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heltor
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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 06:25 Edited at: 11th Jul 2008 06:30
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Ya too bad that wasn't your complaint huh woolfy. that the only one I agree with.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 06:30 Edited at: 11th Jul 2008 14:03
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Go read my posts again heltory. It's part of it.

Edit:I can tell you came to argue instead of explain why you condone copyright infringement. Also if you can't read why they got locked then there is no hope for you at all.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 06:33
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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 06:37 Edited at: 11th Jul 2008 06:38
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ya you have an impressive list of locked threads yourself. woolfy I wonder why they keep locking them?
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@Punk... We've had a PDF that we've been working on. It'll contain everything that we have on the forums, which is essentially everything that you listed. To prove that we have a pdf... Here is a screen capture.


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heltor
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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 08:43
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Looks nice gunn3r but what are you saying with this. Is it about the moonrising news letter? Is Newsweek a rip off of Time magazine, or just freedom of the press?
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Mainly just the content looks eerily similar. Maybe if you added in a couple of unique things to it (Gunn3r Games does have some free models), it would be better. Not to raise another argument, but it does feel a little too close to copying.

Thanks, Heltor, for the comment on the newsletter. That's just the first half of our first page... Wait until you see the whole thing...


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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 08:52
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Yes' but i never even saw your newsletter we have uniqe things ans suprises that wont be revealed until a week from the release.

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Ok. Just making sure yours isn't the same as ours. No harm done. I understand that you haven't seen the newsletter. Only Coffeegrunt and Valkynaz have. Because one of them is making it and the other helps out.


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heltor
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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 08:57
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I don't want to argue I just think all news letters look the same. Yours look like the TGC news letter to me, how different can you make one, you know what I mean. Thank you anyway
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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 09:00
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Because one of them is making Same here, Moon Rising's very talented AlanC is the lead designer and writer for it.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2008 19:28
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Well, newsletters of this kind can tend to be same-y. It would be a whole different thing if it was a straight layout and contents copy, cause that would be copyright infrigment, since the informer and whole Gunn3r website is fully copyright protected. Anyhow, the newsletters should be equally interesting to which people they're targeted at.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2008 06:05 Edited at: 12th Jul 2008 06:06
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Yeah, I was about to say the models remind me quite a bit of Oblivion... Still, they're very good, especially when some are free.
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Quote: "It's nice to see all the new and creative ways people are using for harasment, I love all the creativity. Good Job everyone."

heltor, making sure a license is understood and obeyed is not harassment.


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Don't worry if something is against a model they put up a fight so I wouldn't think too much if he says its a harassment or not.


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heltor
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I was not referring to your post I want to game, I agreed with your license post.
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Daniel you did a AWESOME Job! on your new models..keep up the good work. Have a Great day.

Cheers,
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Quote: "I was not referring to your post I want to game, I agreed with your license post."
Thanks for clearing that up.


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Leaning Objects To The Side
thank you.

xyzz1233
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its just a news letter, chill, thats why its called a news letter, for the news of that comp. not yours or any one else. moon rising only. so if we do something similar its becouse it's the news. and some news concerning the same subject will be the same all together. thank god my wife is here to edit my spelling.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2008 23:28
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You can say what ever you want about a model, but when you start nit picking over spelling and grammar, then a newsletter, that is harrasment.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2008 23:35 Edited at: 12th Jul 2008 23:49
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Quote: "You can say what ever you want about a model, but when you start nit picking over spelling and grammar, then a newsletter, that is harrasment. "

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Anyways good luck with the new models at Moon Rising. Also you misspelt it on the url.
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Stop using this..
Quote: "THE ULTIMATE FPSC RESOURCE SITE"

Quote: "Join the Revolution"

Also I'm a bit annoyed that you use the "Revolution" in your sig. I joined and got kicked out on the same day. So much for a revolution.


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Posted: 12th Jul 2008 23:56 Edited at: 13th Jul 2008 00:00
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I just make models and mod on the site, as for you being kicked of
I guess the Revolution started with you Deathhead..lol
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The Revolution is alot like the Boston tea party

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Daniel wright 2311
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Deathead your just mad becouse i banned you,dont put us down becouse we banned you, do you put down the game creators when they ban you. you was the main reason i left this fourm in the first place. why did i come back, well i decided i would not let people puch me around for no reason. so we started something good for the comunity, you dont like it for the simple reason we banned you. im sorry for this but thats the way it is. dont get on peoples bad side then people will start to like you then you will be welcome. but entell this happens your not. we dont put up with any critics on our fourms. if someone says well this and that about a modle or someonse work we end it instanly. why, this is the main reason we started moon rising in the first place. we are not here just for fpsc people, we are here for all game makers. soon everything will be in all difrent formats so all game enjens can buy from us. as far as things being misspelt, who in there right mind cares. not everything in life is perfectly spelt and if so thats a politicly correct world i dont want any part of.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2008 03:17
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You ban people because you don't like them.
You ban people because their opinions differ from yours.
You ban people because they criticize.

