean. There are no hidden meanings. If I ask a question that is all I have done, no more and no less.

The person that now knows the most started with many questions. Patients and tolorance are the keys to the passage of knowledge. FPSC is Getting better. Now if we can just keep the ball rolling.
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DarkFact
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@incense: Sure dude.

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DarkFact
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UPDATE:

Pre-sales data is now being collected. If you plan to purchase the basic version at the EA price of $25, email me with "Phoenix PreSales" in the subject. This is just for me to get an idea of the interest in the product. Sending an email does not obligate you to purchase.

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Any hints as to when this product will become available?

The sad fact is that i can read script, but i just cant write it.
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Quote: "Any hints as to when this product will become available?"


The basic version is available now as an EA offering. Consider it an extended beta. EA licensees will get free updates up to v2.

I'd like to get a list of people interested before I post a payment link.

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As you might have noticed my friend Sly is intrested,yet i dont know where he had gone to.Ill ask him in a minute.

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DarkFact, I sent you an email.

-Anthony

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Found out his little problem,One of his family Died,He just told me on MSN.He sended you an email with that info too.

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