That's what I like, no, let me rephrase, LOVE about this forum. If you have some constructive critique to hand out, which some people sometimes do, you don't get banned. You might get a noob-slap or temporary ban if you're balancing on or going over the limit to being harsh, but that's all.

So some of us have a tendency and/or reputation to be honest and straight to the point with newcomers and those less experienced. What's the point to being hostile against us? We're not of evil nature, in fact, I'd say at least 70% of us mean well with what we say, even though it can be judged as unfair and harsh.

But I guess the simple requirements that hide beneath our rough nature doesn't appeal to so many anymore. Sorry about the babbling, I've had a few beers.

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And Daniel, I already said on harm done. I didn't harass anyone. If I did, it was unintentional. This is the same scenario with my ban from Moon Rising. After I had posted something on THESE forums and waited a couple of days, you suddenly decide to ban me...


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Quote: "We're not of evil nature, in fact, I'd say at least 70% of us mean well with what we say,"

Thank you. Thats like me.
Quote: "After I had posted something on THESE forums and waited a couple of days, you suddenly decide to ban me..."

As I say Revolution my A**.lol Kidding.


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Daniel wright 2311
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Roger Wilco, we are not that bad,lol, we are not bad at all. we dont put up with people putting others down thats all.


gunn3r, you were invited back and i have no problem whith you comming back

Deathead, as far as a revalution that was just a catch frase

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Posted: 13th Jul 2008 06:29
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No its the Truth


Yes Gunn3r i sent you like 3 emails, we wnet over it. Deathhead i had nothing to do with your banning same with you gunn3r, And as far as being banned for crituqe you dont, Its like this and i can quote you guys on some harsh stuff if you need me too, its like this Okay
this persons texture aint that great

Good answer: Hey you need some work on it, but it might look good when your finished

Bad: Dude that looks terrible you suck.

See the diffrence

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I agree with Gunn3r, Deathead, and Roger Wilco. These forums may not be the friendliest place, but attempting to ensure that no harsh comments are ever made is ridiculous. I wouldn't like to live in a 100% politically correct world. There would be no criticism, not even constuctive criticism, and we'd have a small vocabulary of "politically correct" words. Really, a 100% politically correct world would be a complete lie. Political correctness is good, but in moderation.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and putting someone down, but constructive criticism can be harsher than what Punk13 represents it as. Most clouds don't have a silver lining.
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Yeh, England is going to the dogs right now because the government are more scared about offending people than actually solving real issues like global warming or poverty........

I don't think that it's right that someone be punished for their acts on a different forum, Deathead seems to be a pretty straight-forward guy who cuts out the bull. You'll never get anywhere if everyone compliments your work all the time and never criticises, I mean, look at the Ultimate Zombie thread, even "Bond teh awesome" has recieved some crit......

Personally, I'd say toughen up, read the crit, and take a step back and really look at your work, look from a different perspective. I've had to do it when I design levels, and I know it's a hard thing to pull yourself away from your work and look at it with a neutral eye, but if you don't learn how, you'll never be an artist in any way, shape or form.....

Sometimes, you have to be cruel to be kind......

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Quote: "Bad: Dude that looks terrible you suck."

When have I said "you suck"?
Quote: "Sometimes, you have to be cruel to be kind......"

Just wanted to say I sigged that.

Sometimes, you have to be cruel to be kind......

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Quote: "do you put down the game creators when they ban you."


Has TGC ever BANNED him?

The Simon Cowell of TGC.
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Quote: "Has TGC ever BANNED him?"

Only Temporarily but that was at Christmas time, as I just got off a noob-slap. And I didn't do anything wrong and then got banned for awhile.

Sometimes, you have to be cruel to be kind......

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Lol, I want copyright on that sig Deathead.......

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Ahaha.

Sometimes, you have to be cruel to be kind......

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I have had constructive critisim on these forums and have asked for help from the critic to better my models.

@Roger Wilko You ban people because you don't like them, You ban people because their opinions differ from yours,
You ban people because they criticize. That is simpley untrue. I banned one person, I did not want a flamewar. I mis-interpedted, and was very interested in working it out.

@Gunn3r I talked to you about stuff and you were invited back.

@ Deathead it is just wrong to make someone feel so bad about them selves that they leave the party, then go to there house and expect to be welcomed in with open arms. That is sad you got a noob slap and was then banned for a while when you did nothing wrong, strange but sad.

@ Coffe Grunt I think the whole worl is going through the same thing right now governments are scared about offending people. Instead of handling the real issues the plague our world. I agree one must toughen up, simply to survive in this world.

I believe we are our brothers keeper,a nd should act accordingly, but as the great KeithC says "If you've got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all"
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HOORARR

freedom of speach act put in stupidman terms is,
insluting someone and so they then have the right to insult you thats what freedom is you have the right to say
,screw you, then they can say what they want back
now imagine presisdent brush reading it, it has more effect lol

i got forced to read the longgg version in history must have been 3 pages

note

i mean no disrespect but arent you really just to trying the undercut TGC on there own forum? am sure that theres a rule against this...

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Quote: "but as the great KeithC says "If you've got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all""



ermmm i actually said that, and he made stickys after what i said... just putting that out there.
heres my 2 cents on any offsite forums... dont do it. we have forums here. point simple.

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right, well, in real life face to face, this would start a real fight, not a noob slap or a ban or a hey stop it. ther would be a drop dead drage it out bloody fight, thats the way i was raised. insult me and well thats that. i might be on the pc making games and modles but in the streets im alot difrent. when someone spends alot of time and work on something and some one slaps them for it well this is an insult and then the fight begins. thats why i wont put up with it, why becouse so many people have a difrent opion on the matter. one person might off himeself for the fact that the one time he thought he was worth something ten people shoot down his dreams with an insult. and yes alot of people are this sensitive to matters like this.

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I normally only come of a day becasue am out all night wasted with me mates just house partys really take there toll...

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Quote: "right, well, in real life face to face, this would start a real fight, not a noob slap or a ban or a hey stop it. ther would be a drop dead drage it out bloody fight, thats the way i was raised. insult me and well thats that. i might be on the pc making games and modles but in the streets im alot difrent. when someone spends alot of time and work on something and some one slaps them for it well this is an insult and then the fight begins. thats why i wont put up with it, why becouse so many people have a difrent opion on the matter. one person might off himeself for the fact that the one time he thought he was worth something ten people shoot down his dreams with an insult. and yes alot of people are this sensitive to matters like this."


chill bro. arguing over the internet isnt worth it. people will always flame over the internet just because its easier for them to relieve stress, dont take it personally. its just the internet.

play xbox live for a week and youll know what i mean about relieving stress. people do nothing but talk crap.

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sorry bloodeath 6 6 6 I saw the quote in a sticky my bad. I still like it, as far as off site forums I have found many great models not offered here.
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chill bro. arguing over the internet isnt worth it. people will always flame over the internet just because its easier for them to relieve stress, dont take it personally. its just the internet.

well im just stating a fact, im not upset or yelling so theres no reason for the chill. as far as flaming well not on my site,lol. its all how you controll your fourms.

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@lazerus nothing beats a good house party.
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Quote: "as far as off site forums I have found many great models not offered here."

no doubt im not knocking any offsite communities. im just saying in all honesty, anyone who makes a forum for FPSC is basicially copying tgc. point simple. you have a scripting board, a media board, a game board, a general board... etc. its really not necessary to create your own forums...

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the fourms for moon rising is not for the game creatores, its for all game creator sites, we are still in the progress of ading more content like in all difrent formates like 3ds, .obj,.max so everyone can be a part. we in no way coppied the game creators or even wanted to but its simullar for the fact that we started with there people is all. moon rising is not a off branch we are independent to our selves.

EDIT, pluse if you think about it we help sites like the game creators, why, becouse we advertise for them for free. we bring other game creator people to are site in return they see fpsc and then buy it. and they see the media that the enjine holds.

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@lazerus I'm not trying to undercut anyone.

BTW president Bush is a fool like his father I have fought in both there wars.
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i feel as though im about to be pulled into this arguement



all im saying is why start a new community when we have one here already? thats all im getting at here. its pointless, mostly anyone who joins your forums will be from here....so.......i dont see the logic of making a new forum if everyones already here....it just doesnt make sense.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2008 23:39 Edited at: 13th Jul 2008 23:41
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well, sell something in our store and recieve full profit, buy stuff from are store and be entered in a drawing to win a whole modle pack, little stuff like this, join our fourms make team requestes, dont get flamed or desoreged, i can list a whole lot of reasons.

edit, the bigest reason, well, buisness, i can name 35 people that quit the fourms in the last year becouse the fourms here are verry hatefull.

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